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Old 10-16-2013, 09:25 PM   #1
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Kooks Headers Vs SLP Headers?

Okay im on the verge of buying some headers real soon like tomorrow soon and would like to know which one of these two headers would be the ideal choice to go with and why? If i get the TSP (not SLP I had to correct) it will be new and online, but if i get the Kooks it will be used from a member on here im planning on buying it from and leave close to me for a real good price. Thanks for the help in advance

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Old 10-16-2013, 09:28 PM   #2
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:36 PM   #3
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+1 for kooks! Assuming they are in great shape. Proof is in the results. Hundreds of cars here run them, and not too many slp
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I bought my KOOKS used. Had them ceramic coated for $200 and they were perfect. I would go with the KOOKS since they'll probably be cheaper.

BTW: nothing wrong with 1 3/4" but I'm pretty sure SLP only sells 1 3/4". I'm guessing the used KOOKS are 1 7/8" since 95% of people buy them in that size.
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:50 PM   #5
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:51 PM   #6
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I bought my KOOKS used. Had them ceramic coated for $200 and they were perfect. I would go with the KOOKS since they'll probably be cheaper.

BTW: nothing wrong with 1 3/4" but I'm pretty sure SLP only sells 1 3/4". I'm guessing the used KOOKS are 1 7/8" since 95% of people buy them in that size.
SLP has 2" headers which is the ones i am looking at also and the kooks are
1 7/8" but i just found out the kooks are not going to come with the mid pipes or Hi Flow Cats so i will have to purchase that separate for another $280 dollars
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:54 PM   #7
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any one have any numbers or what the SLP or Kooks Headers put out once installed and Dyno?
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:59 PM   #8
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SLP does not make 2" headers, they only sell 1 3/4"

In terms of comparing Kooks, and SLP, SLP is more mid range, and Kooks is top of the line.

Here are some differences-
  • Kooks come in 1 3/4", 1 7/8", 2" and stepped. SLP only comes in 1 3/4"
  • Kooks is 304 Aircraft grade stainless (will not rust). SLP is 409 stainless, which can rust, but will not rust through. To prevent this, they coat them from the factory.
  • Kooks has merge spikes, and merge collectors which add power. SLP does not.
  • Kooks has hand CNC ported exhaust ports for a perfectly smooth transition into the header. SLP does not.
  • Kooks uses a one piece mid pipe, and ball and socket collector. No clamps in the whole system except the factory catback clamp. Not the same with SLP.
  • Lastly, if you price shop, you will find the price is not all that different.
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:02 PM   #9
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SLP does not make 2" headers, they only sell 1 3/4"

In terms of comparing Kooks, and SLP, SLP is more mid range, and Kooks is top of the line.

Here are some differences-
  • Kooks come in 1 3/4", 1 7/8", 2" and stepped. SLP only comes in 1 3/4"
  • Kooks is 304 Aircraft grade stainless (will not rust). SLP is 409 stainless, which can rust, but will not rust through. To prevent this, they coat them from the factory.
  • Kooks has merge spikes, and merge collectors which add power. SLP does not.
  • Kooks has hand CNC ported exhaust ports for a perfectly smooth transition into the header. SLP does not.
  • Kooks uses a one piece mid pipe, and ball and socket collector. No clamps in the whole system except the factory catback clamp. Not the same with SLP.
  • Lastly, if you price shop, you will find the price is not all that different.
Well im on SLP web site right now looking at the 2" inch headers not sure if im tripping but i do think they make 2 inch headers. Here is the link

http://texas-speed.com/p-4012-texas-...ro-ss-62l.aspx
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That is a link to Texas Speed, not SLP. Texas Speed sells 2" headers, which are their own house brand not SLP.

Unless this is some monster I would run 1 7/8" best compromise for cars to give low and TQ and high end HP.
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:04 PM   #11
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That is a link to Texas Speed, not SLP. Texas Speed sells their own headers, which are completely different.
Damn lol i ment TSP Headers lol thats what i get for looking around all the web sites. My apologies
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:30 PM   #12
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:41 PM   #13
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I have SLP and love them. They are holding up great. My brother has Kooks on his 2011 Camaro and they rattle and look like sh*t already. He just ordered SLP headers and can't wait to get the Kooks off. He called Kooks direct and all they told him is sometimes you get bad ones. I wouldn't but anything from these a$$holes..
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:42 PM   #14
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I remember reading here on Camaro5 that essentially all 1 7/8" headers perform the same (within the last couple of weeks no less). After that it's just who wants to spend more for the show aspect. If you're like me and never pop the hood unless you're changing the oil, you're just as well off with a set of Stainless Works or Stainless Power headers for almost half the price of Kooks...
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+1 for stainless power you won't find a better header for the price its got everything you need from ss304 to the merge spikes.
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Old 10-16-2013, 11:55 PM   #17
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if your looking for Bang for the Buck... TSP or Stainless Power great build quality and great fitment. I just put a set(TSP) on a friends 2010 and will be running 1 7/8 Catless with their 3" exhaust on my 1LE.
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Also keep in mind, Kooks recently came out with value packs which lowered the price about $100-$150 a set.
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Old 10-17-2013, 05:53 AM   #19
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Okay im on the verge of buying some headers real soon like tomorrow soon and would like to know which one of these two headers would be the ideal choice to go with and why? If i get the TSP (not SLP I had to correct) it will be new and online, but if i get the Kooks it will be used from a member on here im planning on buying it from and leave close to me for a real good price. Thanks for the help in advance
I don't know about the SLP Headers, but the Kooks header fit perfect and I had them installed on the car in less that 4 hours using a floor jack. I went with the 1 7/8. I would highly recommend Maryland Speed if you have not already made a purchace. They have had the best price I have seen and I believe they were offereing free coating.



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Old 10-17-2013, 05:59 AM   #20
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I have SLP and love them. They are holding up great. My brother has Kooks on his 2011 Camaro and they rattle and look like sh*t already. He just ordered SLP headers and can't wait to get the Kooks off. He called Kooks direct and all they told him is sometimes you get bad ones. I wouldn't but anything from these a$$holes..
That's funny you say they look like crap. Were your brothers coated? If their not... they all tend to look pretty bad after a while. From what I remember when shopping around and comparing the SLP vs the Kooks, Kooks actually use a higher grade of stainless steel too. Maybe they were a bad batch. Mine fit love a glove with no rattles at all. I'm not anti SLP in any way. The rest of my system is SLP and had I not gone with the KOOKS I would have went with the SLP.
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Okay im on the verge of buying some headers real soon like tomorrow soon and would like to know which one of these two headers would be the ideal choice to go with and why? If i get the TSP (not SLP I had to correct) it will be new and online, but if i get the Kooks it will be used from a member on here im planning on buying it from and leave close to me for a real good price. Thanks for the help in advance
There is no comparison between the two. Kooks is a far superior set of headers. Like others have mentioned, Stainless Power would be another great option for something new in the same price range as TSP. They are a really nice set of headers for the money.
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Talk the person with the KOOKS down on the price since there aren't any connection pipes.
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Both are good products and will most likely perform the same, last longer than your car......and quite possibly you too! Most all your common brand names will perform and last the same.
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I have SLP and love them. They are holding up great. My brother has Kooks on his 2011 Camaro and they rattle and look like sh*t already. He just ordered SLP headers and can't wait to get the Kooks off. He called Kooks direct and all they told him is sometimes you get bad ones. I wouldn't but anything from these a$$holes..
I can't believe someone told him that. That would get a rep fired at Kooks.

Rattling is an adjustment issue at install. Someone needs to go back and try a little harder on the install unless there is an unfixable contact issue. If so, Kooks would replace that.

In terms of appearance, SLP's are 409 stainless, which is lower quality and will develop surface rust. Because of that, they ceramic coat them from the factory.

Kooks are 304 aircraft grade stainless. They will NOT rust, so they do not ceramic coat them to prevent rust. 304 stainless does bronze over time. I am guessing the bronzing is why you think they look bad?
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I don't know about the SLP Headers, but the Kooks header fit perfect and I had them installed on the car in less that 4 hours using a floor jack. I went with the 1 7/8. I would highly recommend Maryland Speed if you have not already made a purchace. They have had the best price I have seen and I believe they were offereing free coating.



which coating is that on your headers?

I will most likely go with Kooks stepped headers, no cats and there full exaust
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