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Old 07-19-2009, 03:22 PM   #26
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First off, no one even gave the 3.8 track genesis coupe a chance. Yes, the ss does have a 114 hp advantage. It should be quicker, thats common sense. However some of the numbers for the Genesis coupe are wrong. I have seen numbers as low as 5.3-5.4 for the 0-60. Who says they wont be better with a quality driver? maybe 5.1-5.2? I have also heard of the genesis coupe running mid 13's in the 1/4. Not bad for a v6 Hyundai. I seen a few posts comparing the two in price. I could spend 31k for a fully loaded 3.8 track, for a fully loaded SS I am looking at over 40k. As for the looks of the car, I would have to pick the Hyundai Genesis hands down. Don't get me wrong, I love the camaro. I just believe that the Genesis has some really sleek curves, and has a really aggressive front end. The back end of the car tops it off. Now to the interior. Hands down, Hyundai wins again. I am sorry, but if you look inside of the new camaro the interior is bland as shit and looks cheap as hell. The Genesis has a nice interior and soon to be navi option inside the car. Has a pretty nice interior. I did notice another member was talking about the limited performance parts that will be available for the Genesis coupe. Wrong again, many companies right now are working on superchargers and turbo kits, as well as the basic bolt ons. One of the bigger named companies are Hennessey. Many people are over looking this car because its a Hyundai. Not a smart idea. This car has a lot of potential. I am hearing it can handle around 550 on the stock block. I'd take this car over many other cars on the road today. If I had to choose between the two, hands down its the genesis coupe, but the camaro is still pretty sick. When it comes down to it you have to ask yourself this, do I want the v8 or the v6?
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Old 07-19-2009, 03:25 PM   #27
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btw this car is very responsive to a basic tune and bolt ons. I have seen 40 hp+ gains on just a nice tune and exhaust. here are a few pics of a 3.8 track, kinda what I wanna do to mine when I get it this fall.
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The Hyundai Genesis does not compare to a Camaro ss. It barely beat the v6, and even then it came down to 1 or 2 points, which for me didn't matter. Many other cars compare with an ss, but a hyundai genesis is not one of them, It looks just like a acura rsx, not very stylish at all.
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Wow, it's amazing how misinformed some people are about the Genesis. I'm not saying it's better than the SS, but it's certainly not the joke that some posters are making it out to be. I'm assuming 99% of them haven't even seen one in person, much less driven one before.
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Wow, it's amazing how misinformed some people are about the Genesis.
I agree. Kinda funny how some people can be so ignorant. People really need to get past the "It's a Hyundai" factor. I don't care what it beat. The matter is, is that it beat the v6 camaro, in which is the same in horsepower numbers. People need to stop saying "It barely beat it", no one cares, a win is a win. Way too many fan boys of one certain type of car.
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Must be a lot of "buyers remorse" topics over on the genesis forums. I can't imagine any other reason for so many of them to come here and try and pick fights with a clearly superior vehicle.
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I agree. Kinda funny how some people can be so ignorant. People really need to get past the "It's a Hyundai" factor. I don't care what it beat. The matter is, is that it beat the v6 camaro, in which is the same in horsepower numbers. People need to stop saying "It barely beat it", no one cares, a win is a win. Way too many fan boys of one certain type of car.
Way too many fan boys of Camaros on a camaro forum? What is the world coming to? And 580 rwhp on a 3.8L Hyundai engine? That is probably running race fuel and I doubt it would last 10,000 miles, so I don't think the "it hasn't broken yet" argument really holds any water when talking about durability.

To talk about aftermarket parts, how many choices in cams do you have, how many different heads can you buy, how many stroker crankshafts can you buy, how many aftermarket intakes, exhausts, etc. can you buy for the Hyundai? Not very many, so some $10k turbo kit to turn your Hyundai engine into a pile of parts within 20,000 miles doesn't seem like a very good option to me. If you like Hyundai's, that is your choice, I am sure they must have some forums for them; but it is pathetic to come on a Camaro forum talking about how great a Hyundai is.
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I would have to disagree with this. The Aftermarket right now for the Genn coupe is huge, and steadily growing. Remember, this car had a head start in Korea well before it hit the states. I would dare say that there are more aftermarket parts available for the Genn Coupe than the Camaro right now.

The Top Genn Coupe btw has leather, bluetooth, hmm actually everything the 2SS has..right down to the bembro brakes. Just lacking in the N/A power dept really....

As far as which will be worth more ? Hard to say really...I mean if we use 3rd or 4th Gen Camaro's as a example...
Well, considering there are 10, 20, 30, and 40 year old camaros being driven, restored, etc., and I have never seen a Hyundai running or worth anything any older than about 8 years, I think I will give the edge to the Camaro. Not sure what point you were trying to make about how much a 20 year old Camaro costs? LOL, find me a 20 year old Hyundai.
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Please try to cool off a little, folks. No reason to get agitated...just remember one thing -- this is a Camaro-oriented forum. An easy reminder is the sections name "CHEVY CAMARO vs...*no name entered*. That's not to say we don't want you to discuss other vehicles. The creation of this section, and the "Other cars" section proves otherwise.

Just understand that most members here (including myself) will elevate the Camaro in a draw outcome, or even a loss...get over it.....

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Well, considering there are 10, 20, 30, and 40 year old camaros being driven, restored, etc., and I have never seen a Hyundai running or worth anything any older than about 8 years, I think I will give the edge to the Camaro. Not sure what point you were trying to make about how much a 20 year old Camaro costs? LOL, find me a 20 year old Hyundai.
Then you will know why I made the comment. This is Hyundai first foray into a performance model I think they did a good job first time out.

You may also want to visit a few web sites on performance parts. There is a lot of options on everything you mention. But its obvious you feel that the car does not have anything going for it. So you dismiss it with a thought, but you are lacking some serious info on this car.

As the Genn coupe goes, it is still out to see how far down the line it goes. For now its doing well. Quite well. Remember, there is more than just the american car market
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Please try to cool off a little, folks. No reason to get agitated...just remember one thing -- this is a Camaro-oriented forum. An easy reminder is the sections name "CHEVY CAMARO vs...*no name entered*. That's not to say we don't want you to discuss other vehicles. The creation of this section, and the "Other cars" section proves otherwise.

Just understand that most members here (including myself) will elevate the Camaro in a draw outcome, or even a loss...get over it.....

Make sure to remind folks that SUBJECTIVE comparisons like "My Genesis looks more badass!" and "Genesis is way sleeker!" are not really going to earn any respect here.
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First off, no one even gave the 3.8 track genesis coupe a chance. Yes, the ss does have a 114 hp advantage. It should be quicker, thats common sense. However some of the numbers for the Genesis coupe are wrong. I have seen numbers as low as 5.3-5.4 for the 0-60. Who says they wont be better with a quality driver? maybe 5.1-5.2? I have also heard of the genesis coupe running mid 13's in the 1/4. Not bad for a v6 Hyundai. I seen a few posts comparing the two in price. I could spend 31k for a fully loaded 3.8 track, for a fully loaded SS I am looking at over 40k.
I'm sorry but you sound like you're trying to make the Genesis Coupe sound better than it is. They spec'd it against the Ford Mustang GT. Great car to benchmark if you're making an affordable RWD 2+2 but the Hyundai engineers did not focus on outperforming it like those at GM did. They went to give it better fuel economy, a better interior, better handling, and probably fit&finish/build quality. To meet the price point of the Mustang and all those other objectives, they had to sacrafice acceleration. But as I understand it, we are talking about price and performance of the 1SS vs Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track

If the magazine tests are getting 5.7-6.0, I don't care if you're the greatest driver in the world, the same car will not do 5.1s. I've also seen mid 6's for 0-60 and I ignored those as well. If you want to go and use the absolute best possible for 1 car, use it for both cars. If so, the Camaro does 0-60 in 4.5s and the 1/4 in 12.7@ 112 mph. Either way, the SS vastly out performs the Genesis in a straight line and is right on its heels in the turns. Take the two to any track and the Camaro should win.

You said "Not bad for a v6 Hyundai." I'll give you that, because it is true. However, for a car to be a serious contender, the qualifiers have to be removed or relate so some standard of excellence. Fast for a Porsche means a whole lot more than fast for a Hyundai. Likewise, a good interior for a Chevy is a whole lot different than a good interior for an Audi. To put it another way, Hyundai Genesis is not at the top of any lists when it comes to cars with a "fast V6" just like the Camaro doesn't spring to mind when mentioning "Great interior".

As for pricing, I went to Hyundai.com and Chevrolet.com. The 3.8 Track starts at $30 250. The 1SS starts at $31 040. If you want to compare loaded models, things get a bit silly. Who wants a loaded 1SS? But anyways ... it becomes $31 750 vs $40 000 even for a loaded 1SS. That includes striping, sunroof, GFX, body coloured engine cover, upgraded stero, rally sport package, automatic transmission, car cover. Everything except for premium paint and different wheels. The only optional equipment that I saw on the 3.8 Track is the choice of a $1500 automatic transmission. So, there really is no 'loaded 3.8 Track', there is manual or automatic. In which case, the automatic 1SS is within $300 of the auto 3.8 Track. It doesn't get much closer than that for two competing cars.
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Does the camaro or genesis, have a cable?, or a computer sensor for the gas pedal?...i find computer sensors quite frustrating...the computer sensor in my moms cobalt is untolerable in comparison to my taurus' cable pedal...
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I'm sorry but you sound like you're trying to make the Genesis Coupe sound better than it is. They spec'd it against the Ford Mustang GT. Great car to benchmark if you're making an affordable RWD 2+2 but the Hyundai engineers did not focus on outperforming it like those at GM did. They went to give it better fuel economy, a better interior, better handling, and probably fit&finish/build quality. To meet the price point of the Mustang and all those other objectives, they had to sacrafice acceleration. But as I understand it, we are talking about price and performance of the 1SS vs Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track

If the magazine tests are getting 5.7-6.0, I don't care if you're the greatest driver in the world, the same car will not do 5.1s. I've also seen mid 6's for 0-60 and I ignored those as well. If you want to go and use the absolute best possible for 1 car, use it for both cars. If so, the Camaro does 0-60 in 4.5s and the 1/4 in 12.7@ 112 mph. Either way, the SS vastly out performs the Genesis in a straight line and is right on its heels in the turns. Take the two to any track and the Camaro should win.

You said "Not bad for a v6 Hyundai." I'll give you that, because it is true. However, for a car to be a serious contender, the qualifiers have to be removed or relate so some standard of excellence. Fast for a Porsche means a whole lot more than fast for a Hyundai. Likewise, a good interior for a Chevy is a whole lot different than a good interior for an Audi. To put it another way, Hyundai Genesis is not at the top of any lists when it comes to cars with a "fast V6" just like the Camaro doesn't spring to mind when mentioning "Great interior".

As for pricing, I went to Hyundai.com and Chevrolet.com. The 3.8 Track starts at $30 250. The 1SS starts at $31 040. If you want to compare loaded models, things get a bit silly. Who wants a loaded 1SS? But anyways ... it becomes $31 750 vs $40 000 even for a loaded 1SS. That includes striping, sunroof, GFX, body coloured engine cover, upgraded stero, rally sport package, automatic transmission, car cover. Everything except for premium paint and different wheels. The only optional equipment that I saw on the 3.8 Track is the choice of a $1500 automatic transmission. So, there really is no 'loaded 3.8 Track', there is manual or automatic. In which case, the automatic 1SS is within $300 of the auto 3.8 Track. It doesn't get much closer than that for two competing cars.
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Does the camaro or genesis, have a cable?, or a computer sensor for the gas pedal?...i find computer sensors quite frustrating...the computer sensor in my moms cobalt is untolerable in comparison to my taurus' cable pedal...
Everything is going "drive-by-wire" (computer sensor). I know what you mean with the Cobalt...it's a little "loose" when it comes to responsiveness. But I wouldn't consider it intolerable.

Anyways, cars like the Camaro, Corvette, and even the Genesis will have the throttle response tuned to be sporty. So no worries.
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Everything is going "drive-by-wire" (computer sensor). I know what you mean with the Cobalt...it's a little "loose" when it comes to responsiveness. But I wouldn't consider it intolerable.

Anyways, cars like the Camaro, Corvette, and even the Genesis will have the throttle response tuned to be sporty. So no worries.
And you can always re-tune them to be even sportier
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I'm sorry but you sound like you're trying to make the Genesis Coupe sound better than it is. They spec'd it against the Ford Mustang GT. Great car to benchmark if you're making an affordable RWD 2+2 but the Hyundai engineers did not focus on outperforming it like those at GM did. They went to give it better fuel economy, a better interior, better handling, and probably fit&finish/build quality. To meet the price point of the Mustang and all those other objectives, they had to sacrafice acceleration. But as I understand it, we are talking about price and performance of the 1SS vs Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track

If the magazine tests are getting 5.7-6.0, I don't care if you're the greatest driver in the world, the same car will not do 5.1s. I've also seen mid 6's for 0-60 and I ignored those as well. If you want to go and use the absolute best possible for 1 car, use it for both cars. If so, the Camaro does 0-60 in 4.5s and the 1/4 in 12.7@ 112 mph. Either way, the SS vastly out performs the Genesis in a straight line and is right on its heels in the turns. Take the two to any track and the Camaro should win.

You said "Not bad for a v6 Hyundai." I'll give you that, because it is true. However, for a car to be a serious contender, the qualifiers have to be removed or relate so some standard of excellence. Fast for a Porsche means a whole lot more than fast for a Hyundai. Likewise, a good interior for a Chevy is a whole lot different than a good interior for an Audi. To put it another way, Hyundai Genesis is not at the top of any lists when it comes to cars with a "fast V6" just like the Camaro doesn't spring to mind when mentioning "Great interior".

As for pricing, I went to Hyundai.com and Chevrolet.com. The 3.8 Track starts at $30 250. The 1SS starts at $31 040. If you want to compare loaded models, things get a bit silly. Who wants a loaded 1SS? But anyways ... it becomes $31 750 vs $40 000 even for a loaded 1SS. That includes striping, sunroof, GFX, body coloured engine cover, upgraded stero, rally sport package, automatic transmission, car cover. Everything except for premium paint and different wheels. The only optional equipment that I saw on the 3.8 Track is the choice of a $1500 automatic transmission. So, there really is no 'loaded 3.8 Track', there is manual or automatic. In which case, the automatic 1SS is within $300 of the auto 3.8 Track. It doesn't get much closer than that for two competing cars.
5.7-6.0 0-60?

The only site that got those numbers was Edmunds, who refused to launch the car for some reason. Every other mag has gotten numbers in the 5.3-5.6 range. Still not faster than the SS I know, but right where it needs to be to compete with the G37's of the world which was it's intended purpose to begin with.
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I don't get it, the genesis coupe is not bad looking... but.... it looks like a pokemon to me from the front....
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I agree. Kinda funny how some people can be so ignorant. People really need to get past the "It's a Hyundai" factor. I don't care what it beat. The matter is, is that it beat the v6 camaro, in which is the same in horsepower numbers. People need to stop saying "It barely beat it", no one cares, a win is a win. Way too many fan boys of one certain type of car.
Beating a V6 Camaro is nothing to be proud of. Its no better than beating a V6 Mustang or a V6 Challenger. The 6 cylinder versions of all those cars are maintream base models. For 31K, the Genesis can only hang with a $23K Camaro. They appeal to people who generally aren't as interested in performance as the ones who buy the V8 model. So for almost the same amount of money, you can have a V6 Hyundai or a V8 Camaro. Thats a no brainer. Especially considering Hyundai's extremely shady track record of crappy powertrains, poor build quality, and horrible resale value. In fact, I think the majority of Hyundais and Kias often don't make it to the point of being resold before they fall apart, so resale value may not even be a factor for many owners.
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Since I have owned 3 Hyundais I will weigh in.

2001 Hyundai XG300L (Hyundai's first Nice car)-- It was real nice, but resale was horrible, powertrain and bumper to bumper stuff was no problem. a few tiny things but that is it. (It was actually stolen from me)--- I know who would steal a Hyundai right.. but trust me it looked real nice. Nice tint, Nice aftermarket chrome wheels, a nice custom stereo system. I always kept it immaculate looking.)----

2000- Tiburon ( 5-speed)--- actually had before the previous car.
To what it was meant to be compared to, it was a great little car, Civic, Celica, all the other 4 bangers with a hint of sportiness. - No problems with it, Liked it.

2005 Hyundai XG350L (basically the same care as the first car) a small face lift, and .5 larger engine-- style is a bit tired at this point- car has ran great so far- only had one service call (warranty) in 3.5 years of owning it. It was a sensor. Resale is absolutely horrible though.

But with all that said, No way would I compare those cars to a Camaro- Herritage, style, power, iconic...

Now that I have my G8 GT-- I hate driving the XG350L- We only have one set of car seats, and I hate taking them in and out, so we end up driving the XG more than I would like. But God, have I realized just how boring and blah the Hyundai is to drive.

So cliff notes-- Hyundai's reliability isn't the issue. Its the blah factor, and it has it.

The new Genesis and G. Coupe have helped some with that, but they don't have typical Hyundai pricing either.
A fully loaded Genesis coupe is over 40K-- are you kidding me? No thanks
the Coupe is over 30K- no thanks.
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As for pricing, I went to Hyundai.com and Chevrolet.com. The 3.8 Track starts at $30 250. The 1SS starts at $31 040. If you want to compare loaded models, things get a bit silly. Who wants a loaded 1SS? But anyways ... it becomes $31 750 vs $40 000 even for a loaded 1SS. That includes striping, sunroof, GFX, body coloured engine cover, upgraded stero, rally sport package, automatic transmission, car cover. Everything except for premium paint and different wheels. The only optional equipment that I saw on the 3.8 Track is the choice of a $1500 automatic transmission. So, there really is no 'loaded 3.8 Track', there is manual or automatic. In which case, the automatic 1SS is within $300 of the auto 3.8 Track. It doesn't get much closer than that for two competing cars.
Thats because the Gen Coupe has all the options in the Camaro already "loaded" in the base price 3.8 Track model. The only option is a $1500 auto.

All the "options" in the Camaro, are standard on the 3.8 Track model.
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I don't get it, the genesis coupe is not bad looking... but.... it looks like a pokemon to me from the front....
I find this entire thread very interesting to say the least. I can't imagine anyone wanting a genesis coupe over a Camaro SS. I just can't even imagine it.
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5.7-6.0 0-60?

The only site that got those numbers was Edmunds, who refused to launch the car for some reason. Every other mag has gotten numbers in the 5.3-5.6 range. Still not faster than the SS I know, but right where it needs to be to compete with the G37's of the world which was it's intended purpose to begin with.
And Car and Driver, and Motor Trend. The fastest I have seen a magazine do was 5.5, and that was Motor Trend. Edmunds did not get 5.7 before the re-flash, they had 6.4 (6.1 with 1ft roll out) before. Others were right around 6.0, give or take a tenth.

If it makes everyone feel more comfortable, I will conceed that the Gen Coupe isn't 5.7-60, its more like 5.5-5.8s, while the Camaro is 4.7-5.0s. Is everyone OK with that? Or what if I word it another way ... the Camaro is roughly 0.8s faster to 60 than the genesis coupe is.
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