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Old 12-08-2013, 07:46 AM   #101
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How much did it cost you? I would love to pick one of these up but here in Houston they are 65 to 70K ...so "better resale" isn't going to apply...
Price is determined by model, 1LT, 2LT, or 3LT, and then w/or w/o the Z51 pkg. So for example the 1LT starts at $51,995 up to the top model 3LT w/Z51 pkg starting at $62,800. The Z51 pkg adds $2,800 to the price, and gets you everything you'll need to track/race the car. Next year I'll bet that price goes up. Plus all kinds of options you can add. Go to chevy's "build your own vehicle" and you can play around w/colors/interiors/options. If I go w/Red interior I'll get the 3LT, but if I go w/Brownstone or Kalahari interior I'll go with the 2LT because of the way it covers the entire dash, don't really care for the look. For example; I put together this one w/Kalahari interior, 2LT w/Z51 pkg and another $4,210 in options, so the grand total is $69,365.
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Old 12-08-2013, 07:51 AM   #102
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Oops, posted the wrong interior, this is the 2LT w/Kalahari interior
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Old 12-08-2013, 05:02 PM   #103
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I got the 2LT just for the simple fact for the 3 extra options and the extra cost, the 3LT wasn't worth it in my opinion.

Sticker on my car was just over $67k. My dealership is giving me preferred pricing so I'm getting it for just over $60k. I'll post proof once I get the car and final paperwork.

They give preferred pricing, even though GM doesn't allow it, on Corvette and ZL1 just to sell them.

GM gives dealerships bonuses for the number of cars they sell and Corvette and ZL1 aren't sold in high numbers so there's not any worry about losing money.

The Stinger stripe is just the hood stripe. Was NOT a fan of the dual stripes.
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Old 12-08-2013, 05:56 PM   #104
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I got the 2LT just for the simple fact for the 3 extra options and the extra cost, the 3LT wasn't worth it in my opinion.

Sticker on my car was just over $67k. My dealership is giving me preferred pricing so I'm getting it for just over $60k. I'll post proof once I get the car and final paperwork.

They give preferred pricing, even though GM doesn't allow it, on Corvette and ZL1 just to sell them.

GM gives dealerships bonuses for the number of cars they sell and Corvette and ZL1 aren't sold in high numbers so there's not any worry about losing money.

The Stinger stripe is just the hood stripe. Was NOT a fan of the dual stripes.
Excellent deal, you did very well, best deal I've heard of yet. The non Z51s in this area are marked down $2,000 but no deals on the Z51s. Again, congrats!


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Old 12-08-2013, 07:06 PM   #105
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both the ZL1 and new vette are awesome. the new yellow ZL1 vert in my dealers showroom now sits by itself as all the folks are swarming the new vette. i have the need for a backseat, as little as it is, i have a 9 yr old boy. for me, the camaro is a little more practical than the vette. i love the vette and my argument on the ZL1 is that its in vette territory on price range, but if i had to make a choice today, it would be the ZL1 camaro. it is a nice car. i went with a 2 LT as my wallet couldnt afford the Z. both cars are very nice, just depends on how much interior room/seats you need
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:40 PM   #106
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Never!!! lol I kept my ZL1 that I worked hard to get…and I just put a down payment on a new C7 Stingray 3LT 5Z1 Torch red with Black rims and racing seats and the whole she-bang! Can't wait to get it! I'd never sell my ZL1 though… good luck!
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:00 PM   #107
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I've always been a big Camaro guy myself. My parents, however, have always been big Corvette people. Where did they go wrong (or right?) with me? It's always a point of contention in my family that I own a ZL1 and they've always had Corvettes.

I seriously considered a new Corvette before I bought my ZL1. Due to some serious back problems I've had for a long time and will continue to have the rest of my life, a Corvette just wasn't for me. Sure it was fun, felt good, and went like a bat out of Hades, but getting out of one is just too much of a nightmare to try and do on a more regular basis. Camaro ZL1 it was. Happy ever since and don't regret a thing!
...driver comfort is paramount. I sat in a new Stingray about two weeks ago and gawked at all it's beauty and technology. The Recaro seat with traditional Corvette seating position made my chronically sore body hurt after 30 seconds. I guess starting it up and taking it through it's paces with the adrenaline rush will make that go away, until you get saddle sore and need to get out. With the ZL1, there is no pain or discomfort operating it, it's such a comfortable drivers ride. I can stay in it all day long and then some. Then, I wan't to get back into it after parking it. Remarkable ride. But old guys don't fly fighter jets either I surmise, and the new Vette is just like a modern fighter jet in a way....you strap it on..
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Old 12-11-2013, 07:56 AM   #108
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Never!!! lol I kept my ZL1 that I worked hard to get…and I just put a down payment on a new C7 Stingray 3LT 5Z1 Torch red with Black rims and racing seats and the whole she-bang! Can't wait to get it! I'd never sell my ZL1 though… good luck!

Now that's my kinda garage! Congrats! I'd like to do the same, but not sure how wise it would be, I really need a practical daily driver. Love the Red w/Black Rims! Haven't tried those seats yet, but always add them on when I'm on the build your own site.


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Old 12-11-2013, 08:11 AM   #109
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...driver comfort is paramount. I sat in a new Stingray about two weeks ago and gawked at all it's beauty and technology. The Recaro seat with traditional Corvette seating position made my chronically sore body hurt after 30 seconds. I guess starting it up and taking it through it's paces with the adrenaline rush will make that go away, until you get saddle sore and need to get out. With the ZL1, there is no pain or discomfort operating it, it's such a comfortable drivers ride. I can stay in it all day long and then some. Then, I wan't to get back into it after parking it. Remarkable ride. But old guys don't fly fighter jets either I surmise, and the new Vette is just like a modern fighter jet in a way....you strap it on..

Hmmm, I was very comfortable in the seats, it wasn't the Racing Seats, $1,995 extra, the regular seats, I'm trying to find one with those seats to see how they feel, but it felt good. But I have to agree with how comfortable the ZL1 is, nice fit, although the seat is a little big for me, I'd be better off in the Racing Seats, which unfortunately were not available at the time. Oh, and I always thought vette's were the Old Farts car of choice? Always see the "Old Farts" putt'n around with the top open. Top open I presume since the Old Farts putt-putt plenty on their own! LOL.


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Old 12-11-2013, 09:25 PM   #110
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Hmmm, I was very comfortable in the seats, it wasn't the Racing Seats, $1,995 extra, the regular seats, I'm trying to find one with those seats to see how they feel, but it felt good. But I have to agree with how comfortable the ZL1 is, nice fit, although the seat is a little big for me, I'd be better off in the Racing Seats, which unfortunately were not available at the time. Oh, and I always thought vette's were the Old Farts car of choice? Always see the "Old Farts" putt'n around with the top open. Top open I presume since the Old Farts putt-putt plenty on their own! LOL.


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...I'm tall, slim, and trim...<with a sore worn out body LOL> the Recaro's with straight leg traditional seating position in the Vette made me ache. That's just me.
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Old 12-11-2013, 10:38 PM   #111
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I have not read the entire thread, but I own both, and im not sure I could give up my zl for the c7.. the c7 is very badass, but man is it cramped in there compared to my c6
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Old 12-12-2013, 04:14 PM   #112
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I evaluated both and am now waiting to order a zl1.

Combination of more room, having a back seat in a pinch and the fact that the zl1 is a special edition vs the current vette which will become a plain Jane vette when the factory catches up with demand is what swung me in that direction.

My only residual worry was around interior quality but after test driving an as I am good.

Besides I am replacing a 1967 rs, so seems fitting it be a camaro.

Now if only they'd take my order.







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Old 12-12-2013, 06:23 PM   #113
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I love Corvettes and the C7 is no exception. I was saving up for one until I came to the realization that I need a backseat more than I thought I did. This came with a perk though as I was able to get a new car now instead of in a year or two. I love Camaros, this will be my second, but they don't compare to Corvettes imo. Later in life I'll own one when I have the space and money to have 2 cars.
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Old 12-12-2013, 07:30 PM   #114
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I love Corvettes and the C7 is no exception. I was saving up for one until I came to the realization that I need a backseat more than I thought I did. This came with a perk though as I was able to get a new car now instead of in a year or two. I love Camaros, this will be my second, but they don't compare to Corvettes imo. Later in life I'll own one when I have the space and money to have 2 cars.

Wait until you actually drive YOUR ZL1 and then compare the Corvette against it again. Might reconsider your way of thinking?
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Wait until you actually drive YOUR ZL1 and then compare the Corvette against it again. Might reconsider your way of thinking?
...I concur wholeheartedly...drive one VS the other swetty palm adrenaline rush, for an extended period of time, and see which one you want to you want to walk away from, and which one beckons you back....body feel and comfort wise.
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Old 01-04-2014, 09:02 PM   #116
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I have not read the entire thread, but I own both, and im not sure I could give up my zl for the c7.. the c7 is very badass, but man is it cramped in there compared to my c6
I agree with you.

I'm sure the C7 is an awesome vehicle that drives and handles great but...........

Before I purchased my ZL1, I also looked at the C7. Once I sat inside and got a good feel for the interior space of the car, I knew it was a no-go. I cant fit in the darn thing. 6'5" with 38" inseam. I've owned a C5 & C6 but the C7 feels much smaller inside. Yes, it does give that cockpit feel that many love but workable space is sacrificed. I sat in the car for 15 minutes and literally couldn't move. My knees were touching the lower dash under the steering wheel. While sliding around on the seat a little, my knee hit the trunk release by mistake and popped the trunk. The seat was all the way down and back (which includes sitting almost straight up so I could slide the seat back as far as it would go). Huge, huge let down because I'm a Vette fan also.

I also agree with what others have said. The ZL1 is the baddest of Camaro's just as the ZR1 is the baddest of Vettes. Now that C7's are in circulation, the hype will die down on the current models and will shift to the Z06 (and possible ZR1's) when they are released.

In a nutshell, even if I could fit in the current C7 model, I still wouldn't purchase it over the ZL1 and I'm not even considering the Z06 (or possible ZR1) when they are released because if a fully loaded Z51 Stingray 3LT MSRP is 75K, I know I wont be willing to pay the price for either one of those upgraded models.
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Old 01-05-2014, 01:08 AM   #117
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I wouldn't, the zl1 is a special kind of car, there are so many vettes out there. Id also hold out for the z06.
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:33 AM   #118
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If your talking residuals and value, I would go with the ZL1 over the long run. If your talking performance, there is no comparisons. Your talking a pony car vs a sports car. Me myself I think it shows just how remarkable the ZL1 is, the fact that we are comparing it to the Corvette. If your going to mod it doesn't matter. The only C7 I would trade my ZL1 for would be the 2014 ZO6. The ZL1 is far from base, the C7 no matter what they tell you is base. The vettes are still "new" right now, but I promise you as a finance director, if your looking to keep the car for 3 years or more, the base model Corvette will not hold its value as well as the specialty Camaro ZL1. In reverse that would be like comparing a new SS Camaro to a new Corvette ZO6, there is no comparison, both great cars but they call it ZO6 for a reason.


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Only thing about the c7 I like more than the zl1 is the dark green color they have. I'd really like that on a camaro zl1. Rather bummed there are so,little dark green color options out there these days.
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Old 03-11-2014, 05:54 PM   #120
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Dimitri, your old ZL1 is in good hands man. Picked it up this past Saturday.
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Old 03-11-2014, 06:41 PM   #121
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I was planning on a C7, but after doing some research, I learned the ZL1 is better suited for me. The C7 is awesome and and edges out the ZL1 ever so slightly in acceleration, stock on stock, BUT bolt ons to bolt ons, the ZL1 wins in the acceleration department. For basic bolt ons, there isn't a huge improvement to be had with the C7. You have to go FI, nitrous or heads and cam to make a substantial difference. I didn't want to do any of those things with my next car, especially another car with active fuel management. My G8 GT turned into a nightmare. It really depends on what you want. It's definitely a bad ass ride and turns heads like a Lambo or Ferrari would!
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Old 03-11-2014, 06:58 PM   #122
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I evaluated both and am now waiting to order a zl1.

Combination of more room, having a back seat in a pinch and the fact that the zl1 is a special edition vs the current vette which will become a plain Jane vette when the factory catches up with demand is what swung me in that direction.
I also looked at both C7 and ZL1 and went with the ZL1. I'm 6'-4" and slim but felt really snug in the Vette. I also like the maxed out, badass nature of the ZL1 and felt the C7 would be just another used Vette in 5 years.

I read a great Automobile Mag article called "Sibling Rivalry" that compared the C6 Grand Sport to the ZL1. I thought this quote says it best

"These cars are two different answers to the same question; they offer similar braking, acceleration, and lateral-grip performance figures and yet feel nothing like each other. Picking a winner is a matter of taste and expectations."
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I read a great Automobile Mag article called "Sibling Rivalry" that compared the C6 Grand Sport to the ZL1. I thought this quote says it best

"These cars are two different answers to the same question; they offer similar braking, acceleration, and lateral-grip performance figures and yet feel nothing like each other. Picking a winner is a matter of taste and expectations."
PERFECTLY said
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