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#101 |
![]() Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 310
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Even though we had a couple delays that set us back two or three days, dyno and track times will be next week for sure!! Can't wait to see how she does in the 1/4 mile.
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#102 |
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ZZ Motorsports Sales Rep
Drives: 2010 SIM 1SS Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: moving to Texas
Posts: 149
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#103 |
![]() Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 310
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Thats exactly about what we were thinking for the basic bolt on kit.
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#104 |
![]() Drives: 03 Evo 8, 93 KAT S13 Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Houston
Posts: 50
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Do you guys use custom manifolds?
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#105 |
![]() Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 310
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We have made this kit so it bolts onto the stock manifolds. We have done this on other platforms and it works perfectly and keeps the costs down a lot. Dyno and track time very soon!
Last edited by JTinFL; 09-23-2009 at 08:22 AM. |
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#106 |
![]() Drives: 03 Evo 8, 93 KAT S13 Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Houston
Posts: 50
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Sweet, 4th gens did this alot too, proven to work well.
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#107 |
![]() Drives: RJT 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Auburn, AL
Posts: 144
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I'm trying to hide all the guns and knives in the house, then I'll let my wife know how much I'd like one of these kits for our 45th anniversary
Keep the info coming. Looks great so far
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#108 |
![]() Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 310
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Thanks! Cant wait to show you guys how it will perform!
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Drives: Camaro SS...........what else? Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: OOOOOOOklahoma where the wind comes sweepin' down the plains.
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#110 |
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sweet.
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'10 Camaro 2SS/RS 6spd - Mods: Kenne Bell 2.8, Kooks, Wortec Bi-Modal Exhaust & Big Brake Kit, MTI Shifter, BC Racing Coilovers, CCW C2K, Hotchkis Sway Bars, Carbon Fiber wrap. Thanks to Hartely Automotive for helping with this build.
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#111 | |
![]() Drives: Navigator/Corvette/2010 Camaro Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Maryland
Posts: 415
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Do you use a single CAT or relocate the factory CATS? The HP tuners, for those of us looking at other mods down the line, is there an option to upgrade to the full HP tuners suite? I personally want to upgrade to a custom VVT cam which will require special tuning of its own? You made reference in an earlier post to a properly sized single turbo having less lag than a twin turbo setup....care to offer some more thoughts on that? How are your components different than what STS uses (other than the location of course) Well,...I'm watching this thread closly
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#112 | |
![]() Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 310
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No need for a header upgrade at this point. Many cars with this style setup make plenty of power without header upgrades. We will probably offer a complete turbo upgrade package including new headers, downpipe, turbo, and a few other things that will be good for 1000whp+.
Turbo lag is all due to the size of the turbo housing vs engine displacement. I didnt say that all single turbos have less lag but was saying that this turbo will have little to no lag. I am not sure exactly what components STS is using on their Camaro kit. We are using top quality proven parts though so there will be no issues. Thanks for the interest and we will update this thread a lot in the next week. Quote:
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#113 |
![]() Drives: 2010 V6 Black Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Houston
Posts: 38
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Awesome....now, will you develop one for the v-6?
My mule is ready for loan. |
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Ghostly Unknown
Drives: Silver Ice 2010 SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Glen St Mary,Fla.
Posts: 461
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#115 |
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sweet
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#116 |
![]() Drives: 07 cobalt ss Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: FL
Posts: 2
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will this kit be able to run with meth injection? and how would it affect it?
also why didn't you guys go with a wider inter cooler there is definitely more space to put one in since you got the brace blocking half of it i think it just looks small compared to the whole front end of the car i know its thick and all but still looks small and will you be offering a kit with a bigger turbo offering around 800 whp or are you just sticking to the 700 and the 1000+ |
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#117 |
![]() Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 310
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Hopefully we will have it on the dyno today for some baseline numbers with the kit. Very excited!!
Going through other instruction manuals on installations of kits for Vettes, G8s, Camaros, and GTOs and I have to say that this should be the easiest turbo kit to install out there. I really feel like anyone could install it and it should only take a weekend to do it. To answer the questions in the last post: We will be playing around with the turbo size options as soon as we get this first turbo figured out. It wont be long for that. The pictures are a little misleading with the size and placement of the intercooler. I really dont think it would be any issue at all. There is a decent size gap from the bumper brace to the IC and plenty of air will get to it. It is as wide as you can go if you want to sit back in the middle section without cutting anything out of the way. Methanol will always help if tuned properly on any turbo setup. I am more of a fan of race gas though. |
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#118 |
![]() Drives: 07 cobalt ss Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: FL
Posts: 2
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another question is is that a water cooled turbo or just an oil cooled?
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#119 |
![]() Drives: 2010 Camaro L99 Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 73
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It's an oil and water cooled- dual ball bearing turbo.
***UPDATE*** We just loaded the Camaro into the trailer and off to the dyno. Dyno will be tomorrow morning, first thing. We'll post numbers and graph after we're done. |
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#120 |
![]() Drives: 2010 Camaro L99 Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 73
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Finally got the SS out into the daylight and cleaned up
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#121 |
![]() Drives: G8 GXP M6 White Hot Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Okinawa,Japan
Posts: 2
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Still looking for more installl pics but the kit sounds great. I have a g8 gxp 6spd and was wondering if this kit will bolt up too. I have the same LS3/tr6060 combo as the 2SS camaro.
What a/r are you using with the T04Z? On my supra I have the 1.0a/r TO4Z and it is a bit laggy. I know the LS3 should spool substantially faster. What is the chances of offering substitutes for particular items ie if I wanted to move to the HKS 60mm gt2 wastegate? look forward to your response and the dyno figures. Scott |
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#122 |
![]() Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 310
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UPDATE!!!!! 500whp and 545wtq on baseline boost.
Its alive!! After getting it all together, we have jumped on the dyno for some tuning. Since we didn't know exactly what kind of power it was going to make, we decided to start safe and work our way up. We just tuned the car today with stock exhaust and on wastegate springs. The kit makes exactly 8.5 psi and holds it all the way to redline. On only 8.5 psi the car made great power instantly. This kit has virtually no lag! We tuned it very safe with a low 11 to 1 AFR and hardly any timing. This is just the initial baseline and we still have to do a few more pulls on Monday to get the air/fuel perfect. That perfect air fuel will straighten out the graph perfect and will pick up some more horsepower.
Remember this is a L99 auto transmission and only on its baseline boost with stock exhaust! This is a completely stock car with our turbo kit just bolted on and we havent turned up the boost at all. This should be good for 650-700whp with no problem on more boost. We will be doing some more tuning on Monday and will straighten out the graph perfectly and probably unbolt the exhaust to see how much more power it will make. Please contact me with any questions. I will upload video and have tons of pictures later on tonight. Just look at this overlay of stock vs turbo, its incredible... ![]()
Last edited by JTinFL; 08-15-2009 at 05:59 PM. |
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#123 |
![]() Drives: 2010 SS AMB , mini revo Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Raleigh NC
Posts: 634
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+186HP
+230TQ Stock exhaust and funky A/F's Good job ! Where was the A/F wacky (5k-6k) ?
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#124 |
![]() Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 310
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We honestly were just playing around with it for a few pulls and didnt level out the AFRs completely. We will straighten out them on Monday. There are just still some rich spots and some timing that we will straighten out. I really just wanted to update everyone on some progress.
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#125 |
![]() ![]() Drives: 2013 ZL1 # 2195 Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Bradenton, FL
Posts: 957
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FANTASTIC RESULTS! CONGRADULATIONS!
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