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Old 07-24-2009, 12:54 PM   #51
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The turbo kit actually has 2- 2.5 inch uppipes going to a single 3 inch right up to the turbo. There will be no restrictions at all and should be able to support a much larger turbo in the future for easy upgrades.

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Old 07-24-2009, 03:58 PM   #52
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As promised here is the pricing for the Single Turbo Kit :

The retail price for the kit will be $7,995.00 and will be available soon to the Camaro5 community. We will have a Special Introductory Offer for a limited time and offer the kit for $6,995.00 along with a reduced installation and tuned price.

We will have more details soon, but if you have any questions please PM JtinFL or myself and we would be happy to talk with you.

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Old 07-24-2009, 04:54 PM   #53
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ouch. that 8 grand doesn't include installation huh?

Looks like a few years before I can grab this.
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So, basically the same price as an uninstalled supercharger. So which boost type has the overall advantage, turbo or SC?

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Depends on what you want ... for a roots style (top mount blower), you will see instant boost and I consider this a bit more fun to drive on the streets with the better low end tq.

A turbo will be more efficient in the long run though, but I would also consider it a little more expensive to maintain.

What I am looking forward to seeing is a twin turbo setup with smaller turbos that will spool up much faster. That will give you great low end, however these setups (if done right) are typically much more expensive (I'd say your looking at 9k - 10k) than say a top mount blower.

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Depends on what you want ... for a roots style (top mount blower), you will see instant boost and I consider this a bit more fun to drive on the streets with the better low end tq.

A turbo will be more efficient in the long run though, but I would also consider it a little more expensive to maintain.

What I am looking forward to seeing is a twin turbo setup with smaller turbos that will spool up much faster. That will give you great low end, however these setups (if done right) are typically much more expensive (I'd say your looking at 9k - 10k) than say a top mount blower.

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Do you think there is a noticeable difference in daily operating cost (gas) to operate a Turbo over a S/C car? I’ve heard that a S/C can use as much as 60hp to turn it at full throttle at high rpm, but use less then 1hp cruising on the freeway. I’ve heard the term “free horsepower” before when talking about turbo charging. Is this what you are talking about when you say more efficient? Thanks.
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The retail price for the kit will be $7,995.00 and will be available soon to the Camaro5 community. We will have a Special Introductory Offer for a limited time and offer the kit for $6,995.00 along with a reduced installation and tuned price.
What is the cost with installation? What are initial tests calculating for increased peformance?
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As promised here is the pricing for the Single Turbo Kit :

The retail price for the kit will be $7,995.00 and will be available soon to the Camaro5 community. We will have a Special Introductory Offer for a limited time and offer the kit for $6,995.00 along with a reduced installation and tuned price.

We will have more details soon, but if you have any questions please PM JtinFL or myself and we would be happy to talk with you.

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Is yours done yet? Photo's Dyno? Installed price?
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We are trying everything possible to bring the total retail price down but we are using high quality parts and only the best components(Garrett, HP Tuners, Tial, 304 SS piping, ect.). The $5999 price will be the initial price that will be good till the end of the year.

Thanks and let me know if you have any questions.

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This is not always true. Our turbo sizing will spool up very very fast. Probably faster than most twin turbo setups. Its all about turbo sizing.

We will show everyone the results here soon with some dyno numbers.



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Depends on what you want ... for a roots style (top mount blower), you will see instant boost and I consider this a bit more fun to drive on the streets with the better low end tq.

A turbo will be more efficient in the long run though, but I would also consider it a little more expensive to maintain.

What I am looking forward to seeing is a twin turbo setup with smaller turbos that will spool up much faster. That will give you great low end, however these setups (if done right) are typically much more expensive (I'd say your looking at 9k - 10k) than say a top mount blower.

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Old 07-24-2009, 08:44 PM   #61
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What is the cost with installation? What are initial tests calculating for increased peformance?
Give us a call and we can talk about the initial costs including the install. We are a group of really nice people who like making cars go fast. I have turboed hundreds and hundreds of cars and love to do so. We will definitely take care of you and you will be amazed at the price installed when you see it. We would like to get a few more kits on the street in the next month or two.
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Is yours done yet? Photo's Dyno? Installed price?
Hey there, ours is in the final stages and will be at the track and on the dyno really soon. We are working out a few final locations of a couple parts just to make sure when we say that the turbo kit is done and perfect, there will be no issues of any kinds. We take a lot of pride in making sure that our kit will be perfect with no flaws. Give us a call at the shop!
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Old 07-24-2009, 10:37 PM   #63
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Great jump at the question I was going to ask about twin turbos?
But it makes sense that if using both exhausts only one turbo will provide the boost we need on the street!
Although I am waiting for the convertible if I grab a deal or win the lotto I will ship one down for fun.
And I will add, as for the cost, if you want to have the ponies, you got to feed them!!!!!!!!!!!

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So what kinda High Quality Intercooler are you using? Just curious if you have any pics? All I have seem to have seen is two different guys standing in front of the car holding a turbo. Also Interested in how you will be creating a cross over so that you get both exhaust manifolds to the single turbo. Should be a nice option.

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Nice kit and that's a fair price for all of the R&D and also for 304SS piping.

I Apologize if this has been asked already, but does it come with any fuel mods or injectors for that price? Are you running alky on your car?

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Well again the introductory price will be $5999. We will have TONS of pictures this week. We are finishing up the final details of the welding, placements of parts, and details on injectors/engine management.

We are working with a very well known injector company to provide a whole new line of injectors for the L99 and LS3 that have been proven on hundreds of other cars.

Sorry for the delay but we want to make sure that everything is perfect and in its final location when we post pictures up.

6.2 liters spooling up one medium size turbo is going to spool up very very fast. We will post up the Throttle Position Sensor vs Boost Graph when we are on the dyno for you.


Thanks and give us a call if you have any questions!

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Will your basic kit come as complete "bolt on" kit with Tuning software included?
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Will your basic kit come as complete "bolt on" kit with Tuning software included?
HP Tuner will be included and this kit should be very simple to install, even for a novice.

We were even thinking about letting our wives/girlfriends reinstall the kit on our shop car just to show how easy it can be.
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Whats better supercharger or turbo?
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You can put me down on the list for the initial L99 buy in. If the TQ numbers are anywhere close to where I think they will be it will be a done deal.
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You can put me down on the list for the initial L99 buy in. If the TQ numbers are anywhere close to where I think they will be it will be a done deal.
Thanks Todd...I got your PM and I'll give you a call tomorrow.
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Whats better supercharger or turbo?
This opens up a big can of worms because this debate has gone on as long as the two have been out!

The differences that I note (from having a Supercharged 650 horse C5 Vette and a slew of Grand Nationals) is that the supercharger power is more linear, in that the higher the rpm's go, the higher the power goes. The power curve is like a ramp instead of a tabletop like a turbo. This makes it easier to hook the car up (unless you drop the clutch at 3k rpm's or foot brake a stall converter, then both will kill some tires) .......advantage blower. Blowers are cheaper to buy........ Advantage blower. They have belts too, which can break............ advantage turbo. They also use power to make power......another advantage turbo.

In my opinion, one of the the Coolest things about a turbo is that you can use a boost controller (some Guys have used them with success on superchargers too though)! You can have a 5-7 psi "Street car" and then push a button and have your car go into Kill Mode" (higher boost)! Another thing about a turbo is the torque that it makes all the way through the power band! This makes for a VERY Enjoyable Street Car! Big horse numbers are nice, but torque is where it's at, and turbos make torque!

The turbo setups for a V8, providing the turbo is sized correctly for the application, will usually run better on the street because of the power under the curve that they make. In a properly sized V8 turbo setup, lag won't be a problem. The problem with turbo setups, is that peeps think that if a T62 will work, then a T88 should be better........WRONG!

The example that I'll give is that quite a few Supras use the big turbo setups and need N20 to spool them because they're so Huge. Once they get rolling, it's Game on, but most can't do it without some help (or race from 40 mph and up because the hair dryer is spooled already and in its "Sweet Spot"). Granted, not all Supras are like this, but quite a few are.

You can't go wrong with either, but if money was no object, I'd take a turbo!

The OP's setup looks like a Nice setup and appears to be a well thought out system that wasn't just slapped together to get out there and sell kits!

I just hit a little of my side of the debate, but I hope that this helped a little.

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Well again the introductory price will be $6995. We will have TONS of pictures this week. We are finishing up the final details of the welding, placements of parts, and details on injectors/engine management.

We are working with a very well known injector company to provide a whole new line of injectors for the L99 and LS3 that have been proven on hundreds of other cars.

Sorry for the delay but we want to make sure that everything is perfect and in its final location when we post pictures up.

6.2 liters spooling up one medium size turbo is going to spool up very very fast. We will post up the Throttle Position Sensor vs Boost Graph when we are on the dyno for you.


Thanks and give us a call if you have any questions!


its this week....


where are our pics!?
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