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Old 10-16-2013, 09:08 AM   #1
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03 cobra how much hp??

ok i know this is an open ended question with a lot of variables. but i was out driving to the movies when i came up on 5 terminators out for a cruise. we were all at red light on a 3 lane road with no other cars around...question is this. what would one of these put out with bolt ons and normal upgrade stuff but with the stock eaton...lets say a tune, pulley down, exhaust etc. ? just curious
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:26 AM   #2
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Anywhere from 420-470rwhp with a stock unported blower..just intake/exhaust/pulled is the norm.

Theirs a lot of variables though which is why I said 420-470.
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Old 10-16-2013, 01:49 PM   #4
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Cool. Thanks For The Replies. Good To Know
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So what happened at the light......lol just curious
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:03 PM   #6
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they are slow , everyone one ive raced had way more hp then me and i walked them. dont know why but its seems to happen that way. ive ran a bunch too.

ive seen 2 kb ones pushing 625+ on both run low 11's like 11.4 was there best to date if i remember.
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:26 PM   #7
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they are slow , everyone one ive raced had way more hp then me and i walked them. dont know why but its seems to happen that way. ive ran a bunch too.

ive seen 2 kb ones pushing 625+ on both run low 11's like 11.4 was there best to date if i remember.
I wouldn't consider them slow. They are far from the easiest cars to drive and I blame the drivers.

After learning manual, I ran 12.9 @ 113 on street tires in a bone stock 03 Cobra Road Race suspension working against me after about 2 months of driving.

My roommate went 11.3 @ 121 in his 455 RWHP Pullied/Non-Ported 03 Cobra and a few years later took his 04 Cobra he just bought and went 11.4 @ 122 with the same mods and same exact HP.

Really depends on the driver. I've run guys in my Pullied Cobra making 600+ RWHP that should have walked all over me but were seeing my tail lights.

A well driven KB Cobra with some bolt-ons and supporting mods is a solid high 10 Second car.
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:31 PM   #8
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So what happened at the light......lol just curious
hypothetically i would have walked away from him while his 4 termi buddies (none of which were stock) looked on...and that wouldve been with me (not a small dude) and my gf (small but big boobies ) in my car...at least based on the replies here lol.
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:35 PM   #9
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I wouldn't consider them slow. They are far from the easiest cars to drive and I blame the drivers.

After learning manual, I ran 12.9 @ 113 on street tires in a bone stock 03 Cobra Road Race suspension working against me after about 2 months of driving.

My roommate went 11.3 @ 121 in his 455 RWHP Pullied/Non-Ported 03 Cobra and a few years later took his 04 Cobra he just bought and went 11.4 @ 122 with the same mods and same exact HP.

Really depends on the driver. I've run guys in my Pullied Cobra making 600+ RWHP that should have walked all over me but were seeing my tail lights.

A well driven KB Cobra with some bolt-ons and supporting mods is a solid high 10 Second car.
nope cant agree there. it will take a cobra making more rwhp by a good chuck to pull a ls car. always has always will. they guys that im talkin about have cars that run in the 8's 9's and 10's . all stick cars so i think they car shift a gear or two. ive seen it to many times . even from a roll . my car n/a is door to door with cobras makin close to 100 more rwhp then mine from a roll. but u cant tell ford ppl that. but just go to just about any video and watch a ls car with less rwhp almost everytime pulls a cobra . unless its a huge amount of difference. now the 5.0 is a diff story they pull good everywhere
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:44 PM   #10
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With a good driver though bone stock can 0-60 in 4.4 or so
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:48 PM   #11
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With owning both, given the 5th gen camaro and cobra have equal horsepower the cobra will always pull.
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nope cant agree there. it will take a cobra making more rwhp by a good chuck to pull a ls car. always has always will. they guys that im talkin about have cars that run in the 8's 9's and 10's . all stick cars so i think they car shift a gear or two. ive seen it to many times . even from a roll . my car n/a is door to door with cobras makin close to 100 more rwhp then mine from a roll. but u cant tell ford ppl that. but just go to just about any video and watch a ls car with less rwhp almost everytime pulls a cobra . unless its a huge amount of difference. now the 5.0 is a diff story they pull good everywhere
Hmmm. You mention ford guys but display strong fanboyism yourself.

What is your n/a setup? What does your car run? This is news to me after owning a cobra and having been in hundreds of races. You make seem like cobras are slow but then mention the 5.0 pulls better. Yet, in my experience the cobra.and 5.0 are driver's races so that voids.your point.

By your logic, it will take a a 500 RWHP cobra to beat a stock 5TH gen SS. Do you agree with that? So you are saying it takes 600+ RWHP for a cobra to run 11's?

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i ran 11s in my cobra with 460whp on stock wheels with drag radials.
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U can put DR's on any car and cut a large chunk off the time just putting that out there.

Termi's are nasty little beasts though. I still prefer my old SLP 35th SS though.

Realistically anything within 1-2s of time is a drivers race.
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:49 PM   #15
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U can put DR's on any car and cut a large chunk off the time just putting that out there.

Termi's are nasty little beasts though. I still prefer my old SLP 35th SS though.

Realistically anything within 1-2s of time is a drivers race.
Two seconds in the 1/4 mile is a huge margin. Even one second is an ass-kicking. The term drivers race doesn't mean if one driver has a stroke the other driver will win, that's just basic common sense. It means the cars are so close in performance that a slight advantage in driver ability to one car will result in that car winning. A two second difference in the 1/4 mile is nowhere near a drivers race, it's a slaughter.
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Two seconds in the 1/4 mile is a huge margin. Even one second is an ass-kicking. The term drivers race doesn't mean if one driver has a stroke the other driver will win, that's just basic common sense. It means the cars are so close in performance that a slight advantage in driver ability to one car will result in that car winning. A two second difference in the 1/4 mile is nowhere near a drivers race, it's a slaughter.
The launch alone can make up 1s almost. Yes I know what the words driver, and race mean
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The launch alone can make up 1s almost. Yes I know what the words driver, and race mean
A whole second in the launch means one driver seriously screwed up. Your 1LE and a Scion FRS are generally about 2 seconds off in the 1/4 mile. Drivers race?
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i ran 11s in my cobra with 460whp on stock wheels with drag radials.
haha, im running low 11.s on a street tire at 461rwhp.

this is a slip from last weekend. on a street tire. mid 11's . not in the best air. ya they are the few that run good. but for the most part they dont. go to ls1tech and watch a few of my videos .
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So your still slower? And you had a lot better 60ft and i bet your da was still better then mine.
Cobra > camaro.
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yep where ur proof? or u talkin out ur ass
da was about 2000. car has a ton left in it. that was just the first pass after a 2.5 hour drive straight to the staging lanes. took it easy on the car just to get a pass in and see what its gonna do. then a damn dodge 4 door long bed diesel truck broke and wrecked and they were like 2 hours workin no getting it off the track . couldnt make no more passes. if ur cobra so bad why get a slow 5th gen? lol
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:24 AM   #21
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I've seen some of the videos dekan has posted on ls1tech SRK section. Can't post them here, but his car N/A is fast as shit.
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they are slow , everyone one ive raced had way more hp then me and i walked them. dont know why but its seems to happen that way. ive ran a bunch too.

ive seen 2 kb ones pushing 625+ on both run low 11's like 11.4 was there best to date if i remember.
Slow? You just have not ran into the right person driving one stock, mildly moded, or heavily modded. Those cars are no joke and have tones of potential.
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not say slow it just takes them more to get there. u can make anything fast. but for what they are and what they have they are just about on par with a zl1. ive raced alot of cobras. i do alot of racing with the kentucky street outlawz and wv street outlawz. they have diff rules more towards street cars . but i go to one of there races almost everyweekend. and alway race a few guys at least once a week if not 2 nights a week. trust me ive raced a few. my brother in law owns 2 fairly quick ones but they are not a 5.0 or a ls car .

ur typical 450 rwhp cobra runs 12's at least in my part of the world it does. come visit kyhorsepower.com. just go thur and look at some of the videos of cobras getting yanked. by 380 rwhp vettes and cobras making 500's . there not even close. a bunch of camaro yanking them aswell. ya every now and then they are a good running cobra but its usally a big hp car.

done talkin about it tho. ive ran it too many times to know. have i been beat by a cobra of coarse. but mod for mod those cars will never compair i dont think.

one of my friend that use to own a badass cobra . just look thur some of his videos. hes made it his mission to race 5.0 and slowbras in the last few months..
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his old vette was 380 rwhp auto i think . his vette he has now had for a month or so. put down 420 on one dyno and 433 on another. racing a bunch of 500+ 600+ cobras. u tell me.
all from rolls too. a roll show just pure power pretty much.
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ok i know this is an open ended question with a lot of variables. but i was out driving to the movies when i came up on 5 terminators out for a cruise. we were all at red light on a 3 lane road with no other cars around...question is this. what would one of these put out with bolt ons and normal upgrade stuff but with the stock eaton...lets say a tune, pulley down, exhaust etc. ? just curious
My 04 had a pulley, tune, and CAI and put down 455hp / 454 tq on a dynojet. Very strong pulling car. Also to chime in on the stock Cobra vs the 5.0, I found my Cobra to be faster stock vs stock.
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