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Old 10-27-2013, 05:43 AM   #26
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If no recaros, then price is about 4k too high. Invoice price ad others have said is your target.
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Old 10-27-2013, 05:46 AM   #27
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Way too high of a price, I am paying just over $42k for a 2SS/RS 1LE with NPP and Recaros. Go to TrueCar and pull the pricing from there and have the dealer match that or find a dealer that will match that price.
Truecar was the site.
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:44 AM   #28
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Invoice price isn't what dealers pay.
There's MSRP
Then Invoice
Then there's advertising, holdback and a few other miscellaneous charges below invoice that get you to dealer cost.
And as far as dealer ads complete scam. Do not pay for nitrogen tires or any of that. I was a Chevy salesman I know all about that.
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:50 AM   #29
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My biggest suggestion is just say that you are credit union member and want to participate in the program where you get invoice price. Make them show you the invoice to verify and do basic calculations so you don't pay for any dealer ads.
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:11 AM   #30
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That price isnt far off according to truecar.
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:16 AM   #31
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if you want to deal with Hendrick, check out the Cary, NC store. They rock. I got my 2ss/rs 1le for the price of a reg 2ss. granted it is a 13, but still... the 14's werent out yet and they could of sold it out it three days before i could get there but they didnt.. kept their word. And they will ship too... Ask for Brian Ceincen...
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Old 10-27-2013, 01:49 PM   #32
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Invoice price isn't what dealers pay.
There's MSRP
Then Invoice
Then there's advertising, holdback and a few other miscellaneous charges below invoice that get you to dealer cost.
And as far as dealer ads complete scam. Do not pay for nitrogen tires or any of that. I was a Chevy salesman I know all about that.


I am currently a Chevy salesman and what he is saying is 100% true. Also I wouldn't pay more than 400 for all those adds. Only reason I'd pay that much is to make dealing with the dealer easier.
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Old 10-27-2013, 03:50 PM   #33
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Thanks guys. I'm holding off for the moment and see if they call back. I doubt they will but I'm not in a hurry. I looked at true car, took the average price for a 2SS/RS, added the sunroof, MyLink, 1LE and it came to 44,9. Granted that is retail options but it puts it right at what they were asking. I'm going to start looking at ordering and putting more down. Want my note at 425 or less for 60. Credit is 802 so I have some options.

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Old 10-27-2013, 04:56 PM   #34
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The price you were quoted does seem high. Pay invoice or below and you know you're getting a fair deal. In a usaa member so I get 750 below invoice.

Dealers don't pay invoice, that's just a common assumption.
From someone who used to be in the biz, the invoice price already includes the dlr's profit. And it makes sense. They have to make some $$$, losing a $100 on every sale but making it up in volume just doesn't pencil out....
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Old 10-27-2013, 08:24 PM   #35
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From someone who used to be in the biz, the invoice price already includes the dlr's profit. And it makes sense. They have to make some $$$, losing a $100 on every sale but making it up in volume just doesn't pencil out....
This is Hendricks no1 dealership. They do 50 cars/Saturday. Only did 19 as of 7p on Sat night. Again, not far off but I'm thinking we were 1500 away in price. Just bought a house and have some expenses coming (ahem, Christmas etc). In any event I'm still looking and may go back to them but more than likely its the turn of the year.
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:28 AM   #36
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2SS and RS are a must if you are going to have the best looking Camaro (1LE) then you might as well go all out!
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:17 PM   #37
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In a usaa member so I get 750 below invoice.
I just joined USAA about a week ago. Is being a member enough, or do you need to be in their credit union too? I probably will join that later anyway, I guess. Anyone know if GM Card savings can be used on top of USAA?
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:31 PM   #38
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If your going to get a 1LE then don't waste money on the 2SS and RS package. The 1LE option is a performance package and the 2SS/RS package takes performance away by adding weight and the RS package adds nothing since you don't get the RS wheels when you get the 1LE package.

The 1LE dealer pre-orders are to get money and nothing else, it doesn't sound like they are considering performance when ordering them that way. I would recommend a custom order and get what you want. Ask around, the best 1LE is the 1SS with no RS package and it will come in about $4500 less.

Definitely get the NPP option exhaust and backup camera with the 1SS, they are a must.

Ditto on the credit union thing as well, that helps.
I agree with all you said, and the camera may have been a good idea, but we had to special order to avoid the NPP, and I am so glad we did. We go just as fast and handle just as well, but spent less and can do it without others noticing as much, but hey that's me. I could care less about the 2SS and RS features. As far as price, we ended up at invoice, less GM Card discount and GM discount. They did throw in about 10 oil changes.

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Old 10-28-2013, 04:37 PM   #39
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No they do it because most people want leather interior in their car. Which adds little to no weight. People don't only want a high performing car, but one that is nice on the inside as well. If it's gonna be my daily driver, it's going to have a nice interior, not cloth lol.
To each his own, but I could not see paying an extra $4500 just for leather seats and halo lights. If the cloth seats are making it for you then you could just add the Recaro seats for less than $4500. Even the gauge cluster can be bought for $400 and install yourself if you really want that. The only thing I miss is the HUD, but that can be added as option too if you really want.
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:39 PM   #40
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Don't spend extra to get Halos! Especially when there are better aftermarket options available!

We have Halo kits for a fraction of the cost of OEM ones and they can be controlled from your phone!

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Old 10-28-2013, 05:35 PM   #41
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Just purchased in Austin TX a 2014 2SS/RS 1LE, Blue Ray, Recaros, Sunroof, Nav, Dual Mode Exhaust, Rear Cam, for $45275. MSRP was $47185. Truecar target at $45,430.
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Old 10-28-2013, 06:04 PM   #42
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I just joined USAA about a week ago. Is being a member enough, or do you need to be in their credit union too? I probably will join that later anyway, I guess. Anyone know if GM Card savings can be used on top of USAA?
just have to be a member
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Old 10-28-2013, 06:06 PM   #43
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Don't spend extra to get Halos! Especially when there are better aftermarket options available!

We have Halo kits for a fraction of the cost of OEM ones and they can be controlled from your phone!

PM me if you need help with lighting

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Old 10-28-2013, 06:09 PM   #44
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just have to be a member
Thanks. Now I hope someone can answer the second question. If GM Card savings can be used on top of USAA?
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Old 10-28-2013, 06:09 PM   #45
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to the RS/Halo haters....you're telling me this doesnt look sick!
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Old 10-28-2013, 06:14 PM   #46
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they can be controlled from your phone!
And the reason I would want to do this? Not being a smart ass, just asking.
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:56 PM   #47
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I just joined USAA about a week ago. Is being a member enough, or do you need to be in their credit union too? I probably will join that later anyway, I guess. Anyone know if GM Card savings can be used on top of USAA?
When I bought my 1LE I was asked for my USAA insurance card to get the 750 discount, not my members card.
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Old 10-28-2013, 11:37 PM   #48
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When I bought my 1LE I was asked for my USAA insurance card to get the 750 discount, not my members card.
Thanks. Were you able to combine this savings with other savings, GM credit card or otherwise?
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Old 10-29-2013, 01:25 AM   #49
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Also try using carsdirect.com and build what you want to get an idea of price and what is truely feasible to get the car at. My buddy actually just went through them to buy his 14 mustang gt and never saw a dealership until he picked it up. They have dealerships that fight to get your business at the price listed on their website. That's what I did when I bought my titan and it was awesome and I worked at dealerships for 8 years, unfortunately I had to go to a dealership since I was trading in my truck. Hope this helps some of you guys. Just built your car on carsdirect.com and price shows 42,893.00.

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Old 10-29-2013, 06:16 AM   #50
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Build your car right here and go by the invoice price:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=303745

If your dealer won't sell it to you for that price then find a new dealer.

As for your dealers $1200 package, locking lugs, floor mats, tint, etc, etc, I would totally pass on little crap like that. All of the things in that package can be added by yourself as you see fit. Saving $1200 by NOT going with their "package" will reduce your monthly payment by $20-$30. Do you really want to finance a set of floor mats for 4-5 years?

Keep in mind that the price for a 1SS has recently gone up by over a grand. If you decide to order a car right now, the pricing from the link I provided will not be accurate. If you find any 1LE's on the lots right now, they will have been built with the pricing from the link.
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