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Old 11-05-2013, 05:50 AM   #1
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my camaro vs stage 2 Subaru STi

my mods and hp are in my sig. my buddies 2013 STi put down 305whp and 275wtq on a mustang dyno. his mods are full turbo back exhaust, intake, and tune. who do you got? and should i race him from a roll or a dig?
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:58 AM   #2
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you will get DESTROYED off the line from a dig and have to play catch up...by 100MPH you'd likely be ahead.

From a roll you stand a much better chance and likely stay ahead the whole time
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Old 11-05-2013, 07:26 AM   #3
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you will get DESTROYED off the line from a dig and have to play catch up...by 100MPH you'd likely be ahead.

From a roll you stand a much better chance and likely stay ahead the whole time
Im with this guy!
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Old 11-05-2013, 07:42 AM   #4
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Im with this guy!
yeah the all wheel drive will help him big time. i think overall i will beat him (for now) but what im really worried about is when he does bigger injectors and fuel pump. he will gain another 30hp and around 60 pounds of torque. so he will be at 335whp and 345wtq. and if he goes E85 with the new injectors and fuel pump LOL he will be at 400whp and 400wtq. what can i do to keep up with him? it seems like the littlest mods make such a huge difference on his car. i guess my only real options are a cam or FI but i dont have the cash for FI right now lol and a cam is big bucks too
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:25 AM   #5
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yeah the all wheel drive will help him big time. i think overall i will beat him (for now) but what im really worried about is when he does bigger injectors and fuel pump. he will gain another 30hp and around 60 pounds of torque. so he will be at 335whp and 345wtq. and if he goes E85 with the new injectors and fuel pump LOL he will be at 400whp and 400wtq. what can i do to keep up with him? it seems like the littlest mods make such a huge difference on his car. i guess my only real options are a cam or FI but i dont have the cash for FI right now lol and a cam is big bucks too
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:38 AM   #6
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Without money it's hard to beat everybody. You gotta pay to play!
of course. that goes for anything. if your a fighter someone will always be able to kick your ass, if your a weight lifter there will always be someone stronger. but im not asking about how to be the fastest i just wanna no what do i have to do next to keep up with him and also not mess my car up. im very iffy about a cam because i dont want something to break lol and i would love to go forced induction and run it at a low safe psi but its so damn expensive lol
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:54 AM   #7
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of course. that goes for anything. if your a fighter someone will always be able to kick your ass, if your a weight lifter there will always be someone stronger. but im not asking about how to be the fastest i just wanna no what do i have to do next to keep up with him and also not mess my car up. im very iffy about a cam because i dont want something to break lol and i would love to go forced induction and run it at a low safe psi but its so damn expensive lol
That's your answer right there. Mod your car the way you are comfortable and don't worry about his car being faster. After all, yours looks better.
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Old 11-05-2013, 04:03 PM   #8
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Just put on drag radials and it won't matter at all.... awd is like a magical unicorn fuel that runs out when you have tire.
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:05 PM   #9
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Just put on drag radials and it won't matter at all.... awd is like a magical unicorn fuel that runs out when you have tire.
so ur saying just get some dr's and im good? lol
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:11 PM   #10
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I had a st2 STI....yeah...gonna take vht and dr's to take off like that...but you will catch him. Lotta shifting in a STI.
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My plan is to grab another STI for a daily next spring. Problem solved.
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:19 PM   #12
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Get tires then get a torque converter. You should be able to hold off his future mods with that.
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:40 PM   #13
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Get tires then get a torque converter. You should be able to hold off his future mods with that.
Get some 305/45R18 MT DR tires and some 18 x 9.5" wheels and a Circle D or FTI 3200 stall converter. These two mods with your other bolt ons have gone high 11's.
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:47 PM   #14
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Get some 305/45R18 MT DR tires and some 18 x 9.5" wheels and a Circle D or FTI 3200 stall converter. These two mods with your other bolt ons have gone high 11's.
Ok cool what about rear end gears? what is the main difference between 3.91 gears and 4.10s? those seem to be the most popular? and whats a good brand stall? FTI is the brand?
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I've owned a 20G turbod STI....they are ANIMALS. Weak point is pistons/seals at 400+WHP
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Ok cool what about rear end gears? what is the main difference between 3.91 gears and 4.10s? those seem to be the most popular? and whats a good brand stall? FTI is the brand?
Yes FTI is the brand. Gears would help as well but you have to have the tire I specified or better otherwise you will just be spinning and spinning aint winning. You will want to choose 3.70 or 3.91 gears. You will ONLY be able to use 3.91 gears IF you use a triple disk FTI or circle D converter. You will need to then have your tuner command lock up at WOT at the end of 4th gear. This will keep you from shifting into 5th. 3.70 gears will work for any converter but are more expensive. Basically you can choose to pay more for a high quality triple disk converter like a FTI or Circle D or have to pay more for 3.70 gears. Your choice, but I would go for the triple disk converter and 3.91 gears. You should also get a drag alignment done for the rear wheels. If you don't know what that is you need to look it up or PM Pedders. Will need to also get a great dyno and driving tune. I recommend ECS. ECS is in your neck of the woods there and they really know what it takes to send a car down the track fast.
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Those STI's are fast to make up for their ugly squared sedan body.
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I think the STi is a great looking car personally, not the newer ones, but from 04 to 07 the wide-bodies were killin it. OP, you should take him from a roll now as stated. If he gets to the point of swapping turbos and such, look out.
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I had a st2 STI....yeah...gonna take vht and dr's to take off like that...but you will catch him. Lotta shifting in a STI.

He doesn't need vht, I have beaten a full bolt on tuned Evo 9 from dig with just nt05r's and no burnout. It's dead even to 60 but walk away past that.

The OP has a faster Camaro then I do.
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He doesn't need vht, I have beaten a full bolt on tuned Evo 9 from dig with just nt05r's and no burnout. It's dead even to 60 but walk away past that.

The OP has a faster Camaro then I do.
Your car is a low 12 sec +110mph car ?
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Yeah, you will be killed from a dig but eventually catch up (over 100 MPH). A roll race from 30 MPH would be interesting though.
Like others said, a higher stall converter, DR's, and possibly 3.91 gears will cut your 60' time dramatically. Add a cam and your car becomes a beast. Then there's heads, forced induction, etc.....
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Old 11-07-2013, 05:42 AM   #22
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Your car is a low 12 sec +110mph car ?
there are autos that go low 12s with just bolt ons and drag radials ive seen one do a 12.3 with just that.
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Yeah, you will be killed from a dig but eventually catch up (over 100 MPH). A roll race from 30 MPH would be interesting though.
Like others said, a higher stall converter, DR's, and possibly 3.91 gears will cut your 60' time dramatically. Add a cam and your car becomes a beast. Then there's heads, forced induction, etc.....
yeah the stall and gears are probably next, the cam and FI i cant swing right now especially FI lol
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:29 AM   #24
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I say all this given info will help you win for sure! I would say run him the way you sit and see how it pans out! I like to jump or try and always out light awd cars. Be surprised at how the light will help
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my mods and hp are in my sig. my buddies 2013 STi put down 305whp and 275wtq on a mustang dyno. his mods are full turbo back exhaust, intake, and tune. who do you got? and should i race him from a roll or a dig?
Just raced one not that long ago and made a thread.

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Not sure if 2005 is a lot different but the guy I raced was claiming low 12's and 330awhp.

Wasnt impressed.
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