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Old 10-29-2013, 01:03 PM   #26
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You guys know that in 2010 Mercedes Benz came out with satin finish on a lot of there car's, so you know there are cleaners for them, i was thinking of using there paint, will see.
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Old 10-29-2013, 02:00 PM   #27
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Pretty sure the Z/28 paint job we are seeing is a stock Cadillac color...
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:10 PM   #28
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Old 10-29-2013, 05:45 PM   #29
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You guys know that in 2010 Mercedes Benz came out with satin finish on a lot of there car's, so you know there are cleaners for them, i was thinking of using there paint, will see.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:20 PM   #30
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If it's a custom blend it won't have a paint code - like the satin black pearl I wanted to paint my 2011 didn't have a paint code.

And the reason you won't see it as a production color is because it's a satin finish - you can't bush or polish scratches out of satin paint, it'll make the paint shiny. You're only option for paint "repair" is to repaint the panel.
That said, why not offer it anyway?
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Old 11-02-2013, 08:40 AM   #31
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That said, why not offer it anyway?
Because as a manufacturer you have to deal with customers complaining about all the shiny spots in their matte paint job? Look at it from GM's point of view... pretty as it is, it's not practical for a track car.
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Old 11-02-2013, 09:04 AM   #32
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Because as a manufacturer you have to deal with customers complaining about all the shiny spots in their matte paint job? Look at it from GM's point of view... pretty as it is, it's not practical for a track car.
There are many manufacturers offering matte finish vehicles - I've already posted Harley & Mercedes examples.
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Old 11-02-2013, 10:19 AM   #33
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High maintenance on satin finishes is not necessarily true.

Harley Davidson has been using them on many models for many years. From flat to pearl to flip flop colors.

MOF, check out the 2013 V ROD, which has a satin finish pearl white finish. (white hot denim)

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Satin or matte is not hard to maintain. White I've heard is tough. As for repairing a scratch, I'm not sure how it will be done but Hyundai must know something after releasing the below yet in a matte gunmetal color last year.
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Old 11-02-2013, 02:42 PM   #34
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Satin or matte is not hard to maintain. White I've heard is tough. As for repairing a scratch, I'm not sure how it will be done but Hyundai must know something after releasing the below yet in a matte gunmetal color last year.
My guess is a scratch has to be reprinted. So yes, not high maintenance - but you'll be paying a pretty penny if you have to repaint each time you get a scratch.
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My guess is a scratch has to be reprinted. So yes, not high maintenance - but you'll be paying a pretty penny if you have to repaint each time you get a scratch.
I can tell you from my Harley experience it doesn't scratch easy. MOF, I never got a chip or scratch. Tough stuff if it's done right...
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There are many manufacturers offering matte finish vehicles - I've already posted Harley & Mercedes examples.
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Satin or matte is not hard to maintain. White I've heard is tough. As for repairing a scratch, I'm not sure how it will be done but Hyundai must know something after releasing the below yet in a matte gunmetal color last year.
Let me highlight the relevant parts of my two previous posts:

1. "And therefore it is a no-go for those of us actually tracking the car. Impossible to clean the clag off without destroying the paint."
2. "pretty as it is, it's not practical for a track car."

Before I waste my time furthering my point, I'll ask the two of you to post up one photo each of you and your car after having driven at a track event. Because if you can't do that, then you simply don't have the background to understand the issue at hand.

If you do have tracking experience, please point out the clag cleaning technique and products you use to avoid damaging the matte/satin finish?

Fair?

The Z/28 is optimized to be a track car, why would GM then compromise on the serviceability of the paint?
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You may be right regarding track usage, but not necessarily for other models.

Back to my original inquiry - if a paint code exists, I'd like to know it.
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:41 AM   #38
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If it's a custom blend it won't have a paint code - like the satin black pearl I wanted to paint my 2011 didn't have a paint code.

And the reason you won't see it as a production color is because it's a satin finish - you can't bush or polish scratches out of satin paint, it'll make the paint shiny. You're only option for paint "repair" is to repaint the panel.
Gotcha, didn't realize it was satin. They could still put one out in a pearl color with a clear coat that's NOT satin. I'm mean all you have to do is open your eyes to the brand you've been putting pearl on for yrs....Cadillac.
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Old 11-05-2013, 07:12 AM   #39
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Hyundai even has a matte color. On the Veloster
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Old 11-05-2013, 10:04 AM   #40
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One of the other threads veered off on the matter of this color's non-availability. For Oshawa to use this color would require its availability across the full Camaro line. An extra color that would mean the deletion of an existing colour. And, as it is a pearlescent color, this colour would then be an extra cost option.

As Stig points out, it's NOT a low-maintenance finish. And it's a very tough colour to properly match, should a repair be necessary. ALL metallic pearls are so.

Again, it's a Show Car. And Show Cars are often finished in non-available colors/finishes, and prepped to a non-production level. I dare say what we see on that car would have cost GM THOU$AND$. To replicate it, consider: Disassembly, prepping "A" and "B" surfaces, including engine compartment and trunk, and finishing to "Quality - Show Car standards", followed by complete reassembly. NOT a cheap deal. Consider $20K+ as your opening bid...


A very wise man, Mr. Lowdown!

(...also - I'm not sure we have the capability to paint a satin finish at Oshawa -- and further, there ARE issues with maintenance of satin finishes...esp. when 'burnt rubber' comes in contact with it!)
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A very wise man, Mr. Lowdown!

(...also - I'm not sure we have the capability to paint a satin finish at Oshawa -- and further, there ARE issues with maintenance of satin finishes...esp. when 'burnt rubber' comes in contact with it!)
Thanks Scott.

I totally dig the Matte White of the show car and my emotional side says "gimme!", but then the Mother's R3 using reality slaps me across the face. I'm glad it's not an option so I don't have the temptation.
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Thanks Scott.

I totally dig the Matte White of the show car and my emotional side says "gimme!", but then the Mother's R3 using reality slaps me across the face. I'm glad it's not an option so I don't have the temptation.
Just get that psychedelic wrap they used at the Ring....Nobody will see you coming...lol...
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Just get that psychedelic wrap they used at the Ring....Nobody will see you coming...lol...
Lol! :-)

I want folks to see me coming so they'll be quick with a point-by...haha. The Ashen Gray has my name all over it and won't show the clag. That is my spec right there. Thanks to ShnOMac for the posted pic.
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Lol! :-)

I want folks to see me coming so they'll be quick with a point-by...haha. The Ashen Gray has my name all over it and won't show the clag. That is my spec right there. Thanks to ShnOMac for the posted pic.
Good choice...almost looks lower than ones in other pics...
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Lol! :-)

I want folks to see me coming so they'll be quick with a point-by...haha. The Ashen Gray has my name all over it and won't show the clag. That is my spec right there. Thanks to ShnOMac for the posted pic.
Tidbit of info: That Z/28 is actually black - just color-shifted for photos, if you will.....it's on display at SEMA as I type this.
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...thanks Scott... and please make sure you tell the guys behind the project they knocked another one out of the ballpark! I can hardly wait for it's release. I am amazed with the C5 Camaro Z/28. You guys did it again!
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...thanks Scott... and please make sure you tell the guys behind the project they knocked another one out of the ballpark! I can hardly wait for it's release. I am amazed with the C5 Camaro Z/28. You guys did it again!

...yeah ---but the tail lamps have made people sterile just by looking at them.........and one person's nose fell off............and another one lost an ear...............



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...yeah ---but the tail lamps have made people sterile just by looking at them.........and one person's nose fell off............and another one lost an ear...............



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Old 11-15-2013, 10:53 AM   #49
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...yeah ---but the tail lamps have made people sterile just by looking at them.........and one person's nose fell off............and another one lost an ear...............
Yes, but it's only a flesh wound...

As regards the paint, I would never want matte paint. I've known too many people who get a scratch, have a panel repainted, and have issues with it not matching -- especially the dark grey color Mercedes uses.

You can get a satin ClearBra wrap. I'm thinking of ordering white, then wrapping the entire car in satin ClearBra. Not sure how much weight that might add -- 20 lbs?
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Chevy should use the white diamond paint on the camaro
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