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Old 03-21-2008, 01:26 AM   #1
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Arrow 3.6 DI V6 Faction check-in

If you're seriously considering the purchase of the 3.6 DI V6 check-in here and let us know the reasoning behind your decision.

As for me, well you can look around elsewhere. I will only buy the 3.6 under these two conditions, 1) I get the cowl in the hood stock and 2) the engine must make 300 hp +. Otherwise I'll pay the penalty and buy the V8.
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Old 03-21-2008, 11:14 AM   #2
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I am definitely getting the V6. I am a 22 year old college student who will be graduating soon and will have to pay for the camaro and student loans at the same time. I also have to consider that my insurance will probably at least triple. My uncle had a kick ass second gen camaro that was his project car and baby. He died and it was sold off. Ever since, I've wanted a camaro and I am glad that I have waited this long so I could get a great camaro to call my own and first.
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I'm considering it, but it will definitely have to make at least 300 hp, have awesome suspension, brakes, and other performance parts, and offer a substantial decrease in purchase price, fuel costs, and insurance rates. I really have a thing for that V8 rumble, easy modification, reliability, and power, so it will take a really good V6 offering to make up for losing that. One other concern is that I recall when the new CTS was introduced, GM admitted that there was an NVH problem in the design of the engine. Has that been addressed yet?
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I'm considering it, but it will definitely have to make at least 300 hp, have awesome suspension, brakes, and other performance parts, and offer a substantial decrease in purchase price, fuel costs, and insurance rates. I really have a thing for that V8 rumble, easy modification, reliability, and power, so it will take a really good V6 offering to make up for losing that. One other concern is that I recall when the new CTS was introduced, GM admitted that there was an NVH problem in the design of the engine. Has that been addressed yet?
+1. I'm entirely not opposed to the V8 but if the V6 delivers, why not....??
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Old 03-22-2008, 02:02 PM   #5
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The only way i would consider the 3.6 (at 300HP) would be if its priced under 20k.

Since that is soooo unlikely id rather buy a used 2005 Mustang GT for 4k less than 20k and drop a supercharger on it. Thats my plan B though, Plan A is the camaro with a chevy small block V8.

At 27 marrried no kids, insurance and payments isnt a big deal for me (hell full coverage insurance on a motorcycle would cost me $20.00 a month, and my ram costs me $60.00 a month)
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Old 03-22-2008, 02:13 PM   #6
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^ I gotta move to Phoenix! Those are good rates!!
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Old 03-22-2008, 05:29 PM   #7
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I'm trying to sell my 1970 Olds right now. If I can sell it, I'll get the V8. If I can't, I'll get the V6 because I won't have the money for the V8 and I'll already have a V8 powered car anyway.
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Old 03-22-2008, 09:56 PM   #8
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How would you feel if your V6 Camaro sounded like this???

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=119071
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OK now THAT ^ is sexy. That sound just made the 3.6 a lot more tempting.
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Old 03-22-2008, 10:42 PM   #10
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If I get a new Camaro, any version of GM's 3.6 liter V6 would probably be more than adequate. Hell, I'm driving a Civic now with a four-banger that supposedly makes 140 hp but feels more sluggish off the line than the 124 hp engine in my old Saturn.
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Old 03-22-2008, 11:22 PM   #11
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The V6 is probably going to be my choice. While I'd love to get the V8, I'm not going to be racing my car or anything, and 300 horsepower will be pretty good in and of itself. If the V8 is priced similarly to the Mustang GT, it'll be on the high end of what I can afford, and if it ends up getting "premium" priced, I likely won't be able to afford it. While my good driving record will get me relatively low insurance payments, I imagine the leap up to a V8 Camaro is going to be pretty painful. And if I do get the V8, it'll likely be low on options due to the cost, and I think I'd rather have a nicely optioned V6 than a stripper V8. I'm not too concerned about fuel economy, as I don't think the difference between the V6 and the V8 will be large enough to make a huge difference.

So yeah...it'll all hinge on what the cost will be for the car and the insurance.
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Old 03-23-2008, 08:29 PM   #12
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Been to busy to check into this thread but I'm here haha.

Yah the more I think about it, the more appealing and sensible the v6 is to me. For one, the price of the car itself will be lower, and that helps with insurance costs, considering I can very easily be paying $300 a month in insurance alone. Gas milage will also be there, though thats only a $40-$60 dollar increase over a v8 a month for me estimating. Buying the Camaro means it will be my car, and I would like it to have all the stuff in it I want. I'm not a big racing person and I just like to feel good while driving, which a 300hp v6 will more than do. Sure I would take a v8 if I could, but I am assuming its just out of my range for what I want out of a car. 300hp will more than do the job for my lead foot, and 400hp just seems excessive for my usage of the vehicle. I want to keep this car for a long time because it will be my first brand new car that I have actually wanted to get for a long time, and I'm sure down the road I can add aftermarket things to it to add power if needed. So I am 95% set on a v6 unless it doesn't have 300hp or close to it, and at that point I don't know what I will do.
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Old 03-25-2008, 12:31 PM   #13
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If I get a new Camaro, any version of GM's 3.6 liter V6 would probably be more than adequate. Hell, I'm driving a Civic now with a four-banger that supposedly makes 140 hp but feels more sluggish off the line than the 124 hp engine in my old Saturn.
that is because the GM four bangers are under rated... i have a 98 Cavalier that is rated at115hp, but feels a whole hell of a lot like 135 or 140. back to the topic at hand though. i definately am getting the V6 just because i think its over all performance will be better than that of the V8's along with V6 fuel mileage. the V6 we're talking about sounds awesome and gets 28-30 MPG on the highway that is compared to the 26 of the L76 in the G8 GT (i saw one at the pontiac lot and had to stop and look at it). i hope the 3.6 gets about 22 city or at least 22 MPG average. i will be disappointed if the camaro doesn't get the 300+hp version of the 3.6 though and i'm not sure if it will be as good of a performer, but if it does get the 300Hp V6 you can easily drop a SC on the engine and get the V8 power out of it while improving your mileage if you don't beat on it...
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Old 03-25-2008, 08:42 PM   #14
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as much as i would LOVE the V8 (i shoulda had a V8 *thunk to the head*) I would be quite happy with the 300hp DI 6. my aunt and uncle have the DI 6 powered CTS sedan and they say it feels a LOT stronger than 300hp. and they have owned a LOT of caddys in the past (including one with the MONSTER 500 CID V8s).
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:44 AM   #15
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I am definitely getting the V6. I am a 22 year old college student who will be graduating soon and will have to pay for the camaro and student loans at the same time. I also have to consider that my insurance will probably at least triple. My uncle had a kick ass second gen camaro that was his project car and baby. He died and it was sold off. Ever since, I've wanted a camaro and I am glad that I have waited this long so I could get a great camaro to call my own and first.
Yup it happened with me and the Firebird, I had to settle for V6, but now Im over 25 so I'm going V8 all the way. The Firebird Formula was like $4000 annually for insurance, so I had to settle for the Firebird V6. Looks like you're getting a better V6 than I did. Good luck and enjoy.
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:40 AM   #16
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I plan on getting the V6. I need an economy car for turning the odometer on my tame commute. If I didn't need an economy car, I'd only have my pickup. Since I do, I'm currently leasing a VW Rabbit. 3000 pounds, 170hp @ 5700, 177 lb-ft @ 4250. It's fast enough to be fun with a stick shift. If I could get something larger, more powerful, and rear wheel drive and still get 28mpg...hell yeah! Well, that ought to be what the V6 Camaro will be, right?

I can't afford the V8 purchase price, insurance, or gas, and the it sounds like the V6 will be plenty fast for my purposes.

Edit: Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention...every V6 Camaro sold should help the overall efficiency of the Camaro line, making it easier for GM to deal with MPG requirements, allowing them to sell more V8s to others!
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:52 PM   #17
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BUMP!!! Now that we know the V6 is a stellar performer...anyone else????
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:24 PM   #18
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Currently Tuner companies are having a hard time tuning the DI 2.0L turbo engine because of the DI. With out a tune simple bolt on mods won't add any performance. If I can tune the DI V6 then I would seriesly consider it. If not then its a V8 engine all the way.
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Old 05-24-2008, 02:41 AM   #19
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I'm leaning more towards the V6 then the V8 because of my age. I am 18 so the insurance for a v8 would rape me even more then I already am, and the fact that I couldn't afford one. The v6 however seems like a good possibility at 20k ish and not as high of an insurance premium, not to mention the better mileage. 300 horses is more then enough for me, its already on par with a mustang gt! plus if we get some bolt on mods or tuners 350Hp + will come soon enough
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Old 05-24-2008, 08:49 PM   #20
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Oh I'll definitly be getting the Direct injected V6. I'm 20 going on 21 and have been driving a four banger for the last five years. Doubling my hp seems an adequate adjustment, almost trippling it seems excessive and dangerous. I attract enough attention from the law without driving like a lunatic.
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Old 05-24-2008, 09:28 PM   #21
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The 3.6 would have to get better mpg than the LS1 did in the 02 Z-28, which was 28-29 on the highway if driven appropriately.
I do want a V8, but I do not require more HP than my 02 Z-28 had. Will the 300 hp 3.6 have any torque? Compared to the 300+ LS1? That is why a V8 may be necessary.
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According to Cadillac.com's info about the CTS:
3.6L Direct Injection V6: 304 hp at 6400 rpm and 273 lb-ft of torque at 5200 rpm
Of course, that doesn't show us a graph of the torque curve so it's not 100% meaningful, but it might be necessary to rev it up a little before you really get the power.

Your '02 Z-28 was lighter than the new Camaro will be, and probably had a lower drag coefficient. With all the latest technology in this V6, it will probably keep up with the MPG you got in your '02.
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The only way I would get the V6 is if the gas prices hit more than $5/gallon (87 octane). I have to have the feel, peroformance, and head knowledge of having a small block Chevy V8. Sorry guys, ...
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The only way I would get the V6 is if the gas prices hit more than $5/gallon (87 octane). I have to have the feel, peroformance, and head knowledge of having a small block Chevy V8. Sorry guys, ...
Just knowing it (V8 power) was there, was part of the fun; knowing that the car beside you did not have a chance, whether you raced or not, you knew.
The other part is when you first push on gas, you are hauling, no waiting for the revs to build....just touch the gas pedal/haul.
I will 'consider' the V6, given $4+ gas, but I still hope for a V8, even if it is not the 'top dog'....I would like to see what my 300hp 5.3 would do in a vehicle smaller than the ex cab Sierra 4x4. I think it would be a good cheap base V8, and give us the sound and torque we want... Of course 'we' still need the LS3 400+hp Z-28 AND the 500hp to humiliate the ?competition?
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It was smart of GM to offer this V6 then.
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