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Old 07-21-2009, 04:40 PM   #51
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Wait..... How much for brakes????
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Wait..... How much for brakes????
Pricing info is in first post. please check below the photos in the first post for info on the Brembo upgrade kit as opposed to the full GT kit. Thanks.
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Whats the weight difference in the stock Brembo and the aftermarkets? Bigger everything has to mean more weight?
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very cool look.
Thank you! And sorry everyone for taking so long to get pics up. Go ahead and say whats on your mind I am actually sitting at home eating chicken noodle soup right now with a 103 degree fever, but I know how much people were looking forward to seeing these pics
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Whats the weight difference in the stock Brembo and the aftermarkets? Bigger everything has to mean more weight?
I don't know off the top pf my head but I can get that info for you. Bigger doesn't necessarily mean more weight. Everything in this kit is made with better materials and is built more efficiently. The calipers are only one piece instead of two like the stock calipers, all excess metal on the calipers is cut away which is why the pistons are so defined on the outside, and 2 piece lightweight rotors all help to keep the overall weight down. I will post the actual weight when I get that info. Thanks.
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Wow looks awesome. Price is way too high I was thinking of upgrading to a C6 Z's front rotors and calipers if I ever replaced the brakes. Does anything else in the system get replaced? (brake lines, master cylinder?) and why only pics of the front? The rears are not done?
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Looks nice. Let us know how they work out. Hopefully now Brembo can work on fixxing the stock brakes. I was looking at a brand new and it had the weights.
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I can't believe I'll be the first to say this. This is complete B.S!! I thought when you got Brembo's on a car, they were the upgraded brakes.

So the "Brembos" that come on the 2SS are just basic brakes with the Brembo name on them? So if you want "real" Brembos then you already have to upgrade. These should have been the brakes that came on the 2SS to begin with, this is bullshit!!! Brembo can suck it!

If I'm going to spend money to upgrade I'm not getting Brembos!!
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Those look absolutely awesome! How well do they work compared to stock?
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I can't believe I'll be the first to say this. This is complete B.S!! I thought when you got Brembo's on a car, they were the upgraded brakes.

So the "Brembos" that come on the 2SS are just basic brakes with the Brembo name on them? So if you want "real" Brembos then you already have to upgrade. These should have been the brakes that came on the 2SS to begin with, this is bullshit!!! Brembo can suck it!

If I'm going to spend money to upgrade I'm not getting Brembos!!
I'm completely with you! I understand that folks will upgrade cars that are already awesome from the factory just because they can or they want to, and I have absolutely no problem with that. But you shouldn't NEED to upgrade, especially when the car is marketed as having "Brembo" brakes. That is THE name in brakes after all...

So I was totally shocked when NASA road racer Brian wrote in another thread how the brakes in his 1-week old SS gave out after just one stint on a road course. He replied that the fluid boiled, and he thinks that anyone taking these cars to the track might want to install brake ducts for cooling.
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Does anyone know if the SS original brembos bolt on the LT or does it require to change the hub assy and the master cylinder?
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those do look great...but I couldn't put 7500 into brakes..but more power to you if you can
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I'm completely with you! I understand that folks will upgrade cars that are already awesome from the factory just because they can or they want to, and I have absolutely no problem with that. But you shouldn't NEED to upgrade, especially when the car is marketed as having "Brembo" brakes. That is THE name in brakes after all...

So I was totally shocked when NASA road racer Brian wrote in another thread how the brakes in his 1-week old SS gave out after just one stint on a road course. He replied that the fluid boiled, and he thinks that anyone taking these cars to the track might want to install brake ducts for cooling.
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Ok, let's see a show of hands who wants to pay the extra 7500 on a STOCK Camaro SS for these brakes to be standard.....

It's a balancing game people. Just like your Mustang didn't come with brakes built for roadracing, neither does the Camaro.
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:34 PM   #68
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I can't believe I'll be the first to say this. This is complete B.S!! I thought when you got Brembo's on a car, they were the upgraded brakes.

So the "Brembos" that come on the 2SS are just basic brakes with the Brembo name on them? So if you want "real" Brembos then you already have to upgrade. These should have been the brakes that came on the 2SS to begin with, this is bullshit!!! Brembo can suck it!

If I'm going to spend money to upgrade I'm not getting Brembos!!
You realize when you buy a Dodge Viper at roughly $90k+, that it comes with 4 piston Brembo calipers front and rear and 14" rotors front and rear. And what comes on the Camaro SS again??

And if the Dodge Viper owners want to track their cars, they have 6 piston upgrade big brake kits and rotors to purchase as well. For most any sports car, 4 piston calipers and 13"+ rotors are plenty for street/daily use. Track use is a completely different animal.
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I can't believe I'll be the first to say this. This is complete B.S!! I thought when you got Brembo's on a car, they were the upgraded brakes.

So the "Brembos" that come on the 2SS are just basic brakes with the Brembo name on them? So if you want "real" Brembos then you already have to upgrade. These should have been the brakes that came on the 2SS to begin with, this is bullshit!!! Brembo can suck it!

If I'm going to spend money to upgrade I'm not getting Brembos!!
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I'm completely with you! I understand that folks will upgrade cars that are already awesome from the factory just because they can or they want to, and I have absolutely no problem with that. But you shouldn't NEED to upgrade, especially when the car is marketed as having "Brembo" brakes. That is THE name in brakes after all...

So I was totally shocked when NASA road racer Brian wrote in another thread how the brakes in his 1-week old SS gave out after just one stint on a road course. He replied that the fluid boiled, and he thinks that anyone taking these cars to the track might want to install brake ducts for cooling.
See the other replies before me. Freaking out cause someone boiled STREET FLUID while racing his car is pretty funny. Thats the reason he lost his brakes, not cause the calipers are not up to snuff. If you are tracking this car, flushing out the system and putting in some superblue is a requirement, and takes what, an hour if you have a bleeder? How much is a can of superblue ...15 bucks? Christ.

This is a street car, and just like they recommend in the manual to change the diff fluid if you plan to race, brake fluid should be a no brainer. These brakes will work GREAT for HPDEs with good pads and a fluid change, they will last perfectly fine. That said if you are road racing, and I mean real road racing, you need a road racing kit. Unless you want a $50,000 Camaro, no street car under a 911 GT3 comes with brakes like the kit installed here, and you should never have expected it to begin with.
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$8000 is a crazy $$$ for an upgraded brakes setup. But you would think the stock SS brakes would get the job done good enough.

Waiting to see what other 3rd parties put out for the 2010 Camaro. Hopefully (much more) affordable and just as high performance.

I have 4 wheel SSBC Brakes on my 69 and the difference is amazing. I'll have to see if they are working on a set for the 2010.
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Just a note, everyone is focusing on the $8k price tag for this kit, everyone seems to be missing the Brembo upgrade kit also listed in this thread. The cost for that kit is a little under $4k. That is a viable alternative to get you a great set up with better than stock performance out of the box. Maybe you just want to upgrade the fronts, then you're looking at just $2k. Its up to the individual driver based on what they plan on doing with their car. I like to be prepared

Someone asked why no pics of the rear. The rear kit is completed by Brembo but i have not picked it up yet because I wanted to see how these were going to look and feel first. They feel great by the way, completely solid. Not that the stockers weren't, but these are in a league of their own!

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I agree on the pics.

PS just to throw in my 2 cents... I have autocrossed for 10 years + and was Chief of Tech for 6 + years in my region (aside from tons of other racing experience), if you need brakes like this vs the stock SS ones to Autocross, you're doin something wrong. Aside from the fact these would immediately take you out of Stock class, putting you at a disadvantage if you don't start doing more mods to your car (assuming you plan on winning anything, which i see no other reason to race ).
No one makes 20" r-compound tires yet anyway, so stock class is a lost cause.
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Rogue, I agree that this brake setup is a bit over the top for anyone less than all-out racers, but check out this thread over in the Road Course/Driving Techniques forum:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=17

Brian claimed he took his SS to the track last week for a few test sessions, and totally lost the brakes his second session in. The car was a week old. Then he flushed the fluid, went out again, and only lasted three sessions before the brakes gave out again.

Plenty of us attend HPDE track days, and the last thing you want is to be worrying about brake management. I figured with the stock Brembos, the SS would be track-ready right off the showroom floor, but now it seems you at least have to upgrade to high-temp DOT 4 brake fluid. I'm sure we'll learn more as others take their cars to the track.

BTW, my brakes almost went to the floor this past Monday at Watkins Glen, when I was braking HARD from 130 mph down to about 90 for the "Bus Stop" at the end of the back straight. And I went to the track with fresh fluid and HPS pads. Not a good feeling. Next time, I'll use the ATE Super Blue fluid.

Here's a lap at the Glen when the brakes were okay:

HPS pads really aren't made for track days, but I imagine you could make them live for a little while. Maybe a different Hawk pad just for the front at a HPDE would be a good idea? ATE Super Blue is good stuff! There's even a place in my area that stocks it. Thanks for the vid.
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No one makes 20" r-compound tires yet anyway, so stock class is a lost cause.
Yeah but if motivated theres probably a set of 19s or even 18s that will fit around those brakes, I don't know of anyone whos done it yet, but its very possible.
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