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Old 10-30-2013, 10:08 AM   #18
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Just curious, since your package has a 3/36 warranty from us why didn't you call us and let us take care of it for you?
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Old 10-30-2013, 10:35 AM   #19
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Just curious, since your package has a 3/36 warranty from us why didn't you call us and let us take care of it for you?


Pretty obvious he wanted to create drama and try to throw a VERY reputable company under the bus for attention. Pretty clear here that they followed their warranty exactly. If he had a problem with it he should have went with a different company that willingly pays all labor costs for repairs.
Additionally, he's a little butt hurt that the shop took him for an absolute RIDE, charging 7 hrs of labor.....

Feel bad for him but it's hard to argue with black and white.
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:36 PM   #21
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Pretty obvious he wanted to create drama and try to throw a VERY reputable company under the bus for attention. Pretty clear here that they followed their warranty exactly. If he had a problem with it he should have went with a different company that willingly pays all labor costs for repairs.
Additionally, he's a little butt hurt that the shop took him for an absolute RIDE, charging 7 hrs of labor.....

Feel bad for him but it's hard to argue with black and white.
I for one would feel the same way the OP does, it's kinda of BS that a product with 3000 miles has to have anything done to it other than drive it. As for the shop he chooses to take his car to, that is his choice, no one but his. If this very REPUTABLE company cared anything about its customers they would have atlease offered what they thought it should take to replace THEIR defective part. After all it OP already paid to install it once, it shouldn't have had to be taken back off. He's not asking for the winning lottery ticket here, he just wants what any red blooded American would.......his money's worth.
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:11 PM   #22
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Let me get this in a better picture since this is Camaro5...

Car has 3100 miles

Blower Valley cover is a known issue

Company warranty is to send New Valley cover for the unit and make said shop install the valley cover?
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:29 PM   #23
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Let me get this in a better picture since this is Camaro5...

Car has 3100 miles

Blower Valley cover is a known issue

Company warranty is to send New Valley cover for the unit and make said shop install the valley cover?
BINGO....per their advertised warranty.

If you went to a parking lot at Chevy and saw a sign that said "not responsible for theft or damage"...and your window was broken into and sunglasses stolen out of your car...would you expect GM to then pay for your glasses or window? NO

Silly comparison but relatively similar theory.

Don't touch the hot pan...burn yourself and want someone to pay for burn treatment?

Okay, I'm getting stupid... .I feel for the OP...it SUCKS for him but that is their warranty. Simple as that, like it or not. Could they have stepped up and helped with the labor costs, sure. Did they have to legally in any way...NO.

The WORST part of this story IMO is him actually paying for 7 hrs of labor to install the vally plate with gaskets and bolt down the blower...ensure belts are good etc Very simple and a couple hrs tops! ....I'd have told them to go F themselves. I woulda got an up front quote from the shop.
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Old 10-30-2013, 03:04 PM   #24
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BINGO....per their advertised warranty.

If you went to a parking lot at Chevy and saw a sign that said "not responsible for theft or damage"...and your window was broken into and sunglasses stolen out of your car...would you expect GM to then pay for your glasses or window? NO

Silly comparison but relatively similar theory.

Don't touch the hot pan...burn yourself and want someone to pay for burn treatment?

Okay, I'm getting stupid... .I feel for the OP...it SUCKS for him but that is their warranty. Simple as that, like it or not. Could they have stepped up and helped with the labor costs, sure. Did they have to legally in any way...NO.

The WORST part of this story IMO is him actually paying for 7 hrs of labor to install the vally plate with gaskets and bolt down the blower...ensure belts are good etc Very simple and a couple hrs tops! ....I'd have told them to go F themselves. I woulda got an up front quote from the shop.
BINGO!?!

More like fail!

Lets put it in Maryland speed terms,

I buy an alternator from autozone with warranty, A shop installs it for 2 hrs labor.. Once installed they fire the car up only to find out the alternator has a bent shaft!!

They call and tell me the BRAND NEW alternator I gave them to put on has a bent shaft and they have removed it for me to return to Autozone.. I take it back to them expecting a FULL refund of their defective POS only to have them give me a center shaft to replace the bent one in my Brand New Unit I purchased 2 months ago...

Now my shop has to spend extra time not only removing and installing 2 alternators but now they get the liberty of replacing the bent shaft too...

Would any of you go to AutoZone and buy an alternator again if that was the case???!?!
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Old 10-30-2013, 03:08 PM   #25
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I'm sure if we were talking crate engines and the issue was a bad oil pickup gasket causing a loss in oil pressure... Most engine manufactures would send you a new pickup and O ring and pay for some labor for causing you the grief. Or if your engine was toast due to loss oil pressure after 3100 mile from their defective o ring, replace the motor!!! Not send you a good for nothing oring!!

Point is if this is how Magnuson warrantys their products threw a fine line of Mumbo jumbo Bullshit, ill go Vortech or Procharger.... Make more power and not have some clown mail me a center shaft... Instead send my head unit in and have it back in No time!
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BINGO!?!

More like fail!

Lets put it in Maryland speed terms,

I buy an alternator from autozone with warranty, A shop installs it for 2 hrs labor.. Once installed they fire the car up only to find out the alternator has a bent shaft!!

They call and tell me the BRAND NEW alternator I gave them to put on has a bent shaft and they have removed it for me to return to Autozone.. I take it back to them expecting a FULL refund of their defective POS only to have them give me a center shaft to replace the bent one in my Brand New Unit I purchased 2 months ago...

Now my shop has to spend extra time not only removing and installing 2 alternators but now they get the liberty of replacing the bent shaft too...

Would any of you go to AutoZone and buy an alternator again if that was the case???!?!
Because that is how every auto parts warranty is handled?

You are the customer..your money makes the decisions. Read the warranty before you buy. If you don't like it, don't buy.

I am willing to bet however if you only want to buy parts where they pay your labor costs for a warranty claim you will be sitting around with a broken down car for a while.

I do think it is wrong to buy a product where the warranty info is readily available up front, then then bash the company when something happens because you don't think it goes far enough.

Yes your situation sucks..but it is part of the game.
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Old 10-30-2013, 03:51 PM   #27
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BINGO!?!

More like fail!

Lets put it in Maryland speed terms,

I buy an alternator from autozone with warranty, A shop installs it for 2 hrs labor.. Once installed they fire the car up only to find out the alternator has a bent shaft!!

They call and tell me the BRAND NEW alternator I gave them to put on has a bent shaft and they have removed it for me to return to Autozone.. I take it back to them expecting a FULL refund of their defective POS only to have them give me a center shaft to replace the bent one in my Brand New Unit I purchased 2 months ago...

Now my shop has to spend extra time not only removing and installing 2 alternators but now they get the liberty of replacing the bent shaft too...

Would any of you go to AutoZone and buy an alternator again if that was the case???!?!
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I'm sure if we were talking crate engines and the issue was a bad oil pickup gasket causing a loss in oil pressure... Most engine manufactures would send you a new pickup and O ring and pay for some labor for causing you the grief. Or if your engine was toast due to loss oil pressure after 3100 mile from their defective o ring, replace the motor!!! Not send you a good for nothing oring!!

Point is if this is how Magnuson warrantys their products threw a fine line of Mumbo jumbo Bullshit, ill go Vortech or Procharger.... Make more power and not have some clown mail me a center shaft... Instead send my head unit in and have it back in No time!
That's YOUR educated decision and RIGHT as the consumer.

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Because that is how every auto parts warranty is handled?

You are the customer..your money makes the decisions. Read the warranty before you buy. If you don't like it, don't buy.

I am willing to bet however if you only want to buy parts where they pay your labor costs for a warranty claim you will be sitting around with a broken down car for a while.

I do think it is wrong to buy a product where the warranty info is readily available up front, then then bash the company when something happens because you don't think it goes far enough.

Yes your situation sucks..but it is part of the game.
WINNING!

Would you have your fiance sign a pre-nup agreement...then after the marriage goes south and a divorce happens....would you give her everything you own....despite the pre-nup? Is she entitled to everthign you own? NO. Didn't think so. The soon to be ex-wifes argument in court cant be..."Well, I agreed to the pre-nup....because I didn't think anything would go wrong....but I still want all his sh*t".

Not going to happen!
BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ESTABLISHED AGREEMENT IN BLACK AND WHITE THAT PROTECTS BOTH SIDES. He agreed to buy the product KNOWING the warranty. The fact that something went wrong is irrelevant to that agreement.
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Its nice for all the members here to see how all of you sponsors have replied. Do you think that any of these membrs feel too comfortably about spending their hard earned money with you when the answer they will get to a problem is " you gotta pay to play". Sucks to see that your vendors just see us as a means to your greedy end.
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Its nice for all the members here to see how all of you sponsors have replied. Do you think that any of these membrs feel too comfortably about spending their hard earned money with you when the answer they will get to a problem is " you gotta pay to play". Sucks to see that your vendors just see us as a means to your greedy end.
See I think it is greedy to expect a company to give you something you are not entitle to. It's even worse to publically have a temper tantrum because they did not bend. Worst part is, this is not even a matter of them having a bad or strict warranty. No parts manufacturer pays for warranty labor.

If you read most vendors order terms, they state that labor costs are never covered under any circumstance. So while many will not speak up in a thread like this, trust me, if the situation came to pass, don't think they would hesitate to tell you no on labor money.

And yes, you do have to pay to play. As someone who had the stock GM oil pump go up, and had to replace a motor with 3K miles on it, I know it sucks.
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Point is if this is how Magnuson warrantys their products threw a fine line of Mumbo jumbo Bullshit, ill go Vortech or Procharger.... Make more power and not have some clown mail me a center shaft... Instead send my head unit in and have it back in No time!
BTW, Vortech has the same warranty terms..actually to a degree they are more strict. I am not a Procharger dealer, but I am trying to find their warranty.

Cliff Notes:

Labor not covered. Must remove the supercharger and send it in for "warranty evaluation" at your cost.

Also you must-

» You must be the original purchaser of the Street Legal Supercharger System.
» You must reside and use the Vortech product within the United States or Canada.
» The supercharger may not have been altered, disassembled, or modified in any way.
» The supercharger drive pulley must not be changed and the original pulley seal must be intact.
» The original Vortech serial number tag must not be removed, altered or replaced.
» You must change the engine oil and oil filter at least every 3,000 miles, using a minimum SH
rated oil or synthetic lubricant, regardless of the vehicle, filter or oil manufacturer's
recommendations for oil change intervals (engine oil-fed, non VTS, non V-3 type units only).
» You must remove, inspect and clean the oil inlet fitting to the supercharger every 12,000 miles
(engine oil-fed, non VTS, non V-3 type units only).
» You must change the supercharger fluid at least every 7,500 miles using only Vortech supplied
lubricating fluid (self-lubricated V-3 type units only)
» You must change the supercharger fluid at least every 30,000 miles using only Vortech
supplied lubricating fluid (self-lubricated VTS type units only)
VORTECH INDIVIDUAL SUPERCHARGERS

And much more.....

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...0-warranty.pdf
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We go to extraordinary lengths to take care of our customers, and our warranty procedures are very hassle free.

I agree with most of what Mike and Maryland Speed are saying. I've heard good things about Magnusson, and I'm sorry to hear you had issues, but you can't expect the product's manufacturer to cover the costs of an installation. How can they guarantee a shop's work if they didn't perform it themselves?

I understand your frustration, but there's no reason to get mad at the Vendors here on this forum, who work hard every day to make sure you get taken care of.

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I am just curious if everyone would be of the same opinion if the facts were that the vendor knew of the defect prior to shipment but sent it out anyway because their analysis showed it was more cost effective to worry about potential warranty issues later. Not that I am saying that they actually did know about it mind you.
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I appreciate all the feedback.....both those for and agaonst my position. I do not want to harm the reputation of any company on this site as I realize that without them, the site would not be what it is. I do however think that my experience should be shared for the benefit of those that may have a similar issue.

HENNESSEY....I'm sorry this was seen by yourself as an attack on you as the original installer.....but I feel that the BUILD quality is outstanding.....there was just a problem with one of the components
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