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Old 10-20-2013, 01:03 AM   #26
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Hell ya, take him on his bet. Theres only one true way to find out an outcome. I think it would awesome if you won. I just know "for the most part" Supras are nothing to f-with. Theres only one way to shut someone up, accept the challenge!
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Old 10-20-2013, 01:24 AM   #27
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A shop here in houston SeriousHP Built a nice 1600HP Supra, and it looked good, that i give props, but when some high school kid maybe college comes talking constant smack about camaros, with a raggedy supra i mean sheesh . I am not a racer But meh maybe one of these days i decide to take him to the track.
If he'd go to the track,...show him up. And when you do, just quietly walk away and smirk back at him.
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Old 10-20-2013, 01:27 AM   #28
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A stock ss will lose to a 430 hp single turbo supra from a roll. That was through a 61mm turbo. 2jzs make power easily haha.
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Old 10-20-2013, 01:54 AM   #29
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Old 10-20-2013, 04:19 AM   #30
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I was stationed in Japan for 2 years and drove a 95 Supra. Awesome car. Wasnt turboed and it still had some power.
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Old 10-20-2013, 04:50 AM   #31
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I had a 93 supra turbo. They should be feared. People who don't usually never had one or raced one. With basic performance upgrades, intake, hardpipe kit, down pipe, exhaust and a boost controller I made 410whp on only 18psi. 430hp is easy for a supra even on the stock twins. I've learned not to mess with them in general especially if you're stock.
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Old 10-20-2013, 05:30 AM   #32
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A shop here in houston SeriousHP Built a nice 1600HP Supra, and it looked good, that i give props, but when some high school kid maybe college comes talking constant smack about camaros, with a raggedy supra i mean sheesh . I am not a racer But meh maybe one of these days i decide to take him to the track.
If his cars really 430whp you can kiss your ss goodbye if he has traction.
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Old 10-20-2013, 06:27 AM   #33
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All i see is a 50 / 50 , 50 of you agree on the tayota, the rest trust in the 1LE / ZL1....

I am not a racer , but just down talking to the camaro name constantly just starts grinding in the nerves.. Thats my only issue, i mean you see the Rustang vs Camaro Vs Challanger threads all the time...

it's just the way you came across, throwing around terms like "ricer" and stuff. not everything that came out of japan is rice. the supra, 240, NsX, GTR, MR2.............all great cars. the camaro (though a great car) certainly isn't the be-all end-all of cars; and definitely not the fastest thing on four wheels. just try to have some respect.

anyhow, race him and see what happens. there certainly wouldn't, or at least shouldn't, be any shame in loosing to him. and if you win, don't act like a putz when you do. it's still a nice car even if it's not as fast as yours.
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Old 10-20-2013, 07:14 AM   #34
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The fact that you think a single turbo is rice and you that can "badly" beat one in a stock 1LE made me Lol.
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Old 10-20-2013, 07:33 AM   #35
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Toyota Supra 0 to 60 mph and Quarter Mile Times
1983 Toyota Supra 0-60 mph 8.8 Quarter mile 16.6
1984 Toyota Supra 0-60 mph 8.5 Quarter mile 16.5
1986 Toyota Supra 0-60 mph 6.9 Quarter mile 15.2
1988 Toyota Supra 0-60 mph 7.8 Quarter mile16.0
1989 Toyota Supra Turbo 0-60 mph 6.5 Quarter mile 15.0
1991 Toyota Supra Turbo 0-60 mph 7.0 Quarter mile 15.4
1993 Toyota Supra Turbo 0-60 mph 4.5 Quarter mile 12.9
1994 Toyota Supra 0-60 mph 6.8 Quarter mile 15.0
1994 Toyota Supra Turbo 0-60 mph 5.2 Quarter mile 13.5
1995 Toyota Supra Turbo 0-60 mph 5.0 Quarter mile 13.3
1997 Toyota Supra Turbo 0-60 mph 5.0 Quarter mile 13.4

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While supra being lighter and turbo helps it achieve a more respectable time the regular supra is a dog. If you want to race naturally aspirated engines against turbo with a weight advantage too you should be getting what as a prize or offset to his advantage? He obviously thinks his new turbo is the shizzit, well good for him even if he is driving a dog he has of course picked up speed....the only stock setup on this list is the 1993 that matches our speed being a turbo. If he bought a stock set up off a used car or a new aftermarket or what year his supra is what mods he has made you do not know. So yes it would probably be a drivers race, as you have more weight a lack of turbo forced induction. If you were to dump the considerable $10,000 into doing a turbo it would make smoking power in the 700-800 range and you could laugh him off as you would be in the tens or lower. And yes it is all about getting the power to the ground. So if he has not upgraded to handle the power he could line up and scatter the trans and rear from repeated abuse. Or he could eat your lunch if you do not shift right and he has upgraded the turbo to blow the engine more than a stock boost, ( could also blow the engine too lol). Upgrading should always be a complete package, but many never worry as they figure yah take it easy and the axles should live the trans should live long......... Not always the case, and it can end up being expensive. And if you had a turbo you would want to upgrade your axles, and the trans clutches eventually along with some other suspension work and tuning or just be a tire shredding nightmare going nowhere fast. P.s. being a raggedy turd the chances he has had it on a dyno........zero to zero.
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Be careful wit those supras. I learned the hard way lol. Sure they look like buckets but are fast
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Old 10-20-2013, 12:25 PM   #37
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If his cars really 430whp you can kiss your ss goodbye if he has traction.
I am on the edge of purchasing a Zl1.... and camming it along with intake my kooks headers and offroad mids.. and tuning down in houston. Along with a oil catch can, as a starter on my zl1.
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Old 10-20-2013, 12:26 PM   #38
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The fact that you think a single turbo is rice and you that can "badly" beat one in a stock 1LE made me Lol.

Where anywhere in this post does it say "I will beat one bone stock?" Lol at that. Please find this for me.
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Old 10-20-2013, 12:43 PM   #39
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How easily can a Camaro 1LE or Zl1 Smoke a silly Supra 3.0 Single Turbo..
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Where anywhere in this post does it say "I will beat one bone stock?" Lol at that. Please find this for me.
You wrote it, my fault for thinking you could read it.

Soo now you need to be modded to beat a silly rice supra. Hows them dancing shoes? Lmao
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it's just the way you came across, throwing around terms like "ricer" and stuff. not everything that came out of japan is rice. the supra, 240, NsX, GTR, MR2.............all great cars. the camaro (though a great car) certainly isn't the be-all end-all of cars; and definitely not the fastest thing on four wheels. just try to have some respect.
Exactly. Japan made awesome cars in the 90s. The fact that a car like the supra can still smoke modern cars with simple bolt ons and turning up the boost says a lot about the car itself. The maybe dated but when done right it's still sharp looking imo.
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You wrote it, my fault for thinking you could read it.

Soo now you need to be modded to beat a silly rice supra. Hows them dancing shoes? Lmao

You still fail to post where i said "I am going to beat it" Lmao
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You still fail to post where i said "I am going to beat it" Lmao
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Idk about you guys but I personally like the looks of the later supras. Very nice cars!!
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if he is truly single turbo and engine is in decent shape, then you will have some trouble. Really depends what turbo he has on there, 430 is low for a single setup. It will prob take down a 1LE in a straight line, but I think it will be close with a ZL1 as they are several hundred pounds lighter.
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I know lol i just like being entertained..
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I wouldn't take these cars lightly...they are fast. I use to race them with my twin turbo z's back in the 90's...alot of 10 sec cars


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If it is a 93+ supra and it's single turbo, then it is probably very fast and he may be underrating the power it is making. The only way he isn't underestimating it is if it was a non-turbo that he bolted a turbo onto. The twin-turbo 93+ supras make 400rwhp with bolt ons no problem and with a single turbo swap they usually easily break 500rwhp. An old neighbor of mine had a single turbo 95 supra on a stock engine that made just under 800rwhp and absolutely murdered my z06 from any speed. Supras are and always will be dangerous highway hunters. Pick 10 4th gen turbo supras at random and half of them will trap over 130mph. Which body style is it OP?

Some of you are coming off as very misinformed and arrogant.
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It's a stock displacement block single turbo
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He won't answer me on what year it is. I believe 95
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It's a stock displacement block single turbo
Was it twin turbo stock or not turbo at all? I guess if he's not telling you the year then you won't get that info out of him. There's no such thing as a stock single turbo Supra from 93+. If it was a non-turbo converted to single turbo those numbers sound about right. If it was a stock twin-turbo converted to single, he is probably low balling. Like I said, stock twins with basic upgrades will make around 400rwhp. Most single turbo converted cars make at least 500rwhp+. Those blocks are super stout from the factory.
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