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Old 10-20-2013, 07:23 PM   #26
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That is just weird .

Do you have a theory?
No it really doesn't make sense at all. I just cringe thinking what made it into the engine before I had the CC though.
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Old 10-20-2013, 07:29 PM   #27
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I get about half full on each tank of fuel. Car runs great! I don't worry about it much as some motors are just I bit different than others.

I have heard of others with the same situation. Just glad I put the Catch Can on keeping this out of my intake. obviously works. 2010 motor has 10k
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Old 10-20-2013, 09:30 PM   #28
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Valley cover could be leaking. See this thread.

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Old 10-20-2013, 10:43 PM   #29
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Valley cover could be leaking. See this thread.

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Good thread right there..^^^
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Old 10-20-2013, 11:52 PM   #30
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Valley cover could be leaking. See this thread.

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Very good read, thank you!

Just read the whole thing.

Hmmmm, leaking valley cover eh? First question that comes to mind, in light of the fact that thread began circa 2010, is that one would think the updated design of those covers would already be in a 2013 model like mine? Unless I misunderstood?

In reference to those TSB's, I shall take off my spark plugs and observe for any oil contamination. I'll pull off my throttle body for good measure, and stuff a white rag in the intake manifold, and see what's going on in there as well.

Thank you again for that read!
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:44 AM   #31
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If you are getting that much after only 1k miles somethings wrong somewhere.

I empty mine every oil change (about every 6-7k miles) and I don't even have 1/4 of that much in mine.
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Old 10-21-2013, 07:46 AM   #32
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Actually it's 1553 miles .

When I first bought my car with 25km on the clock, I remember that during the first couple hundred miles, perhaps a bit more, I wasn't even able to make the tires spin even just a bit, on a fresh paved slick surface in 2nd gear. I mean, power was nowhere near 400hp. I'm sure blow by was ridiculous during that stage.

Power around the 500 mile mark really suddenly began to pick up, I had to be careful now with the rear end with traction/stability on off. This wasn't the case before, not even close.

What I'm driving at (pardon the pun) is, having carefully read the threads on the leaking valley covers, I don't seem to be collecting as much as some of the other guys, but then again, I'm collecting way more than some of you in the "tablespoon" category of oil collection.

I wonder now, in my case anyways, a) what proportion of that oil in the can is still a result of blow by from a brand new engine that hasn't had its rings seated properly yet, b) how much of that oil is a result of a leaking valley cover, c) theoretical speaking, there is one guy on this forum who is the hardest driver, could that be me? Lolll...

Just thinking out loud.
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Old 10-21-2013, 07:56 AM   #33
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I read quickly through that thread last night. I'm sure I missed stuff.

In my opinion if you have your problem I would go to the dealer with the knowledge of a possible leaking valley cover and the pictures of your full catch can. When the mechanic starts messing with your car politely ask to watch so you can learn/figure out WTF is going on. My reasoning is that you want them to see how bad it is instead of "destroying some of the evidence" trying to investigate it yourself.
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:54 PM   #34
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I do not have a catch can yet. But if my car spit out that much oil that quickly,
I would do a leak down test.
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Old 11-13-2013, 08:28 PM   #35
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More out of curiosity, I would like those with catch cans on now, on brand new cars, to report how much oil is being collected under hard driving .
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Old 11-14-2013, 10:05 AM   #36
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Are you still driving around in this weather!?
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Old 11-14-2013, 10:23 AM   #37
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After driving across country in my 1LE (about 2600 miles), I had no more than an inch of oil, and probably less, in my catch can. So I'd say that's abnormal. However, have you talked to Elite? It seems like they'd be the people to talk to over the dealer initially.

The other thing that concerns me is the lack of power you mentioned. Compared to my experience, that I'd say is abnormal. While my car has definitely gotten stronger and louder upon the engine breaking in, I certainly could spin the tires if I needed to early on. It's always had good power.

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Old 11-14-2013, 11:37 AM   #38
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I did not check mine while on a x country trip (3000mi). When I got home the can was full. I do drive "spiritedly". Car runs strong and now has 7800mi. I check it and drain every few weeks......and get a few ounces each time. It does not drop on the stick as much as I would think.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:04 PM   #39
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Are you still driving around in this weather!?
No of course not, as I indirectly mentioned a few posts ago.
If I was still driving it, I'd have more data and observations collected, and therefore clearer idea of what's really going on.

Thankfully, we have warmer climates elsewhere where brand new Camaro owners reside in , and hoping they will continue to chime in.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:06 PM   #40
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After driving across country in my 1LE (about 2600 miles), I had no more than an inch of oil, and probably less, in my catch can. So I'd say that's abnormal. However, have you talked to Elite? It seems like they'd be the people to talk to over the dealer initially.

The other thing that concerns me is the lack of power you mentioned. Compared to my experience, that I'd say is abnormal. While my car has definitely gotten stronger and louder upon the engine breaking in, I certainly could spin the tires if I needed to early on. It's always had good power.
Well here is the thing, 2nd gear will spin briefly spin the tires on a cool evening, but this wasn't the case when the car had only 20 miles on the odometer. I think that this is normal....
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:10 PM   #41
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I did not check mine while on a x country trip (3000mi). When I got home the can was full. I do drive "spiritedly". Car runs strong and now has 7800mi. I check it and drain every few weeks......and get a few ounces each time. It does not drop on the stick as much as I would think.
Your description mirrors what I basically observed last month.


Can't wait for spring and bring closure to this saga.


I'm also debating right now as we speak, if I should just go ahead and replace the valley cover and its gasket myself, for good measure....I mean, the car is sitting away for the next 6 months, so for the price of a coffee a day(cost of valley cover), it couldn't hurt?

Alas, can't find a DIY writeup (yet) on valley cover replacement.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:11 PM   #42
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Well, the catch can issue definitely seems to be happening to several other people. I wonder why no one from Elite has chimed in on this discussion yet. I'd be interested to hear what they have to say.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:22 PM   #43
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dumped about 1.5oz after about 1700 miles... sometimes spirited driving... Rx CC.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:24 PM   #44
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dumped about 1.5oz after about 1700 miles... sometimes spirited driving... Rx CC.
What is your total odometer reading?


I'd love to hear from people with a catch can and hardly any miles on the odometer as well!
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:54 PM   #45
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What is your total odometer reading?


I'd love to hear from people with a catch can and hardly any miles on the odometer as well!

Installed it around 200miles on car... just changed oil before putting away for winter at 1900 on car.
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:09 PM   #46
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Here is what I catch every 1000 miles - about 1.5 oz. (I know draining it every 1000 miles is a little anal). I put the catch can on at 12500 miles and now have 26500 miles. The first 6000 miles it was more like 2 - 2.5 oz. when I used Mobil 1. Now I use RP HPS and I'm catching a little less. I do my share of spirited driving. I've always thought I have more blow-by than most. But now I see the OP's amount and say "wow, that's a lot". I agree that a dealer visit makes sense. FWIIW I have a Mike Norris catch can.
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:18 PM   #47
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I put mine on after about 2-4k miles, and its NEVER had that much. And Ive only emptied it three times in 28k miles. I have the RX catch can

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Old 11-15-2013, 12:04 PM   #48
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When I take my car out again, i will do 500 miles regular type of driving meaning no wot, and then compare again.

No joke, the vast majority of my driving and what my Elite catch can has seen thus far, has been overtly spirited type of driving .

For sure, somebody who drives 80% highway and cruising, versus an other who is 80% city with plenty of stop and go and WOT will have two very different quantities in the can.
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:40 PM   #49
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I just checked my elite can and had 4 1/2oz (looked about the same as the OP) over about 1400 miles, 2200 miles total. I changed the factory oil at 200 miles for regular non-synthetic oil to help seat the rings and then to M1 at 800 miles. During the 600 miles with reg oil I only had a couple teaspoons of oil in the can. No steady cruising during any of this but a mix of freeway, stop and go and fast back roads. Most of that between 2500 and 4500 rpms with short bursts to 6K rpms. At only 2200 miles I am not too concerned yet but I will check at 500 mile intervals to keep an eye on it. I am sure glad I added the catch can as I would hate for that to end up in the intake gumming things up.
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Old 11-16-2013, 10:00 AM   #50
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I'm taking my intake manifold off as part of another project next week......so I think I'll replace the valley cover while I'm in there. I'll post the findings and results.
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