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Old 07-17-2009, 05:43 PM   #26
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Trick on cars with very good stock front brakes already is to keep the calipers from the front and move them to the rear with appropiately sized rotors.
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:01 PM   #27
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Yeah just like in the other thread. Still ridiculously over-priced and unnecessary upgrade for the street. The stock Brembos are fine. Add steel braided brake lines if you want a tighter feel to the brake pedal and the stock Brembos are more than good for the street.

For $7+k you can get a CAI, headers, exhaust, tune, custom rims and get much more bang for your buck.
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:03 PM   #28
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Or just bolt on a blower
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:29 PM   #29
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Yeah just like in the other thread. Still ridiculously over-priced and unnecessary upgrade for the street. The stock Brembos are fine. Add steel braided brake lines if you want a tighter feel to the brake pedal and the stock Brembos are more than good for the street.

For $7+k you can get a CAI, headers, exhaust, tune, custom rims and get much more bang for your buck.
Very true, but don't just think of the price. It isn't cheap, but then neither is the quality of these brakes. There are a lot of things different from this kit than the stock kit, they're not just bigger. And bigger as they are, they weigh the same or less than the stock kit too. Not all brakes are made the same, and just because they say Brembo, doesn't mean they're all just as good as all other Brembo's. This kit is designed for racing purposes. I'm not getting Pfadt coil-overs, sways and bushings because I plan to have the best handling car during my 6 mile trip to work!! The same reason I didn't put this brake kit on to have the best stopping car on the same trip. I do plan to do some autocrossing in this car, and when I do, I'll be ready

To Matt'sSS's point, that would be a pretty good idea to swap the front to the rear, I wonder if it would bolt right up though. If it doesn't then there's no point as the rear brakes are already pretty strong.
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upgrading the brembos to.... brembos?
I ordered mine December 2008, took seven months. It's worth the wait, take a deep breath. You will enjoy more when you get it.
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:55 PM   #31
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To Matt'sSS's point, that would be a pretty good idea to swap the front to the rear, I wonder if it would bolt right up though. If it doesn't then there's no point as the rear brakes are already pretty strong.
Not necessarily, but it's very easy to fab a bracket, if it's a common upgrade you can probably find shops that make them & sell them.

There's other less expensive tricks too... I think it was Baer that made a line of upgrades to larger quality hat & floating rotor setups by using brackets to move your caliper to the appropriate place. More surface area on the rotor helps too.
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Old 07-17-2009, 07:46 PM   #32
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Not necessarily, but it's very easy to fab a bracket, if it's a common upgrade you can probably find shops that make them & sell them.

There's other less expensive tricks too... I think it was Baer that made a line of upgrades to larger quality hat & floating rotor setups by using brackets to move your caliper to the appropriate place. More surface area on the rotor helps too.
Yea definitely. Surface area is probably one of the most important things about a good system. The only reason I said that if the front doesn't bolt right up to the rear that it might not be worth it is because in this case the front and rear calipers and rotors are so close in performance and specs that it might not be worth the time or effort to fabricate a bracket. If you had a system that had a 4 piston front and 2 piston rear then it would definitely be worth it. Either way I am very happy with this kit and I know I will be using it how it's meant to be used, maybe not to it's fullest capabilities, but definitely going to put it through its paces
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:43 PM   #33
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Just get 3 of your closest (& preferably shortest ) friends with you for a ride & brake check everyone to a dead stop at absolutely every opportunity you have!

Keep doing it till someone looses a contact! Just make sure no one has eaten anything all day or was binge drinking the night before

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Old 07-17-2009, 10:44 PM   #34
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Or actually, a perfectly viable alternative would be to just drive around in Miami
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Old 07-18-2009, 10:06 AM   #35
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I must have missed the pics......
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Old 07-18-2009, 10:08 AM   #36
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Old 07-18-2009, 06:23 PM   #37
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Havent missed pics yet, gonna take some in just a bit, haven't had a chance to wash it yet. They'll be up today!
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Old 07-18-2009, 10:54 PM   #38
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I agree on the pics.

PS just to throw in my 2 cents... I have autocrossed for 10 years + and was Chief of Tech for 6 + years in my region (aside from tons of other racing experience), if you need brakes like this vs the stock SS ones to Autocross, you're doin something wrong. Aside from the fact these would immediately take you out of Stock class, putting you at a disadvantage if you don't start doing more mods to your car (assuming you plan on winning anything, which i see no other reason to race ).
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I agree on the pics.

PS just to throw in my 2 cents... I have autocrossed for 10 years + and was Chief of Tech for 6 + years in my region (aside from tons of other racing experience), if you need brakes like this vs the stock SS ones to Autocross, you're doin something wrong. Aside from the fact these would immediately take you out of Stock class, putting you at a disadvantage if you don't start doing more mods to your car (assuming you plan on winning anything, which i see no other reason to race ).
Agreed, i have mainly installed this kit on my car for show purposes. I do plan to do some autocrossing, but i dont plan to compete seriously.
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I took pics on Saturday, haven't gotten them back yet from my friend who's camera I borrowed. I promise I will have pics up today. I am so sorry for the wait everyone. It was a crazy week followed by a busy weekend.
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And for those talking about the price of this kit being too high, remember, this is a GT (basically a race kit) designed for track use. If you want the look and feel of these calipers, but don't plan on doing heavy track racing, there is a viable alternative as a friend of mine pointed out in another thread:

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Latest news from Brembo and Race Technologies...

The new Camaro "caliper only" upgrades are ready! You can order them with red or yellow or silver or black calipers at no extra charge. The upgrades fit the Camaro SS.

These are 6-piston Monoblock front calipers and 4-piston Monoblock rear calipers to be used with the stock brake discs. The calipers come with the Ferodo FM1000 high performance brake pads and we also include Goodridge stainless steel brake lines and caliper mounting hardware.

These upgrades are a great low cost alternative to the full Brembo GT systems using the same Monoblock calipers and pads.

Retail for the front system is only $1995.
Retail for the rear system is only $1795.
Keep this in mind too
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:15 PM   #48
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If these are the ones Brembo was talking about in another thread it's about $7k for this "upgrade". Are you planning on road racing the car?
I would hope to think....
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Congrats on having enough money to upgrade your ride to this system, my wife would kill me. Thank God the Camaro 2SS already comes with Brembos.



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I agree on the pics.

PS just to throw in my 2 cents... I have autocrossed for 10 years + and was Chief of Tech for 6 + years in my region (aside from tons of other racing experience), if you need brakes like this vs the stock SS ones to Autocross, you're doin something wrong. Aside from the fact these would immediately take you out of Stock class, putting you at a disadvantage if you don't start doing more mods to your car (assuming you plan on winning anything, which i see no other reason to race ).
Rogue, I agree that this brake setup is a bit over the top for anyone less than all-out racers, but check out this thread over in the Road Course/Driving Techniques forum:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=17

Brian claimed he took his SS to the track last week for a few test sessions, and totally lost the brakes his second session in. The car was a week old. Then he flushed the fluid, went out again, and only lasted three sessions before the brakes gave out again.

Plenty of us attend HPDE track days, and the last thing you want is to be worrying about brake management. I figured with the stock Brembos, the SS would be track-ready right off the showroom floor, but now it seems you at least have to upgrade to high-temp DOT 4 brake fluid. I'm sure we'll learn more as others take their cars to the track.

BTW, my brakes almost went to the floor this past Monday at Watkins Glen, when I was braking HARD from 130 mph down to about 90 for the "Bus Stop" at the end of the back straight. And I went to the track with fresh fluid and HPS pads. Not a good feeling. Next time, I'll use the ATE Super Blue fluid.

Here's a lap at the Glen when the brakes were okay:

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