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Old 10-29-2013, 04:52 PM   #18
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First off, 80HP is a bit short...most gains I'm seeing are at least 100 - 120rwhp gain, so you should figure 120 - 150 crank HP gained.

Second...I just don't see cams + tune getting done for $1,200. I hope I'm wrong, but early on (and likely forever since cams won't be a big seller) I'm betting 1,500 to 2,000.

But anways, lets say you get 40rwhp with cams for 2,000. A SC install will typically run you around 5,500 to 6,000, but lets just say 6,000. Three times 40HP is 120HP. Three times 2,000 is 6,000.

So in reality, the ratio of cost looks like it could be the same for cams.


That's a good write up. That along with hopefully 3.91 rear gears, and I'll throw some serious power to the ground...
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Old 10-29-2013, 04:52 PM   #19
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Mine was under $6K installed.

'Cause I did it myself.

And I even had to pay sales tax.

Never measured it, but I'll bet I'm right about 400 rwhp, whereas I was probably 265-ish stock...

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Old 10-29-2013, 04:54 PM   #20
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Mine was under $6K installed.

'Cause I did it myself.

And I even had to pay sales tax.

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That was before they upped the price
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Old 10-29-2013, 04:56 PM   #21
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That was before they upped the price
Jus' sayin'. And I walked in and took it home with me. Plus Jesse cut me a break because I live in AZ and had to pay tax on it.

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Old 10-29-2013, 05:55 PM   #22
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Jus' sayin'. And I walked in and took it home with me. Plus Jesse cut me a break because I live in AZ and had to pay tax on it.

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Is a supercharger a complex and complicated instal?
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:57 PM   #23
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Is a supercharger a complex and complicated instal?
I did mine by myself, in my driveway, in two days. By trade I'm a wholesale floor covering territory manager. I've never been a mechanic. Make your own determination from that.

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Old 10-29-2013, 07:55 PM   #24
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An installed system is no way 6000. The system itself without install isn't even 6000. It's 6095 before you factor in shipping. Shipping the system will probably be a good 75-100 dollars. Then you still have to pay for install. Which is about 10 hours labor if I'm not mistaken. So that's an extra 1000 in just labor. Which brings you price up to about 7125 for 100 hp like you guys said.
I'm just going off of what I know, and what I know is the price the kit was. I don't know what the new price is...although it seems like I've come across a few sales and group buys they have had so I'm betting one could be had for around 6,000 or so.

No I wasn't factoring labor installation costs...I forgot about that probably because I'd be doing the labor myself or with the help of my brother who is a GM mechanic.
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:06 PM   #25
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or with the help of my brother who is a GM mechanic.
I couldn't work with my brother. He's an airline pilot/former fighter pilot/aeronautical engineer and would drive me absolutely up the wall with his anal retentiveness. I'll take him first choice as a pilot, though.

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Old 10-29-2013, 09:12 PM   #26
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I couldn't work with my brother. He's an airline pilot/former fighter pilot/aeronautical engineer and would drive me absolutely up the wall with his anal retentiveness. I'll take him first choice as a pilot, though.

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Well no one in my family or that I am around is mechanically minded other than my future father-in-law. That's where many of my tools come from, but my degree I'm striving for is a physics degree with a minor in mechanical engineering so I don't know why he and myself couldn't get it done. Did the company send you instructions or what?
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Oh yeah, Mon. Complete instructions on a zip drive. Except they're for an LLT, for the most part.

That's why you'd want my number, 'cause I care like that.

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Oh yeah, Mon. Complete instructions on a zip drive. Except they're for an LLT, for the most part.

That's why you'd want my number, 'cause I care like that.

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When/If I get this and the hopes are looking up. I will definately be contacting you. Although, I am heavily considering a gear swap to 3.45 atleast if not 3.91 with a ss rear diff before I do this, because I have the puny little 2.92 gears in my 2ls. Thoughts?
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I'd like to go 3.91, but I don't know how well that would match up with your auto, so, sorry, I'm not much help here.

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I'd like to go 3.91, but I don't know how well that would match up with your auto, so, sorry, I'm not much help here.

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After I get ss rear diff, axle, and rear portion of the driveshaft it should be the same as you having on your car aside from the clutch and all of the parts it encompasses correct? Or am I thinking incorrectly? I'm just curious as to what you mean by "matching up"?
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It depends on the individual gear ratios of the six speeds spitting out rotations from the transmission, of which I am not familiar. It all works together to make the overall total ratio.

And you also need the SS wheel hubs as I understand it.

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Old 10-29-2013, 10:48 PM   #32
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It depends on the individual gear ratios of the six speeds spitting out rotations from the transmission, of which I am not familiar. It all works together to make the overall total ratio.

And you also need the SS wheel hubs as I understand it.

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Yes I will. It makes me very upset that the 2LS will not accept the 3.55 gears. As according to people on this forum. Because of the carrier. If this wasn't the case I would just get these gears.
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I decided to do a little research on the carrier issue. They are indeed listed as 2 different carriers

The 3.27 (LT) carrier GM p/n 92230616 list price $221.30
The 2.92 (2LS) carrier GM p/n 22759584 list price $590.00

If you wanted to just add the 3.55 gears to your car, just buy the LT carrier, it fit will your car. GM parts direct lists the LT carrier for $129. I could probably get it from my dealer parts dept for $160 something. Then you can buy my brand new set of 3.55's on the classifieds. Cheaper than an SS rear end swap.
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:32 PM   #34
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I decided to do a little research on the carrier issue. They are indeed listed as 2 different carriers

The 3.27 (LT) carrier GM p/n 92230616 list price $221.30
The 2.92 (2LS) carrier GM p/n 22759584 list price $590.00

If you wanted to just ad the 3.55 gears to your car, just but the LT carrier, it fit your car. GM parts direct lists the LT carrier for $129. I could probably get it from my dealer parts dept for $160 something. Then you can buy my brand new set of 3.55's on the classifieds. Cheaper than an SS rear end swap.
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Any special tools needed for gear swap? I wouldn't imagine so? Relatively easy self instal of the carrier and new gears?
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