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Old 03-25-2014, 02:40 PM   #51
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so have you already done a drop? was it the 1.4 front , 1 rear ? pics if so please. sorry if theyre in the thread, im just overall confused who has what drop
No, PSJ's car is stock ride height there in the picture. We typically offer a "raked" spring package which has 1.4" front springs and 1.0" rear springs. However, John is talking about reversing that and getting 1.4's for the rear and 1.0's on the front to level it out. Which I think would probably work well for him in this case. But we have not done a test fitment with a "reverse" set-up like that, so the end result would be questionable at this point. We also offer a 1.2" rear drop spring for the V-6, which will fit on the V-8 car as well, but it has a 430 lb. spring rate vs. the 460 lb. spring rate on the 1.4" spring. So either way, I think they would end up being about equal, maybe the 1.2" spring being ever so slightly taller.
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Old 03-25-2014, 02:44 PM   #52
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Hey Keith, 1.0 up front works, but I really want to bring the back down so more than a 1.0 drop in back is my goal. So are you saying that the 1.2 V6 and the 1.4 rear V8 might end up being about the same?
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Old 03-25-2014, 03:09 PM   #53
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Hey Keith, 1.0 up front works, but I really want to bring the back down so more than a 1.0 drop in back is my goal. So are you saying that the 1.2 V6 and the 1.4 rear V8 might end up being about the same?
Yeah, I think they would be very close. With the 1.2 spring having the lower spring rate (designed for the V-6), I think it would probably compress to the point of being close to the same height as the 1.4 spring. The spring rate difference is only 30 lbs., and 0.2" is a very small difference in ride height, so in my opinion, I think they would be close to the same end result.
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:28 PM   #54
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I'm almost ready, I want to take some more measurements once I put my 18's back on.

I REALLY like the stance of Colt's car, that would be ideal.
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Old 03-26-2014, 01:23 PM   #55
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So I have a question about lowering my 1LE. Pedders used to suggest their 1 inch lowering springs for the rear plus their 1LE permagrin package. I dont know anybody, nor have I seen pics of a 1LE with a 1" drop in the back only. Will this end up giving me a level look or will the rear maybe be too low? Also how do the BMR 1" rear drop spring rates compare to the stock 1LE rear spring rates? I am hoping that the 1" drop wont affect the ride quality too much as well.
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Old 03-28-2014, 07:41 PM   #56
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So still no choices of rear springs to lower the gap by 0.5''inch more then the front?
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Old 03-29-2014, 11:33 PM   #57
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I have not lowered the car yet.
I think these are the springs you seek.

http://www.lsrperformance.com/lsr-st...g-springs.html

More drop in the rear, than the front.

I'm trying to find out the spring rates.
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Old 04-09-2014, 08:38 PM   #58
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BMR Springs? 1.4"/1"

Bump, still thinking (and being indecisive).

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Old 04-23-2014, 10:37 PM   #59
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Bump, still thinking (and being indecisive).

So what did you decide?
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Nothing yet - Though I like the stance of that one red Camaro who posted earlier.
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:50 PM   #61
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If you track the car, and take rake out of the car for looks, it will by nature introduce more understeer.
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:53 PM   #62
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Old 06-27-2014, 03:42 PM   #63
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There you go PSJ. 1 front 1.4 rear BMR set-up...20x10 all around with 275/40 tires.
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Old 06-27-2014, 03:43 PM   #64
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Old 06-27-2014, 04:08 PM   #65
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Thanks for sharing!
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If it helps at all, 1.4" front and rear.
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Old 06-27-2014, 09:55 PM   #67
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1.4" front and back, stock 20" tires -





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What is the measurement from ground to the center bottom edge of the wheel well when running the stock wheels and tires on a set of 1.4" BMRs? I have Pfadt springs and am at exactly 28 1/4" in the front and 28 3/8" in the rear.
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No one has a yard stick???
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What is the measurement from ground to the center bottom edge of the wheel well when running the stock wheels and tires on a set of 1.4" BMRs? I have Pfadt springs and am at exactly 28 1/4" in the front and 28 3/8" in the rear.
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thanks a bunch, Krajkerjac.

So you installed almost 2 weeks ago. Mine have been in about 1 yr and 6000mi. The Pfadt were labeled as 1.25" drop all around, but I am lower now than even your fresh 1.4" all around drop. If that is due to settling, and will potentially happen to you, then you are gonna be slammed in the front.

BMR guys...does everyone agree that there is some settling involved with all springs?

Don't get me wrong...I LOVE the look of a lowered Camaro..L-O-V-E...but I can't go lower...the ride, the roads, my lift arms, the front splitter...I am totally at the limit.
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thanks a bunch, Krajkerjac.

So you installed almost 2 weeks ago. Mine have been in about 1 yr and 6000mi. The Pfadt were labeled as 1.25" drop all around, but I am lower now than even your fresh 1.4" all around drop. If that is due to settling, and will potentially happen to you, then you are gonna be slammed in the front.

So does everyone agree that there is some settling involved with all springs?


I think there is defintely settling with the springs but in my opinion some settle more than others. I had bmr 1.4/1.2 springs installed and my first reaction was I did not go low enough, after a month or two the fronts dropped pretty drastically and the rears seemed to drop slightly which honestly gave me the exact look I was going for.
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I'm gonna hold off on lowering my car until I have a better feel for the aftermarket springs might adversely affect weight transfer in my car. I like to drag race on a frequent basis.
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I'll have to see what happens. As you stated, only a few weeks old...
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richard200593, if you are still running stock wheels and tires, would you mind putting a yard stick to the fenders like I did and see what you have settled down to over time?
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