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Old 03-21-2014, 11:44 PM   #35
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Thanks guys!!!

Colt, those tires stock size on those black 20's?

Claw, looks awesome.

RJames, also too.

Looks like 1.0 front and back can't go wrong but I'd still like a little lower in back.
I agree that 1" drop F & R will not level out the car. I am considering the 1" drop up front and the 1.4" BMR springs for my 1LE, but I'm concerned about ride quality since its mostly a street car. I've also considered Eibach progressive springs (claimed 1" drop f & r), hoping the ride quality would be better than linear springs. All the linear springs seem to be 210-230 LBS/inch vs 165 LBS/inch for stock.
It seems like the progressive would ride closer to stock, yet not likely to bottom out either.

I'd like to hear more regarding folks that have installed any of these springs specifically about ride quality. OEM springs are often set higher for many reasons such as crash worthiness, headlight height, liability for damage from clearance issues, etc...

The BMR springs are claimed to be "dual rate springs with a linear working rate", but I'm still trying to determine how thats different than a progressive rate spring.
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Old 03-22-2014, 01:59 AM   #36
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John,

Yes those are still the stock 245/45 & 275/40 Pirellis.
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Old 03-22-2014, 02:03 AM   #37
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I agree that 1" drop F & R will not level out the car. I am considering the 1" drop up front and the 1.4" BMR springs for my 1LE, but I'm concerned about ride quality since its mostly a street car. I've also considered Eibach progressive springs (claimed 1" drop f & r), hoping the ride quality would be better than linear springs. All the linear springs seem to be 210-230 LBS/inch vs 165 LBS/inch for stock.
It seems like the progressive would ride closer to stock, yet not likely to bottom out either.

I'd like to hear more regarding folks that have installed any of these springs specifically about ride quality. OEM springs are often set higher for many reasons such as crash worthiness, headlight height, liability for damage from clearance issues, etc...

The BMR springs are claimed to be "dual rate springs with a linear working rate", but I'm still trying to determine how thats different than a progressive rate spring.
I can't give you a comparison from BMR to another aftermarket company, just OEM. The ride is noticeably stiffer now, you can feel every dip/bump you hit, but IMO it feels much more like a sports car now. My car does have the original suspension and it's not a 1LE of course, so it was a lot "worse" to start with.
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:50 AM   #38
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Looking for advice...I have a 2013 2LT RS and my goals:

Lower the car a little
Gain a little rake (I like the raked looked of slightly higher in the rear)
Soften the ride (the stock ride is a little stiff for me)
Cost is not an issue

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Old 03-22-2014, 11:05 AM   #39
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1.4 in front or back?

I had lunch with a car guy yesterday, and he said "nice rake you got going there." That noticeable. :(

How long does it take to do springs with impact?
Here is a quick video on installing the lowering springs. I bought a set of Eibach springs and I want a level ride also.

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Old 03-22-2014, 11:44 AM   #40
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Looking for advice...I have a 2013 2LT RS and my goals:

Lower the car a little
Gain a little rake (I like the raked looked of slightly higher in the rear)
Soften the ride (the stock ride is a little stiff for me)
Cost is not an issue

Appreciate any input
If cost isn't an issue, then you would want to either go with coilovers or air ride. I don't have experience with either, but I'm sure someone will chime in about it.


As for the install time on the springs, the Camaro springs are not under too much pressure, therefor a spring compressor is not needed. The hardest part is reaching a few of the bolts. Make sure you get the tools recommended. After getting everything ready, it was about a 3 hour install for 2 of us.
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Old 03-22-2014, 01:25 PM   #41
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Thanks again Colt on the info!!

I'll ask the BMR guys if they offer 1.2 [rear] that would fit on my car too.
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Old 03-23-2014, 05:56 PM   #42
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I love the rake.

1.4 front 1 rear
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Old 03-23-2014, 07:27 PM   #43
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Old 03-23-2014, 09:17 PM   #44
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Got the same problem down here. Damn curb jumped out in front of me. Messed up the chin spoiler. I fix it but it still needs paint. I ordered a mdp1 hood about a month ago and I am just waiting for it then I will get both painted along with mail slot filler panel. When I pull into the base and the guy ask about it I just tell to never let your wife drive. Lol
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I already have a ton of rake, this thread is about leveling out the car.
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Old 03-25-2014, 07:31 AM   #46
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Bump.... after all this time nobody has done 1.0 front drop, and 1.4 rear drop?

Too much rake here!
I'm looking at doing that very stance right now. I have .5" difference between the front and the rear and want to level it out. I have the dealer installed 21" wheel/tire so as soon as I find out if this combo will work I will be ordering me some springs!
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so this car is before lowering, right? and i still dont understand how 1.4 front and 1 rear like the OP (not pro street john's pic) can make it even remotely level. mind blown.
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That is my before pic.

She is too high in the butt.

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That is my before pic.

She is too high in the butt.

so have you already done a drop? was it the 1.4 front , 1 rear ? pics if so please. sorry if theyre in the thread, im just overall confused who has what drop
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I have not lowered the car yet.
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so have you already done a drop? was it the 1.4 front , 1 rear ? pics if so please. sorry if theyre in the thread, im just overall confused who has what drop
No, PSJ's car is stock ride height there in the picture. We typically offer a "raked" spring package which has 1.4" front springs and 1.0" rear springs. However, John is talking about reversing that and getting 1.4's for the rear and 1.0's on the front to level it out. Which I think would probably work well for him in this case. But we have not done a test fitment with a "reverse" set-up like that, so the end result would be questionable at this point. We also offer a 1.2" rear drop spring for the V-6, which will fit on the V-8 car as well, but it has a 430 lb. spring rate vs. the 460 lb. spring rate on the 1.4" spring. So either way, I think they would end up being about equal, maybe the 1.2" spring being ever so slightly taller.
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