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Old 10-31-2013, 12:41 PM   #1
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Any quarter mile times yet?

I know it's not a drag car. But most magazines, always post up 1/4 performance times. When they test the cars.
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Old 10-31-2013, 12:48 PM   #2
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The rear end was not designed to withstand multiple hard launches so I doubt GM would issue a time.
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Old 10-31-2013, 08:23 PM   #3
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I know it's not a drag car. But most magazines, always post up 1/4 performance times. When they test the cars.
How does your '32 street truck do as a mudder? What if magazines started testing Z06's in mud runs and rock crawls, does that make sense?

Is not everything about a cars set-up different for either drag or road course? You understand this, yes? Weight transfer? Gearing? Tires? Brakes? Suspension? Driveline?

Who gives a rat's ass about the 1/4 mile time of a Porsche GT3RS?
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:24 PM   #5
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Where do you think the mags get the cars from? And I am sure the manufacturers have some say in how their car is used.


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Old 11-01-2013, 08:09 AM   #6
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Haters gonna hate, Speedy. We'll see 1/4 mile times from the z28 soon enough. I remember when I first bought my ZL1 and took it to the track. Everyone was saying, "it's not designed to be a drag car, you should be on a road course!"
Why don't magazines test a COPO on the 'ring? It's the same question turned 180 degrees right? A COPO is built for the strip, Z/28 for a road course. Where are all the people crying in agony that the COPO hasn't been run on a road course and the times published?

By your comment, all those COPO owners would be haters because they would think you are a moron to want to see their car's time on a road course.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:17 AM   #7
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LOL, funny argument. Lets face it. This is the USA. We do stuff here that doesnt make technical sense. Like take a track car to the strip, or a strip car to the track. We like power in general and want to see what it does everywhere. It doesnt matter what it was designed for, just what we can do with it. Stock, modified, what can we do to MAKE it work for "this".

I mean come on.....we put SBC's under bar stools for petes sake .

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Old 11-01-2013, 10:11 AM   #8
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The rear end was not designed to withstand multiple hard launches so I doubt GM would issue a time.
Says who? It has a Helical diff in it which are 3 to 5 times stronger than the current SS disc sytle diff's, pretty close to what the Truetrac is, but with a few more Helicals, everything on that car is stronger, transmission included.
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Why don't magazines test a COPO on the 'ring? It's the same question turned 180 degrees right? A COPO is built for the strip, Z/28 for a road course. Where are all the people crying in agony that the COPO hasn't been run on a road course and the times published?

By your comment, all those COPO owners would be haters because they would think you are a moron to want to see their car's time on a road course.
That argument is not vaild. The COPO was literally designed only for the 1/4. It is 100% a drag car, the Z/28 is not 100% track car. It can not be driven on the street, and they only make 50 or so units a year. You can not drive the COPO to the track race it and drive it back.

While the Z/28 is designed to tackle the twisties, it can be driven on the street and whoever buys it can do whatever they want with it. And as much as you don't like it, when the magazines get their hands on it, they will post 1/4 times either from actually running it or just estimating.

While agree I the 1/4 times don't matter for the Z/28 why does it bother you so much?
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Says who? It has a Helical diff in it which are 3 to 5 times stronger than the current SS disc sytle diff's, pretty close to what the Truetrac is, but with a few more Helicals, everything on that car is stronger, transmission included.
I believe GM directly stated its not recommend for drag racing/hard launches
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:10 PM   #11
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I believe GM directly stated its not recommend for drag racing/hard launches

I see, I must have missed that one.
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:43 PM   #12
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How does your '32 street truck do as a mudder? What if magazines started testing Z06's in mud runs and rock crawls, does that make sense?

Is not everything about a cars set-up different for either drag or road course? You understand this, yes? Weight transfer? Gearing? Tires? Brakes? Suspension? Driveline?

Who gives a rat's ass about the 1/4 mile time of a Porsche GT3RS?
I would...
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:45 PM   #13
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Why don't magazines test a COPO on the 'ring? It's the same question turned 180 degrees right? A COPO is built for the strip, Z/28 for a road course. Where are all the people crying in agony that the COPO hasn't been run on a road course and the times published?

By your comment, all those COPO owners would be haters because they would think you are a moron to want to see their car's time on a road course.
Would love to see a COPO run the ring atleast once. I run anything I own. At several different formats. Just to see what it will do.

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Old 11-01-2013, 02:32 PM   #14
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GM will give a time, but there will be rain on part of the track.




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Old 11-01-2013, 02:47 PM   #15
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Would love to see a COPO run the ring atleast once. I run anything I own. At several different formats. Just to see what it will do.
You'd be very disappointed.
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have not seen it yet. I am curious to see how the LS7 does. I loved it in my z06 but that was a lighter car. 3.42 vs 3.91 though.

The give 1/4 mile times on any test they do soe they will be know eventually.

The Z28 is not near as road corse oriented as the copo is drag oriented. you people are fooling yourself.

If the Z28 had the solid phadt bushings and R compount tires I might understand these comments but it is still a street car with a vin.
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The phrase I remember by one of the GM execs was...."It's not built for the 1/4 mile....But you can certainly do that if you want..."

My guess is the Z/28 may very well get some test runs at the drags, just for the formality of saying they did it, but it won't be something that's a big deal for marketing, bragging rights, etc., regardless of how good or bad the times and speeds come out.
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:50 PM   #18
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I know it's not a drag car. But most magazines, always post up 1/4 performance times. When they test the cars.
Magazines have not yet been able to test the Z/28, or at least if they have the information has been embargoed. There was a media event a couple weeks ago where a bunch of media folks (including one of our moderators, Killer74Z28) went out to the GM proving grounds in Milford and got to ride along in the car and got to speak with Al Oppenheiser -the chief engineer for the Camaro. But they didn't get to do any sort of instrumented testing of the car. No 0-60, no 1/4 mile, no braking, no slalom.


The magazine reviews will probably get posted up on the web at the start of Z/28 production some time early next year.
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Old 11-01-2013, 06:07 PM   #19
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It can run the damn 1/4 mile.... that is the silliest thing Ive seen taken out of context. Maybe its not meant to bolt a set of 28" tall slicks and drop the clutch at 6 grand but it can certainly take a bunch of 1.8s on a sticky track just fine. Its not made out of glass.
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Old 11-01-2013, 06:54 PM   #20
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Why all the bashing on a Z/28 1/4 mile time? It's a Camaro. Someone will take it to the strip and will give times and compare that time to the GT500 for reasons we won't understand.

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Why would he disappointed? Because it would not put up a time anywhere near what a GT500, ZL1 or Z28 would? He can correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think he would expect it to put down an impressive time; he just would like to see what a COPO run there. If you don't have a high expectation, how could you get disappointed?
You sound like a smart guy? So, how about you take the time and make the effort to post up in this thread the build and tuning differences between a strip car and a road course car? Make it easy...COPO vs Z/28. Enlist the help of your 1/4 mile enthralled brothers posting in this thread to help you? You want a rational, analytical discussion, don't you? More light than heat? Elevate the discussion?
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Old 11-01-2013, 07:26 PM   #22
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1/4 ET is pretty tire/launch dependent but MPH is a good indicator of the HP making it to the ground...big tracks are like drag races between corners :-)
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The last thing we need in this thread are those "It'll run the same/similar times as the Z06" ridiculous comments that we saw regarding "Guess the 'Ring time".

Simple rule: 100 lbs. = 1/10 in the quarter, all other things being equal, which they seldom/never are.

What's a Z06 weigh? What's a z/28 weigh?

Do the math.

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Why would he disappointed? Because it would not put up a time anywhere near what a GT500, ZL1 or Z28 would? He can correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think he would expect it to put down an impressive time; he just would like to see what a COPO run there. If you don't have a high expectation, how could you get disappointed?
Uh...because it's built to go straight really fast for 10 seconds. Oh and did I say it's built to go straight...really fast...for 10 seconds...and the "Ring" is not so straight and it's many many miles long.
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Why would you want to take a $70,000? car and go against manufacturer recommendation and destroy your rearend. I mean you might not break it, but you might hurt it. The ZL1s rearend is almost bulletproof, I haven't heard of anyone destroying one. I wouldn't take my ZL1 4 wheelin, I would take my Jeep.


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