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Old 10-22-2013, 09:06 AM   #1
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Traction in 1LE sucks!!!

50 degrees this morning when I had a doctors appointment. Guess what I was doing around every turn Caught me by surprise but was alot of fun.
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:10 AM   #2
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You mean traction sucks when it's cold.
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:12 AM   #3
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You mean traction sucks when it's cold.
Yep, traction in this car is a joke when it's cold out. You really got to pay attention to the weather with these tires, otherwise you'll take a turn and it might not work out too well.
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:13 AM   #4
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These tires are night and day depending on the weather. I will be going with Michelin PSS's, but not 100% how much better they are in the cold as they are also Summer High Performace. I will find out.
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:19 AM   #5
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Ya mine spin like crazy when it's cold and the car wheel hops really bad.
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:29 AM   #6
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Wasn't too cold out this morning but I don't wanna find out, got me a set of all-seasons on Heritage wheels for the winter for cheap!
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:33 AM   #7
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50 degrees this morning when I had a doctors appointment. Guess what I was doing around every turn Caught me by surprise but was alot of fun.
Don't run your car with with the Goodyears when it's under 20 degrees F. You will be buying new ones. As it is they don't last that long anyway.

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Old 10-22-2013, 10:37 AM   #8
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I just purchased Michelin Pilot Super Sports to replace the Goodyears and I can confirm that the traction is MUCH better in the cold weather. Night and day difference.
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Old 10-22-2013, 11:05 AM   #9
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Saturday I am having the Michelin Pilot All Season 3's installed. Ill post up some pics and a review when its done. I got them for $319 each at my local goodyear..1445 out the door.
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Old 10-22-2013, 01:17 PM   #10
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You guys shouldn't screw around when it's 50 out. Leave the tcs and stabiltrac on.
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Old 10-22-2013, 01:28 PM   #11
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Saturday I am having the Michelin Pilot All Season 3's installed. Ill post up some pics and a review when its done. I got them for $319 each at my local goodyear..1445 out the door.
Whats the difference with these and the pilot supersports in performance and looks?


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Old 10-22-2013, 02:38 PM   #12
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But when there warm you can do this
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Old 10-22-2013, 02:44 PM   #13
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Pilot Super Sport 315s on rear, 285s on front. Outstanding tires.

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Old 10-22-2013, 02:49 PM   #14
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Saturday I am having the Michelin Pilot All Season 3's installed. Ill post up some pics and a review when its done. I got them for $319 each at my local goodyear..1445 out the door.
Did you get the $70 dollar credit? Mine came in at $1390 I hope to have these put on Thursday.
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Old 10-22-2013, 03:11 PM   #15
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[QUOTE=Jims Mongoose;7115894]Whats the difference with these and the pilot supersports in performance and looks?

Really interested in what I give up and or gain between the all weather and the supersports. Also what do each look like mounted if anyone has pix.

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I saw a set mounted at Fontana when i was there,i like the look of the Goodyears better.I think grip is what you will lose,my understanding is the Goodyears are a superior "Track" tire.
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Thanks for the info.

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I saw a set mounted at Fontana when i was there,i like the look of the Goodyears better.I think grip is what you will lose,my understanding is the Goodyears are a superior "Track" tire.
Thanks for the information and it is quite useful. I also want to know what the all weather pilots look like compared to the supersports.

When I change tires as long as the pilots, either the super sports or all weather and look good and perform well on the street I will be happy.

Also is it possible that either the all weather pilots or the supersports are better for drag racing(not on the street of course).

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Old 10-22-2013, 04:06 PM   #18
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Pilot Super Sport 315s on rear, 285s on front. Outstanding tires.

Nate,

Ah ha, someone with 315/285 PSS!! So are you having ANY rubbing issues, any issues at all with the 315's on the rear?
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Old 10-22-2013, 04:48 PM   #19
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You guys shouldn't screw around when it's 50 out. Leave the tcs and stabiltrac on.
How do you know they didn't?

It is entirely possible that if those systems were calibrated for "regular SS" tires that you could still exceed their capabilities to correct in cold weather on those Goodyear G: 2 tires. If those systems were calibrated to suit the way a 1LE could be expected to be driven in the summer, difficulty in the cold is all but absolutely guaranteed.

Your first sentence is exactly what 1LE and ZL1 owners need to be keeping in mind, along with some old-time winter weather driving advice (drive like there's an eggshell on the gas pedal that you aren't supposed to break). Drive gently enough in poorish conditions and you may never actually use any other form of help.


I have a pretty good idea what you 1LE guys are up against here. The Goodyear Asymmetrics that I run for 3 seasons out of the year are only enough better in cool/cold weather than the G:2's to not have warnings posted about potential tread cracking; their traction starts to suck at about 45°F instead.


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Old 10-22-2013, 04:53 PM   #20
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I drove my car this afternoon when it was 42 degrees and it started sprinkling with Stabiltrac and traction control off. From reading camaro5 i am surprise i am not dead.
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Old 10-22-2013, 04:56 PM   #21
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Really interested in what I give up and or gain between the all weather and the supersports. Also what do each look like mounted if anyone has pix.
Jim, you live in Arizona... no need to change the from the stock Goodyears for the few times it may get cold enough for it to matter with the traction on the Goodyears.

That being said, I highly recommend the Michelin PSS, again don't waste time on the Michelin All-weather tires in Arizona. I ran the Michelin PSS all winter in Arizona and had no issues with traction.

Once my stock Goodyears need replacing I plan on going with the Michelin PSS.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:38 PM   #22
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I drove my car this afternoon when it was 42 degrees and it started sprinkling with Stabiltrac and traction control off. From reading camaro5 i am surprise i am not dead.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:38 PM   #23
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I got a set Michelin PSS P285 front & P295 backs there a Great all round tire. Work good in a wide temperature range .
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:54 PM   #24
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I saw a set mounted at Fontana when i was there,i like the look of the Goodyears better.I think grip is what you will lose,my understanding is the Goodyears are a superior "Track" tire.

Michelin PSS have better grip than the Goodyears from my experience, wet or dry track and just ask Tire Rack which are the best rated....unless you're going to a full track tire, I wouldn't run anything but the Michelin's....
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:48 PM   #25
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Did you get the $70 dollar credit? Mine came in at $1390 I hope to have these put on Thursday.
Nope didn't get a credit but you can be sure I'm going to call about it tomorrow. Thanks tramtwo! Good luck Thursday. I am worried they are going to scuff my rim! .
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