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Old 07-14-2009, 10:04 AM   #18
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I wish they would have given us some kind of time frame about when the cars on hold will be fixed.
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:05 AM   #19
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Yeah agreed! Lets not turn this into a "speculate and guess" or a "Lets bash GM" thread like the last large thread about this issue.

I'm happy GM is responding quickly to the issue.
AGREED! Please don't let your emotions get the best of you when posting.

Let's please all comments respectful and mature. Again, we'll bring you updates as soon as we find out.

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18xxxVIN here. Starting in first gear is not the smoothest in my car. Getting some vibrations at higher speeds but I need to confirm this on different roads due to different surfaces. Hopefully I am being paranoid only! Will watch this thread closely.
14000+ here and i still will drive it like a muscle car thats what it is and it's under warranty right?
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A couple of thoughts --

To those who are 'fed up' with GM and "American Products" --

Every manufacturer has issues such as this.

The issue is a supplier problem and it DOES NOT INVOLVE EVERY 6-speed manual transmission.


Once again I'll say this: there IS a downside to sharing information....and this is a perfect example of it.

We could clam up and perhapsyou'd never know about it...but to the Camaro Team, that would not be the right thing to do.

If you think that BMW and Mercedes and other foreign manufacturers don't have similar issues, you're wrong.

WHAT I RECOMMEND: (....from a PERSONAL viewpoint......)


DO NOT do 6,000 RPMS and then DUMP the clutch.

That's a foolish thing to do....regardless of what you are driving.

I'm not saying you have to 'baby' the car -- but don't go out and 'flog hell outta it!"

Meanwhile - we will have more info. as details develop.
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:06 AM   #21
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I wish they would have given us some kind of time frame about when the cars on hold will be fixed.
My understanding is that they don't quite know what the problem is and what the fix is. Once they get that, they should be able to set up a time frame and will hopefully let everyone know.
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:08 AM   #22
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What about the "VW Sludge" issue for 1.8Turbo vehicles throghout the mid 2000's. I know my B5.5 is in that range, and that VW will no longer cover the issues. Additionally, they have a known issue where Timing Belts break at 60K miles (yet vehicle maint. manual says replace at 100k miles NOT 60k), and any damage caused by the Timing Belt breaking is not covered under Warranty.

I would have NEVER known these issues if I was not part of ClubB5. Be careful what you wish for... if you want info, you come to an enthusiasts website, but you also get an information overload of good and bad.

Trust me, these issues are small in comparison... because at least they are recognizing the issues and rectifying them. Before I broke out the pitch forks and torches, I'd wait until GM refuses to fix it, and gives you the bill for a broken shaft. THATS when you can call GM crap.
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:10 AM   #24
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I would hope that if a recall isn't issued...that warranty repairs for this failure are 'easy' from a paperwork/approval standpoint.
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I wonder if that means if a dealer has lets say 2 allocations 1 manual 1 Auto manual ordered first would that be bumped or just put on hold in same order????
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:13 AM   #26
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Glad GM is doing the right thing and checking and double checking. We know they want to get it right, and we are very glad for that! My car is one of the ones that is built and on hold for this reason and I am going to wait patiently knowing that when I do get it I will have confidence that it was well made, quality assured, and ready for me to drive it like a muscle car should!
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:17 AM   #27
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Thanks to Fbodfather for his post...I for one am very greatful for the free flowing information about problems with the Camaro. Most are simple fixes if you discover you have the problem (nuts on the spoiler, a pillar popping off, etc). Some are much more serious and are being dealt with swiftly. I am happy that GM is stepping up and being pro-active with repairs...and still honoring the warranty if you launch the car and it breaks. I am very pleased with my 2010 Camaro and GM!!!
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:20 AM   #28
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A couple of thoughts --

To those who are 'fed up' with GM and "American Products" --

Every manufacturer has issues such as this.

The issue is a supplier problem and it DOES NOT INVOLVE EVERY 6-speed manual transmission.


Once again I'll say this: there IS a downside to sharing information....and this is a perfect example of it.

We could clam up and perhapsyou'd never know about it...but to the Camaro Team, that would not be the right thing to do.

If you think that BMW and Mercedes and other foreign manufacturers don't have similar issues, you're wrong.

WHAT I RECOMMEND: (....from a PERSONAL viewpoint......)


DO NOT do 6,000 RPMS and then DUMP the clutch.

That's a foolish thing to do....regardless of what you are driving.

I'm not saying you have to 'baby' the car -- but don't go out and 'flog hell outta it!"

Meanwhile - we will have more info. as details develop.
Thank you Scott!
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:22 AM   #29
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I wish they would have given us some kind of time frame about when the cars on hold will be fixed.

VERY QUICKLY...more details to come.

By the way -- "Thor" - built in late December or early January -- has over 12,000 miles on him and is just as great as he was with 50 miles on him.......
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Hopefully this is limited to a certain batch, and VIN range..... I am a little worried to " GET ON IT " with my car, but I guess I'll have to wait for more updates.
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:28 AM   #31
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VERY QUICKLY...more details to come.

By the way -- "Thor" - built in late December or early January -- has over 12,000 miles on him and is just as great as he was with 50 miles on him.......
WOW! That didn't take long!

I guess when you're burning out all the time the mileage racks up quicker eh?



Thanks for the quick communication & updates Scott! With my M6 SS TPW for next week I'm certainly keeping an eye on them & appreciate it!

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Old 07-14-2009, 10:29 AM   #32
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VERY QUICKLY...more details to come.

By the way -- "Thor" - built in late December or early January -- has over 12,000 miles on him and is just as great as he was with 50 miles on him.......
Awesome...what kind of mileage you been averaging?

Scott, as always...THANK YOU. I don't think any one of us can say that enough!
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:31 AM   #34
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I'm glad they're doing this. GM is taking responsibility for their product. If they just wanted to ship crap in high volume this would not be happening. They see a problem, and they are taking steps to correct it. This is 1st class all the way!
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