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Old 10-29-2013, 09:12 PM   #26
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I couldn't work with my brother. He's an airline pilot/former fighter pilot/aeronautical engineer and would drive me absolutely up the wall with his anal retentiveness. I'll take him first choice as a pilot, though.

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Well no one in my family or that I am around is mechanically minded other than my future father-in-law. That's where many of my tools come from, but my degree I'm striving for is a physics degree with a minor in mechanical engineering so I don't know why he and myself couldn't get it done. Did the company send you instructions or what?
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Oh yeah, Mon. Complete instructions on a zip drive. Except they're for an LLT, for the most part.

That's why you'd want my number, 'cause I care like that.

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Old 10-29-2013, 09:38 PM   #28
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Oh yeah, Mon. Complete instructions on a zip drive. Except they're for an LLT, for the most part.

That's why you'd want my number, 'cause I care like that.

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When/If I get this and the hopes are looking up. I will definately be contacting you. Although, I am heavily considering a gear swap to 3.45 atleast if not 3.91 with a ss rear diff before I do this, because I have the puny little 2.92 gears in my 2ls. Thoughts?
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I'd like to go 3.91, but I don't know how well that would match up with your auto, so, sorry, I'm not much help here.

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Old 10-29-2013, 10:24 PM   #30
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I'd like to go 3.91, but I don't know how well that would match up with your auto, so, sorry, I'm not much help here.

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After I get ss rear diff, axle, and rear portion of the driveshaft it should be the same as you having on your car aside from the clutch and all of the parts it encompasses correct? Or am I thinking incorrectly? I'm just curious as to what you mean by "matching up"?
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It depends on the individual gear ratios of the six speeds spitting out rotations from the transmission, of which I am not familiar. It all works together to make the overall total ratio.

And you also need the SS wheel hubs as I understand it.

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Old 10-29-2013, 10:48 PM   #32
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It depends on the individual gear ratios of the six speeds spitting out rotations from the transmission, of which I am not familiar. It all works together to make the overall total ratio.

And you also need the SS wheel hubs as I understand it.

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Yes I will. It makes me very upset that the 2LS will not accept the 3.55 gears. As according to people on this forum. Because of the carrier. If this wasn't the case I would just get these gears.
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I decided to do a little research on the carrier issue. They are indeed listed as 2 different carriers

The 3.27 (LT) carrier GM p/n 92230616 list price $221.30
The 2.92 (2LS) carrier GM p/n 22759584 list price $590.00

If you wanted to just add the 3.55 gears to your car, just buy the LT carrier, it fit will your car. GM parts direct lists the LT carrier for $129. I could probably get it from my dealer parts dept for $160 something. Then you can buy my brand new set of 3.55's on the classifieds. Cheaper than an SS rear end swap.
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I decided to do a little research on the carrier issue. They are indeed listed as 2 different carriers

The 3.27 (LT) carrier GM p/n 92230616 list price $221.30
The 2.92 (2LS) carrier GM p/n 22759584 list price $590.00

If you wanted to just ad the 3.55 gears to your car, just but the LT carrier, it fit your car. GM parts direct lists the LT carrier for $129. I could probably get it from my dealer parts dept for $160 something. Then you can buy my brand new set of 3.55's on the classifieds. Cheaper than an SS rear end swap.
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Any special tools needed for gear swap? I wouldn't imagine so? Relatively easy self instal of the carrier and new gears?
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Any special tools needed for gear swap? I wouldn't imagine so? Relatively easy self instal of the carrier and new gears?


If you don't have, or no one you know has any experience with properly setting up gears, this IS NOT a DIY task... At the bare minimum you would need a press, feeler gauge(s) may or may not be useful, a (or multiple) dial indicators, and a torque wrench. A gear swap is not for the faint of heart.

Honestly your best bet would be to remove the whole center section of your rear end, which can easily be done with normal hand tools, take it, the gears, and the carrier to a local shop that can properly set them up so they last. Taking them in the center section will minimize your labor cost to get it done, rather than taking them the whole car and letting them pull it out.

Call around and get some quotes on what it costs to put some new gears in a rear end. It may be hard to find places that do it as it's a rare practice anymore and the art seems to be dwindling, I can only find one place in my town that will still do it.
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Old 10-30-2013, 12:16 AM   #36
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If you don't have, or no one you know has any experience with properly setting up gears, this IS NOT a DIY task... At the bare minimum you would need a press, feeler gauge(s) may or may not be useful, a (or multiple) dial indicators, and a torque wrench. A gear swap is not for the faint of heart.

Honestly your best bet would be to remove the whole center section of your rear end, which can easily be done with normal hand tools, take it, the gears, and the carrier to a local shop that can properly set them up so they last. Taking them in the center section will minimize your labor cost to get it done, rather than taking them the whole car and letting them pull it out.

Call around and get some quotes on what it costs to put some new gears in a rear end. It may be hard to find places that do it as it's a rare practice anymore and the art seems to be dwindling, I can only find one place in my town that will still do it.



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On the plus side, an SS rear end swap should be able to be done with normal tools...
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Backlash and preload need to be set and the gear mesh checked with a dye marker like Prussian blue. Simple, right?

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Old 10-30-2013, 05:32 PM   #39
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Backlash and preload need to be set and the gear mesh checked with a dye marker like Prussian blue. Simple, right?

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Sound like it! Haha
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fyi, i did the gears with the ss 3.45's....super mod......did not have to change anything about my driveshaft....2012 2l2..and my Mace cams are on the way....Just got an email from the nice folks at mace.....I am assured this should be around 40+ hp at the wheels depending on tuning and mods.....that plus a hundred shot sounds pretty damn fine. here is a short video of it now...full bolt ons.

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Old 11-26-2013, 10:22 AM   #41
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fyi, i did the gears with the ss 3.45's....super mod......did not have to change anything about my driveshaft....2012 2l2..and my Mace cams are on the way....Just got an email from the nice folks at mace.....I am assured this should be around 40+ hp at the wheels depending on tuning and mods.....that plus a hundred shot sounds pretty damn fine. here is a short video of it now...full bolt ons.

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Whenever you get those cams installed you have to put a video up of the exhaust!
Also, have you gotten a quote as to how much they are gonna be to put in?
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I decided to do a little research on the carrier issue. They are indeed listed as 2 different carriers

The 3.27 (LT) carrier GM p/n 92230616 list price $221.30
The 2.92 (2LS) carrier GM p/n 22759584 list price $590.00

If you wanted to just add the 3.55 gears to your car, just buy the LT carrier, it fit will your car. GM parts direct lists the LT carrier for $129. I could probably get it from my dealer parts dept for $160 something. Then you can buy my brand new set of 3.55's on the classifieds. Cheaper than an SS rear end swap.
I have added this information to the 2LS sticky.

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There is only one company that is currently offering camS for the LFX engine, MACE Engineering in Australia. You have to replace 4 cams, not just one, it is relatively expensive. You will need a tune. Your PT warranty will most likely be void.
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that your warranty will only be voided if a specific aftermarket part was a direct reason for the failure, and has to be proven that that part was the cause?
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Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that your warranty will only be voided if a specific aftermarket part was a direct reason for the failure, and has to be proven that that part was the cause?
It's all a gray area, it really depends on what your dealer can, or is willing to try and get away with. A tune will almost always result in a void power train warranty if something goes wrong with your engine.
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How much can you upgrade the engine and rear before you need a new a more capable transmission?

Side question what transmission? Tremecs from the SS or something else?
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Whenever you get those cams installed you have to put a video up of the exhaust!
Also, have you gotten a quote as to how much they are gonna be to put in?
N0 quote yet....still trying to sort out the tune...Once I figure out who is going to tune it I will have the cams installed. Also, adding a fti 3200 stall in the mix to better match the cams...Will probably have it done first or at the same time as cams...Hopefully before.
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Ok, update. I talked to my mechanics today and they looked up the cam install. his system quotes 12.7 hours labor for the install...He will have the quote tomorrow. I had been waiting to install these, but I can't. LOL. I love my toys. B & M Supercooler will be installed tomorrow!
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How much can you upgrade the engine and rear before you need a new a more capable transmission?

Side question what transmission? Tremecs from the SS or something else?
I don't know of anybody that has swapped out the AY6 for a Tremec. Sounds like it would get pretty expensive for custom work to adapt the Tremec to a V6. Maybe you would get better information in the Drivetrain forum.
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How much can you upgrade the engine and rear before you need a new a more capable transmission?

Side question what transmission? Tremecs from the SS or something else?
I believe the GretchenGotGrowl car is somewhere around 650 hp before the stock 6L50e gave up the ghost?

As for what trans? I think it would cost a lot of money to go with anything except what was designed for it... However the 6L50 and 6L45 share a lot of common parts, I believe both are even available in some BMW cars, so surely there are some stronger aftermarket parts available to beef up the trans your car came with to make it last.
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I believe the GretchenGotGrowl car is somewhere around 650 hp before the stock 6L50e gave up the ghost?

As for what trans? I think it would cost a lot of money to go with anything except what was designed for it... However the 6L50 and 6L45 share a lot of common parts, I believe both are even available in some BMW cars, so surely there are some stronger aftermarket parts available to beef up the trans your car came with to make it last.
yea these are medium duty transmissions, and pretty durable for what they are. I will never have to worry about building the transmission in my car with the power level I am aiming for. Especially, since I will not be running drag radials and it is a v6. Does the new cts vsport twin turbo have a 6l50? I know it's running 420hp from the factory. I think I was looking at this the other day,,,wonder if you could tune some more performance from this.

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