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Old 07-14-2009, 02:37 PM   #176
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I wonder if that means if a dealer has lets say 2 allocations 1 manual 1 Auto manual ordered first would that be bumped or just put on hold in same order????
Only the M6 car would be delayed the Auto would be shipped as normal.

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I'm fairly certain that there's more than just "a small amount" that are affected. The fact of the matter is that noone knows yet how small or large the affected number is. If GM knew that it was a limited issue that they've already fixed, they wouldn't be halting production and holding cars in QC. I am confident that we will know MUCH more very soon.

GM was off last week. Now that they're all back on the job, they are studying the issue closely and doing a full triage of the situation. Being that my car was built after the ones who have failed (mid 16000s) but still shipped before they decided to put a hold, I am particularly concerned. I hadn't planned on doing any hard launches anytime soon so it's not a big deal right now but hopefully they understand the full picture soon. I will definitely be going a bit easier on it until we know more. There would be nothing more embarrassing than sitting by the side of the road in a brand new, bright orange Camaro waiting for a tow truck. I would MUCH rather drive it to the dealership to have the transmission replaced on my schedule! IF that's what needs to happen. But like I said, noone knows yet and I'm confident that once GM knows, they'll pass it on to us. That's all we can ask for!
You are fairly certain that this is your opinion right?

And production hasn't stopped. There is a difference between Halted production and continuing production followed by QC inspections and repairs.

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so what happens with us 7/13 TPWS with SS M6???

Do we still get built or not??
Every car will continue to be built, then proceed to QC if it is a V8 M6 and then if found to have a faulty tranny it will be repaired and eventually shipped.

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Alright everybody I just got a call from my dealer!!!

What he told me came from a GM employee who called the plant in Oshawa

and he said the only problem is with the short throw shifter!!!

Nothing is wrong with the regular Manual shifter!!!

So I hope Mods read this!!

He wasnt lying it came straight from the plant!!!!!

So there is no problem with the M6!!

The only constraint there is, is on the Short Throw Shifter!!


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Well all I know is there Is nothing wrong with the regular M6 in the SS a GM tech at my dealer called the plant himself and they said nothing was wrong with it!!
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My dealer didnt tell me this a GM tech told me and he called the plant himself and they said nothing is wrong with it!!
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RJT, you are referring to an OLD issue. the Hurst short throw shifter has been on constraints for a long while and you can't even order them anymore.

The new issue is with the transmission's output shaft breaking off. The shifter is not the same as the output shaft. The shiftter is at the top of the tranny, you shift gears with it. The output shaft transfers the power to the driveshaft>diffrential>axles>wheels. When the shaft breaks, your engine still runs, your tranny still shifts, but the car ain't moving!

Have you not read GM's official statement in the HomePage?
Just because someone at the plant says something, it doesn't mean it is EVERYTHING he knows.
Agreed.

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I did not order the short throw shifter to thats not the issue
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Sorry, Fbod, my car has been in QC since 6/25. That is much more than a day or two.
Off topic, there are plenty of other threads to discuss the R6P process/problems


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So after it gets built we go to QC?? is that correct??
Yes sir.

Stay on topic please. You don't have to like the cause of this round of QC and you can blame GM if you'd like.

The bottom line is every post in this thread will be respectful in it's criticism and its praise of GM and other C5 members.

If your standards are so high that you can't fathom a mistake of this magnitude by a company as large as GM then you will most likely continue to be frustrated. Please don't expect the rest of us to share in your frustration.

Thanks everyone!

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Old 07-14-2009, 02:39 PM   #177
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I had the tranny replaced in my 2007 Camry with less than 1500 miles on it. Go read the Toyota forum about all the V6 tranny problems when it came out. Many folks had their tranny replaced in this model.

This is not unique to GM. When you rely on third party vendors, things just happen.
and the Acura 99-03 TL-S MANY trans (manumatic) issues and breakdowns
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Every car will continue to be built, then proceed to QC if it is a V8 M6 and then if found to have a faulty tranny it will be repaired and eventually shipped.

So If it has a good tranny its free to go??
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Old 07-14-2009, 02:45 PM   #179
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release hold!

I just found out this morning that my SS was put on hold till the the first or second week of Aug. Great!!!! Just in time for Winter.
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Old 07-14-2009, 02:48 PM   #180
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I just found out this morning that my SS was put on hold till the the first or second week of Aug. Great!!!! Just in time for Winter.
and who told you this??
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....well, look at the bright side..maybe if the transmission needs to be replaced GM will throw in the Hurst short throw shifter...
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Old 07-14-2009, 02:49 PM   #182
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Some thoughts:

Go to a drag-strip and watch some people in their cars--

I saw a guy do a burnout (by accident I'd hope...) in REVERSE!

Launch control can maximize times in many cases.

HOWEVER -- you CAN turn the launch control off.....and when you do, some will hit the rev limiter and then just "dump" the clutch.....


......and THEN there are the 'burn-out' contests....(esp. from those who don't know what they're doing...)

.........and then there are the performance mods that have been done --


........so all I'm saying is this: Don't dump the clutch -- it's not a good thing to do no matter what you drive.......
great point to all Scott. Any car that gets driven hard all the time will go bust.
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Old 07-14-2009, 02:50 PM   #183
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So If it has a good tranny its free to go??
You got it!
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Old 07-14-2009, 02:52 PM   #184
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After wasting so much time replying to a post that got my blood boiling, I'll edit my response to reflect GTAHVIT's
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Old 07-14-2009, 02:53 PM   #185
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i had 19.6 from first tank,17.7 from this tank of gas and almost empty,so i need tird tank of gas and i dont have 600 miles on it yet...(the milage i specify is from tel/tel)....19 mpg from a 19 gal. tank should get around 360 miles a tank which means i should have nearly 1100 miles on car...and i have only somewhat gotten on it about 3 times,im still breaking in....have not even thought about trying launch control til about 1500 miles...maybe my problem is that i live only 1.5 miles from work...oh and i do know how to drive a manual ,if that is what you may be thinking,..at lunch i had 697 miles on her and the tel/tel says i have 42 miles til empty
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So we're supposed to hear something tomorrow then about the VIN range or a possible recall?
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sorry thats 597 miles that i have on it, i was thinking about the fact that it does'nt have 600 miles yet and needs third tank,
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So we're supposed to hear something tomorrow then about the VIN range or a possible recall?
I'm not exactly sure about that... I think we will soon learn approximately how many cars are affected, then we'll start to track those affected cars. Otherwise all unaffected V8 M6 cars will be delivered after a short delay in QC...

At least that is how I understand it.

Hylton? that's right isn't it?
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You got it!

Thanks!!!

I just needed a little help thats all!!

But dont we all!!
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Awww but I liked it! You can still laugh at my joke.
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1500 miles here.................20mpg average per the computer and we've never reset it.......

also...........the poor Hennessey folks and others pulling 600hp outta these gotta be bent..........no warranty there from GM!

if these won't hold 426hp stock, 600hp is outta the question.
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Awww but I liked it! You can still laugh at my joke.
SHEET! I waited too long, LOL!

I DID like you're joke though - for the record
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Production with out the v8 manual

Does anyone know how the other camaro models will be effected production wise. Will they make more v6's and v8's autos or will the plant loose speed in trying to asses the problem on the line?
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well unfortunately i had to read all the crap in these passed 8 pages to see the FEW good post worth reading...bottom line is my car is in QC till further notice because of the V8 M6 problem...i really could care less about who is to blame, shit happens...i just hope my car get to mean b4 august...all i wanted was to have my car to enjoy before winter rolls around...its funny how i was all excited that my car got built and shipped b4 the break for me to prolly now watch cars built after the break get built with a good transmission and make it home b4 mine...guess the jokes on me
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GM didn't state that production was on hold...just shipping
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According to the update provided at 2:30 PM EDT, production will not be effected. M6 SS Camaros will still be produced. They will be put on QC hold thereafter. This means that production of other models will also not be effected.
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1500 miles here.................20mpg average per the computer and we've never reset it.......

also...........the poor Hennessey folks and others pulling 600hp outta these gotta be bent..........no warranty there from GM!

if these won't hold 426hp stock, 600hp is outta the question.
Ooo... Good point. Well - we still have to find out IF there's a real problem.
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Does anyone know how the other camaro models will be effected production wise. Will they make more v6's and v8's autos or will the plant loose speed in trying to asses the problem on the line?
I'm going to move this into the existing thread.

But here's the answer to your question.

None of the cars will stop being built. All V8 and V6 with M6 or A6 trannys will continue to be built at the same rate they are now. After production all V8 M6 cars will go to QC hold to be inspected. If a car is found to have a defective transmission it will be repaired and shipped as soon as possible. So none of the other trims should be affected.

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According to the update provided at 2:30 PM EDT, production will not be effected. M6 SS Camaros will still be produced. They will be put on QC hold thereafter. This means that production of other models will also not be effected.

What he said!!!

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I'm going to move this into the existing thread.

But here's the answer to your question.

None of the cars will stop being built. All V8 and V6 with M6 or A6 trannys will continue to be built at the same rate they are now. After production all V8 M6 cars will go to QC hold to be inspected. If a car is found to have a defective transmission it will be repaired and shipped as soon as possible. So none of the other trims should be affected.

thanks for the quick answer
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