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Old 12-06-2013, 03:44 PM   #35
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Ouch, Im sorry to hear that. I understand how safe these cars are, having totaled one myself.

I was just in the Poconos last weekend and driving the Camaro through them tight hills was not fun, I recommend observing or going under the speed limit.

On a side note, I'd love to come snag the GFX off your Camaro.. maybe leave the impound unlocked..
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Old 12-06-2013, 06:48 PM   #36
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Wow! That's absolutely crazy... Very glad that you and your wife are ok. I'd be hard pressed NOT to get another Camaro if I survived a wreck like that
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:29 PM   #37
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SOMETHING to think about!!!!!! If you'd been in a C7 you both would likely be dead. Just a thought.
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:30 PM   #38
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Glad you're ok! The Camaro is well designed!

I rented an Impala, and was rather impressed. It even had a better interior than my Camaro…

OT: I can't help but chuckle at this pic. It looks like it was taken right out of a Disney movie… LOL!
Notice the lights still work <<< LOL
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Old 12-07-2013, 11:05 AM   #39
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I'm sure someone will buy it at the auction for parts.
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Old 12-07-2013, 12:00 PM   #40
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Glad to hear you and your wife are ok
I hate these kind of things, people are just not careful on the road. They think it is a game
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Old 12-07-2013, 12:10 PM   #41
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GM makes incredibly safe cars, far more safe than most of the other brands, its something that not talked about nearly enough.

Best wishes on your full recovery.
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Old 12-07-2013, 12:15 PM   #42
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Wow! That was an awful accident but I am very glad you & your wife came out okay. I know you miss your nice Camaro. There are many very lightly used Camaros out there. I bet you could search (or have a dealer search for you) around & find one with very few miles on it very close to the same as the one you had. Just a thought.
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Old 12-07-2013, 12:27 PM   #43
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took it like a champ. rest in peace.
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Old 12-07-2013, 06:37 PM   #44
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good to hear you all ok. yeah, would the new vette protect you like this pig camaro? why dont you look for a new 13? there are plenty still out there. i just got my new 2LT 2 months ago. good luck!
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Old 12-07-2013, 09:52 PM   #45
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I'd like to think I'll never experience such an accident EVER again so I'm not fixating on safety in my next purchase. However I am also considering a cheap lease Camaro LS stick in the new Red Rock Metallic @ $229/mo.
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Old 12-08-2013, 12:29 PM   #46
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IMO airbags are over-rated. If you were both wearing your belts in that crash you both would be fine, and the car would be an easy fix. But now thanks to those belts your car is totaled.
Glad you are fine, sorry for the Camaro.
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Old 12-08-2013, 07:17 PM   #47
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IMO airbags are over-rated. If you were both wearing your belts in that crash you both would be fine, and the car would be an easy fix. But now thanks to those belts your car is totaled.
Glad you are fine, sorry for the Camaro.
This doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

First of all your speculating on a crash that happened in the past, with static variables that can no longer be changed. Which means your opinion is baseless and unfounded.

Also, airbags deploying doesn't "total" your car.

Furthermore, I'd love to see any supporting evidence that airbags are ineffective.

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Old 12-08-2013, 07:23 PM   #48
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That stinks, but glad you and your wife are okay.
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Old 12-08-2013, 08:10 PM   #49
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This doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

First of all your speculating on a crash that happened in the past, with static variables that can no longer be changed. Which means your opinion is baseless and unfounded.

Also, airbags deploying doesn't "total" your car.

Furthermore, I'd love to see any supporting evidence that airbags are ineffective.

Thanks.

I never said airbags were ineffective, I said they not necessary in most cases. If given a choice I not order them.
Last fall, a brand new BMW 3-series car rolled into the Old Dominion Carstar Collision Center in Eugene, Ore. - literally. A teenager was "driving dad's car," says shop owner Patty McConnell, and rolled it over - with little apparent structural damage. The teen walked away, and normally the damage wouldn't have been hard to repair. But the BMW had so many air bags "it looked like a balloon," recalls Ms. McConnell. The new car, worth more than $30,000, was totaled.

Costly air bags, expensive electronics, and lightweight body materials are driving up the cost of fixing new cars. Not only do many more parts have to be replaced rather than repaired, but fewer and fewer body shops can afford the special equipment and training required to do the work."We're moving closer and closer to the disposable car," says Dan Bailey, an executive vice president at Carstar, the largest auto-body repair franchise in the United States.

Repairing a new car a decade ago, for example, cost an average of $2,578 per claim, while in 2003, the cost had ballooned to $3,681, a 43 percent increase that has outpaced inflation, says Kim Hazelbaker, senior vice president and head of loss claims analysis with the Highway Loss Data Institute (HLDI) in Arlington, Va.

Normally it takes a lot of damage to total a brand-new vehicle. Insurance companies calculate the value of a car before the accident and subtract its value as scrap. As long as the result is more than the cost of repair, the car is worth fixing.

But many new cars today cost so much to fix that it's becoming harder to justify repairs. The BMW that hit McConnell's shop had dual front, side, and side- curtain air bags. Federal safety rules do not allow air bags to be reused. So each bag would have had to be replaced with a brand new one. The sensors and pyrotechnics that set them off also required replacement. Add the cost of labor, more than $1,000 for each air bag, and even more for the sensors, and the result is a totaled car.
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Old 12-08-2013, 11:41 PM   #50
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a car is totaled at 65% of its value. Air bags total most older cars.
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Old 12-08-2013, 11:53 PM   #51
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SOMETHING to think about!!!!!! If you'd been in a C7 you both would likely be dead. Just a thought.
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HUH??????? Do you know something GM, NHTSA, IIHS DOESN"T ??????
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