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Old 04-07-2012, 11:05 AM   #401
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Conclusion, what sounds the best, deep, and loud?
If only it were that easy. Come on, you got to put some effort into it.

First off, what sounds good to me, may sound like crap to you.

2nd...you at least how to give us a price point. In my opinion Long Tube headers with something like ARK D-II, or LTs with a custom magnaflow setup sound the best to me, but there are many others that are close, but those setups will set you back 1,500 minimum. If your looking to only buy a catback, or spend even less and only get an axle-back then you had better start watchin videos.
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Old 04-12-2012, 05:36 PM   #402
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Can somebody tell me if the Cherry Bomb v8 extreme bolts up on the LFX models. I dont think I seen anybody with it and I've searched up and down this forum lol
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Any1 in Southern California with the Cherry Bomb V8 Catback on their V6? I am really interested in this system and would love to hear it in person.
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Not sure if this has been asked before, but which axle-back system is going to give me little to no in-cabin drone? I've really been wanting to upgrade the exhaust but the possible drone has really kept me from taking the plunge.
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Not sure if this has been asked before, but which axle-back system is going to give me little to no in-cabin drone? I've really been wanting to upgrade the exhaust but the possible drone has really kept me from taking the plunge.
I've not heard most of th axle-backs in person. I really only have reference to my Magnaflow system and I've heard and rode in an MRT 2.0 equipped car.

The MRT 2.0 had quite a bit more drone than my magnaflow system (with resonated X...that makes a difference) does. But the MRT system is also louder.

I'd say the tamer systems like Magnaflow, Borla, and JBA will be on the low side for drone.

You could always opt to spend a bit more and add Helmholtz pipes or "J" pipes as they are sometimes caused. They cancel out the drone frequencies, even with loud exhausts and really make a world of difference. I'd recommend looking into that once you decide an an exhaust. I think if you search for the term Helmholtz in the V6 section you may find a good thread about it.
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Flowmaster Super 40 Dual In - Dual Out link added to first post. Muffler located up near the stock H-pipe and straight pipe ran to the back. Includes several pics and videos.
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:10 PM   #407
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Really doing alot of research before i buy my exhuast and headers and im leaning towards the v8 cherrybomb setup with BBK LT's. And HFC later on to mellow it down if its too raspy. Which is why im here, do you guys think the cherrybombs and the BBK LT's would have alot of rasp? Not worried about drone too much my sound system will deffinatley block it out. Any thoughts would help! Thanks
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Really doing alot of research before i buy my exhuast and headers and im leaning towards the v8 cherrybomb setup with BBK LT's. And HFC later on to mellow it down if its too raspy. Which is why im here, do you guys think the cherrybombs and the BBK LT's would have alot of rasp? Not worried about drone too much my sound system will deffinatley block it out. Any thoughts would help! Thanks
bbk lt headers come with HFC
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I dont know how i didnt see that lol thanks, that just means one less thing to buy!
BTW whats the price range on the ARK-DTS?? Only seen good about ARK but havent been able to find prices.
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:49 PM   #410
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Hey Ryan....welcome!

Just my opinion, but BBK + ARK DTS would be a way better combo than BBK + Cherrybomb. I do think the Cherrybomb would get pretty raspy with the LTs, while the ARKs are able to control that better and you end up with a very muscular tone.
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I dont know how i didnt see that lol thanks, that just means one less thing to buy!
BTW whats the price range on the ARK-DTS?? Only seen good about ARK but havent been able to find prices.
ARK is having a spring blowout sale right now-I'm sure to take advantage of ppl getting their tax refunds-on their catbacks. Generally the N2 should be about 100.00 cheaper than the DT-S.

The differences between the two are thus. N2 is sans resonators, features 2.75" piping and 4.5" slant tips. They are the louder CB of the two. PPL have reported a bit of drone particularly when used with long tubes but IMO this is the most BOSS exhaust for the V6 Camaro anywhere. Nice deep rumble at idle and great tone all the way to redline.

The DT-S has resonators and features 2.5" piping and 4.5" burnt tips. (you can ask to have them polished for no extra charge I believe) See above and just tone it down a few decibels and very minimal drone even with LT's. This is what I have. It's aggressive but very livable. Rasp and drone are kept to a minimum. If this what you are after I don't think you'll find a better setup.

On sale you should expect to pay between 900.00-1000.00 for the N2 and between 1000.00-1100.00. Otherwise these are 1400.00-1500.00 catbacks. Who knows maybe they're less than what I'm quoting you on sale. Give them a call. Nothing to lose but some Benjamins and only awesomeness to gain.
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Old 04-24-2012, 10:21 PM   #412
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Thanks SIXJAK, been following your thread thats where i first started to like the ARK. Yours sounds really good cant imagine how good it sounds in person. But i was considering cherrybombs just because of how cheap it is but rasp is one think i CAN NOT have. Deffinately going to look into ARK a little more. Just on the fence if i want to spend all that on an exhaust system or get a CF Havok Rear Diffuser.. But i dont want to be dissapointed if i went with CherryBomb.
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Old 04-29-2012, 09:24 AM   #413
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I dont know how i didnt see that lol thanks, that just means one less thing to buy!
BTW whats the price range on the ARK-DTS?? Only seen good about ARK but havent been able to find prices.
In October 2011 the price for DTS; burnt tips, was $899 shipped, and the N-11; slant tips was $799 shipped. The last time I got a price from those guys was in Feb 2012 and the price for the DTS was $989 plus $120 Shipping; $1109. He said they can't honor the October prices so I just bought a Magnaflow X, added that to my Flowmasters, all is good. I felt like, and I still do, if they could sell it for under $900 shipped in October, then they are just screwing me out of $200, 4 months later, and that was the "special C5" price. And let me add, the MSRP was the same in October as it was in Feb.
It is the resonated X that gets rid of the rasp, and you can get that for under $100. Magnaflows Part # 11386, you can get it at Summit racing amoung other places.
Don't get me wrong, the ARK is a very nice product but basically its a resonated x pipe with aftermarket mufflers, and bolt on polished piping. It is all beautiful where mine is kinda frankensteined but no-ones been under the car looking.

I think with the Magnaflow Res X pipe and the MRT 2, it would be a sound very very very close to the ARK DTS. It would not be as pretty tho; the magnaflow x needs to be welded to your existing pipes and they are not polished, but who is under your car looking???? Good luck with it.

here is a link to my youtube videos, I uploaded many with my exhaust as it was in progress. If you use headphones you can hear it pretty good. http://www.youtube.com/user/metthem88/videos

As you will see, the more you open up your exhaust, the raspier it gets; the more you need the resonated X-pipe. I don't have videos of just the Flowmasters, but it sounded pretty good, much better than stock, then I added the shortie headers, all I heard was the rasp. Then I added the Solo HFC's with resonated pipes and it got deeper but the rasp was still there. Then I added the X pipe and it got a little quieter, a little more refined sounding, deeper and no more metallic raspiness. It took a lot but the rasp ate at me every day.
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In October 2011 the price for DTS; burnt tips, was $899 shipped, and the N-11; slant tips was $799 shipped. The last time I got a price from those guys was in Feb 2012 and the price for the DTS was $989 plus $120 Shipping; $1109. He said they can't honor the October prices so I just bought a Magnaflow X, added that to my Flowmasters, all is good. I felt like, and I still do, if they could sell it for under $900 shipped in October, then they are just screwing me out of $200, 4 months later, and that was the "special C5" price. And let me add, the MSRP was the same in October as it was in Feb.
It is the resonated X that gets rid of the rasp, and you can get that for under $100. Magnaflows Part # 11386, you can get it at Summit racing amoung other places.
Don't get me wrong, the ARK is a very nice product but basically its a resonated x pipe with aftermarket mufflers, and bolt on polished piping. It is all beautiful where mine is kinda frankensteined but no-ones been under the car looking.

I think with the Magnaflow Res X pipe and the MRT 2, it would be a sound very very very close to the ARK DTS. It would not be as pretty tho; the magnaflow x needs to be welded to your existing pipes and they are not polished, but who is under your car looking???? Good luck with it.

here is a link to my youtube videos, I uploaded many with my exhaust as it was in progress. If you use headphones you can hear it pretty good. http://www.youtube.com/user/metthem88/videos
When you flip your car over and it's laying there upside down, no one will be impressed with your setup.
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Sixjak takes a corner too fast and slides into the ditch and flips. People come on to the scene and run over to help. Then they notice his shiny exhaust. "Oooooo, lookey there! That sure is purty!" Sixjak yells out from the car, "Help, I'm bleeding in here! And I can't get out!" Onlookers keep gazing at the exhaust. "Wow, I can see myself in it! I could probably shave using this exhaust." Sixjak says, "Nevermind, it's just a scratch, and I'm kinda comfortable hanging upside down. I think I'll just stay here and hope the gravity helps relieve that pressure on my back."


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Soooooo deffinately going with the ARK DTS!! But now its picking the right header combo... BBK LTs? Or DT Shorties with some HFCs?? Would the shorties produce a deeper tone?? Without the rasp?? I know i'd give up the performance of the LTs but would it be worth it sound wise?
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Soooooo deffinately going with the ARK DTS!! But now its picking the right header combo... BBK LTs? Or DT Shorties with some HFCs?? Would the shorties produce a deeper tone?? Without the rasp?? I know i'd give up the performance of the LTs but would it be worth it sound wise?
Do you see FI in your future? If you plan to go the turbo route then do the shorty's. If you wanna go SC, then do the LT's. ARK does a great job on containing rasp.
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Yea eventually i would look more into FI, but seeing as my camaro isnt a year old yet and im only 18 that wouldnt be tooo soon lol, and im sure either route i went i can just pickup a pair of LTs if i went with a SC. TTs or just a single turbo seems the more likely route for me tho. My main wonder is just the sound of the Shorties paired with HFCs and the DTS. I want to be satisfied the first time, hah but dont we all?? Might just have to test it out seeing that i cant find any of the same setups
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Yea eventually i would look more into FI, but seeing as my camaro isnt a year old yet and im only 18 that wouldnt be tooo soon lol, and im sure either route i went i can just pickup a pair of LTs if i went with a SC. TTs or just a single turbo seems the more likely route for me tho. My main wonder is just the sound of the Shorties paired with HFCs and the DTS. I want to be satisfied the first time, hah but dont we all?? Might just have to test it out seeing that i cant find any of the same setups
I don't think you'll be disappointed with some DT shorty's and ARK DT-S CB.
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In October 2011 the price for DTS; burnt tips, was $899 shipped, and the N-11; slant tips was $799 shipped. The last time I got a price from those guys was in Feb 2012 and the price for the DTS was $989 plus $120 Shipping; $1109. He said they can't honor the October prices so I just bought a Magnaflow X, added that to my Flowmasters, all is good. I felt like, and I still do, if they could sell it for under $900 shipped in October, then they are just screwing me out of $200, 4 months later, and that was the "special C5" price. And let me add, the MSRP was the same in October as it was in Feb.
It is the resonated X that gets rid of the rasp, and you can get that for under $100. Magnaflows Part # 11386, you can get it at Summit racing amoung other places.
Don't get me wrong, the ARK is a very nice product but basically its a resonated x pipe with aftermarket mufflers, and bolt on polished piping. It is all beautiful where mine is kinda frankensteined but no-ones been under the car looking.

I think with the Magnaflow Res X pipe and the MRT 2, it would be a sound very very very close to the ARK DTS. It would not be as pretty tho; the magnaflow x needs to be welded to your existing pipes and they are not polished, but who is under your car looking???? Good luck with it.

here is a link to my youtube videos, I uploaded many with my exhaust as it was in progress. If you use headphones you can hear it pretty good. http://www.youtube.com/user/metthem88/videos

As you will see, the more you open up your exhaust, the raspier it gets; the more you need the resonated X-pipe. I don't have videos of just the Flowmasters, but it sounded pretty good, much better than stock, then I added the shortie headers, all I heard was the rasp. Then I added the Solo HFC's with resonated pipes and it got deeper but the rasp was still there. Then I added the X pipe and it got a little quieter, a little more refined sounding, deeper and no more metallic raspiness. It took a lot but the rasp ate at me every day.
How much do you think a Magnaflow X-pipe and MRT 2 would run, if I decided to go this combo instead of the ARK?
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100 for mag-X + 4 or 5 hundred for MRT 2.0 + installation costs.

So based on that I'd say 600 best case, to 800 worse case scenario. ARK would be 900 to a grand I'm thinking so you have to decide for yourself on which way to go.
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Yeah I just need to decide which is going to give me the best deep sound with no rasp or drone. I'm going to be purchasing the cai and exhaust setup together so I know depending on the cai I go with, that will change the sound of the exhaust also... I don't think I will be going with LT or ST either. So its whatever sounds best with the cai/exhaust combo. Decisions decisions....
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I have a "noob" question... When I take the exhaust system I ordered online to a local shop, what other charges should I expect? Also what should I looking for from the local shop to provide as far as service goes?
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How much do you think a Magnaflow X-pipe and MRT 2 would run, if I decided to go this combo instead of the ARK?
Around $450- $500 for the MRT, add $100 for the Magnaflow X, so $650 max. For the ARK, $1109

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You should expect just labor costs; for the mrt and x pipe, figure around $150 to install the MRT's, and around $85 to weld and install the X-Pipe.
Total price, with install, about $900

For the ARK, I would expect install to be around $150 total since the only thing involved is unbolting your stock exhaust and bolting up the ARK. With the MRT's they have to cut your pipes to 'fit' them.
Total price for the ARK, installed, $1250

Not sure what you mean by what the shop should provide as service? Some shops won't install parts that you didn't buy from them so I would look for a private muffler shop v/s a chain.
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