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Old 07-17-2009, 05:21 PM   #1
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New Era Performance OTR CAI

The OTR CAI is an outstanding product, the supplier provided excellent communication and quick shipping.

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Old 07-20-2009, 09:50 PM   #2
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I agree this intake fits great, and the service was great. I am a dealer for thsi product...but I feel that the entire New Era team is a great group of people, and they treat their customers right.
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Old 07-23-2009, 12:13 PM   #3
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Glad to hear! Keep us updated with the progress on your Camaro and let us know if you ever need anything else!

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Old 08-07-2009, 11:27 AM   #4
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I have mixed feelings about these guys. They are very good at communicating w/ their customers (helping, calling back), but they forgot to ship a couple important parts w/ the intake (front shield, hose clamp for breather line), which they immediately shipped out. They also shipped outdated installation instructions w/ the product that said to remove the stock radiator seal. Only after experiencing serious ''bucking'' while driving and stumbling upon a post by one of their reps. saying that the seal must remain ON, did I find out how it was SUPPOSED to be installed. Even after I got all the parts installed the right way, I remain unimpressed, as I do not feel the performance increases they claim, nor do I feel better throttle response (in fact, it's worse), and the ''bucking,'' while greatly reduced, hasn't been completely eliminated. Perhaps the MAF location is causing this? Maybe it's too much air for the stock tune to adjust for? I just don't know. I keep worrying that the computer is going to throw a code and I don't want to have to get a custom tune to get this setup working and void my warranty. While I still love the design, my Camaro does not seem happy w/ this setup.
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Old 08-13-2009, 09:26 PM   #5
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I have put 500 miles on the car with this intake and I am thrilled with the performance. Please note that I did NOT install the stock MAF, but installed and aftermarket HP MAP. This car screams!!!! Runs very very smooth! It also looks fantastic and blows everyone away when I pop the hood.
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Old 08-13-2009, 10:18 PM   #6
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Its a nice setup I just say those welds looks pretty bad for $500.
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Old 08-13-2009, 11:00 PM   #7
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Its a nice setup I just say those welds looks pretty bad for $500.
They look less obvious on the powder-coated ones. His is a raw finish, if I recall.
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Old 08-14-2009, 01:16 AM   #8
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New Era CAI is a great product

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I have mixed feelings about these guys. They are very good at communicating w/ their customers (helping, calling back), but they forgot to ship a couple important parts w/ the intake (front shield, hose clamp for breather line), which they immediately shipped out. They also shipped outdated installation instructions w/ the product that said to remove the stock radiator seal. Only after experiencing serious ''bucking'' while driving and stumbling upon a post by one of their reps. saying that the seal must remain ON, did I find out how it was SUPPOSED to be installed. Even after I got all the parts installed the right way, I remain unimpressed, as I do not feel the performance increases they claim, nor do I feel better throttle response (in fact, it's worse), and the ''bucking,'' while greatly reduced, hasn't been completely eliminated. Perhaps the MAF location is causing this? Maybe it's too much air for the stock tune to adjust for? I just don't know. I keep worrying that the computer is going to throw a code and I don't want to have to get a custom tune to get this setup working and void my warranty. While I still love the design, my Camaro does not seem happy w/ this setup.

I've been running with my New Era CAI and ARH system (installed by New Era) for a couple of weeks now and can feel the difference in my 2SS performance. Only issue is a bit of rattle when 6th. gear kicks in doing 50-55 mph (exhaust issue?) but haven't had it tuned yet . I don't think the welds are an issue at all. I had the plain rather than powder coated system installed and looks great under the hood of my SIM. Guys at New Era did a great job and are very knowledgeable. They have their own SS that they use for R&D for their products. Hey, I'm not saying they may not have screwed up your order---they're only human and are very busy at their garage. If you have a problem, I'm sure they'll work with you to correct it to your satisfaction. So far, I'm very satisfied with what they've done.
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Old 08-14-2009, 07:10 AM   #9
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I have put 500 miles on the car with this intake and I am thrilled with the performance. Please note that I did NOT install the stock MAF, but installed and aftermarket HP MAP. This car screams!!!! Runs very very smooth! It also looks fantastic and blows everyone away when I pop the hood.
Can you give me some details on the HP MAP that you installed? Brand, Pricing?
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:48 AM   #10
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jet perormance makes one. 140 bucks shipped. didnt try with out it, so i dont know if any better with or with out it. the cars does feel more snappy with both on. as far as power gain, hard to tell with that small amount. i would say it has some. i have not had on dyno again, trying for next week maybe.
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Old 08-14-2009, 12:03 PM   #11
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What is MAF and HP MAP? Im Not up with the lingo
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Old 08-18-2009, 09:03 AM   #12
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I have mixed feelings about these guys. They are very good at communicating w/ their customers (helping, calling back), but they forgot to ship a couple important parts w/ the intake (front shield, hose clamp for breather line), which they immediately shipped out. They also shipped outdated installation instructions w/ the product that said to remove the stock radiator seal. Only after experiencing serious ''bucking'' while driving and stumbling upon a post by one of their reps. saying that the seal must remain ON, did I find out how it was SUPPOSED to be installed. Even after I got all the parts installed the right way, I remain unimpressed, as I do not feel the performance increases they claim, nor do I feel better throttle response (in fact, it's worse), and the ''bucking,'' while greatly reduced, hasn't been completely eliminated. Perhaps the MAF location is causing this? Maybe it's too much air for the stock tune to adjust for? I just don't know. I keep worrying that the computer is going to throw a code and I don't want to have to get a custom tune to get this setup working and void my warranty. While I still love the design, my Camaro does not seem happy w/ this setup.
I have the exact same problem! I get the hesitation and bucking with the stock setup also but only when cold. With the New Era I get it even after it's warmed up. It's not real bad but it's anoying. It only happens when cruising steady at 1/4 throttle or less and especially when letting off on the accelerator. I'm still working with New Era to resolve and they have been great! The product looks fantastic and I want to keep it but not if we can't resolve this issue. Maybe it is a bad MAF sensor. If going to a Jet aftermarket will work I'll be happy! I just want to be sure before spending more money. I was told that the New Era should work fine without any tuning or anything else so we'll see. Please keep me posted with your results and I will do likewise.
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Old 08-18-2009, 09:06 AM   #13
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MAF= Mass Air Flow sensor. It is an electronic device installed in the air intake tube that measures the air velocity through the intake so the car's computer can adjust the air fuel mixture and whatever.
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Old 08-18-2009, 01:07 PM   #14
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I have the exact same problem! I get the hesitation and bucking with the stock setup also but only when cold. With the New Era I get it even after it's warmed up. It's not real bad but it's anoying. It only happens when cruising steady at 1/4 throttle or less and especially when letting off on the accelerator. I'm still working with New Era to resolve and they have been great! The product looks fantastic and I want to keep it but not if we can't resolve this issue. Maybe it is a bad MAF sensor. If going to a Jet aftermarket will work I'll be happy! I just want to be sure before spending more money. I was told that the New Era should work fine without any tuning or anything else so we'll see. Please keep me posted with your results and I will do likewise.
Here's an idea. Since you're only an hour's drive from New Era, how about taking it to them so they can experience this first-hand themselves?
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SO do you always have to get a HP MAP when changing out the CAI? Does getting a new HP MAP affect anything as far as warranty? Will the dealer notice this when in for service? Wonder if GMPP has aftermarket HP MAP?
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Here's an idea. Since you're only an hour's drive from New Era, how about taking it to them so they can experience this first-hand themselves?
I did the first time I had a problem. Mike was very helpful and discovered a problem with the way the MAF was seated in the opening due to a screw hole not tapped deep enough. We tried his intake from his test car and it seemed to work o.k. He ordered me a new kit which I installed on Sunday but still having the same problem although not as severe as the first. I called New Era today and I am waiting for a call back from Mike. I saw that you had the same problem so we can work together with New Era to resolve. At least I know I'm not alone. I'll let you know what he says when I talk to him today. Again, in keeping with the theme of this thread, New Era and their products seem to be top shelf. Mike is very interested in resolving this problem with me. It's tough to get in to their shop as I'm on the road a lot for work and they're not open on Saturdays.
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SO do you always have to get a HP MAP when changing out the CAI? Does getting a new HP MAP affect anything as far as warranty? Will the dealer notice this when in for service? Wonder if GMPP has aftermarket HP MAP?
From what I've been told you shouldn't have to!
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I have put 500 miles on the car with this intake and I am thrilled with the performance. Please note that I did NOT install the stock MAF, but installed and aftermarket HP MAP. This car screams!!!! Runs very very smooth! It also looks fantastic and blows everyone away when I pop the hood.
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Old 08-18-2009, 08:06 PM   #19
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this thread kind of worries me! i dont have my car yet (should be any day) but i have the New Era CAI sitting on my living room floor in the box...i wasnt expecting to have to also buy a MAF sensor after buying a $500 CAI...
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this thread kind of worries me! i dont have my car yet (should be any day) but i have the New Era CAI sitting on my living room floor in the box...i wasnt expecting to have to also buy a MAF sensor after buying a $500 CAI...
I really don't think this is a MAF issue...when the above poster see's Mike again I'm sure he will take care of him, then he can post about the fix. We will be installing one of these locally on a car and I'll get feedback from him as well. Stick with the stock MAF until further notice, in the past I have seen a lot of mildly modified cars/trucks get into trouble by going with a larger/aftermarket MAF. The tunability issues seem to be a real problem, it is tough getting the drivability to match stock with these units...this may be a result of quality issues with "some" aftermarket MAF's as well.
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ok ill stick with it. i guess if i have any problems, this is the place i will come looking for advice
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I put my stock airbox back on for some warranty work this past week (just a precaution), but might put the intake back on Friday and see if I feel a difference, once again. I really do like the design of this product and hope it will work out. Unfortunately, getting to a track is a PITA for me, which is what Mike suggested I do to get some real proof of this thing doing its job.
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After your guys installed the New Era CAI did you have any issues with your engine light?
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After your guys installed the New Era CAI did you have any issues with your engine light?
No, never.
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I put my stock airbox back on for some warranty work this past week (just a precaution), but might put the intake back on Friday and see if I feel a difference, once again. I really do like the design of this product and hope it will work out. Unfortunately, getting to a track is a PITA for me, which is what Mike suggested I do to get some real proof of this thing doing its job.
I took my car to a pro shop for tuning and they were impressed with the temps when driving the car (they actually drive and tune as well as Dyno tune). I could see on the computer while we were driving the temps of the air going down - awesome. They were however concerned about the short distance of the intake and the placement of the MAF, not a big concern nothing that can't be tuned to compensate. All in all I think even my tuner was impressed with the New Era CAI.
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