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Old 03-21-2008, 08:19 PM   #1
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Would you consider a diesel Camaro?

Would anyone consider a diesel in a Camaro. GM recently developed a Duramax 4.5. They designed it to fit the same dimensions as typical small block. The engine will be available in future half ton pick-ups. GM hasn't ruled out the possiblity of the new diesel being put into passenger cars. I love diesels (I've been a diesel mechanic for almost 20 years). For so long they've gotten a bad rap, thanks in part to some God awful diesels produced in the past. Like the diesel 350 GM developed in the eighties. Talk about slow! And noisey. Nowadays, with the advances in turbocharging and computer controlled direct injection, diesels not only make the monsterous torque that they are known for, but they make comparable amounts of horsepower to similarly sized gas engines, and with around 20% better fuel economy. And furthermore, the aftermarket for diesels has increased exponentially over the last few years. Companies like Gale Banks Engineering offer computer upgrades, exhaust systems, and larger turbos which give current diesels stratospheric torque and horespower.

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Old 03-21-2008, 09:04 PM   #2
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Well, diesels offer better mileage, fuel can be made practically for free, and large ones offer bone crushing torque, and sound more powerful than anything else out there. Oh, and from what I've heard, you can make crazy power out of them for cheap. So yes, I would consider it
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Old 03-21-2008, 09:38 PM   #3
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I'd consider it, depending on the cost of the engine upgrade at purchase. I know that when I was looking for a new truck last year, the diesel upgrade on an F250 was a $6800+ option. Even with the severe torque these engines can put out and the fun that goes with it, I'm not sure I'd be willing to pay the additional upgrade costs up front.

Oh, and on the 20% fuel economy improvement...that's true but have you priced out the difference between diesel and gas at the pump lately? I paid $3.09/gal for gas today and diesel was $3.89/gal. That's a 26% price premium in fuel costs. Ouch!

But, I'd consider it just for the fun of it and the ability to run bio-diesel.
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Old 03-21-2008, 09:43 PM   #4
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I don't think I could get over the sound coming from my new Camaro : /
plus diesel is way more expensive than premium unleaded where I am, not that that would be a deal-breaker, but definitely a tally in the con section.
I think I'd consider it though, for the torque : D
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:45 PM   #5
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Old 03-21-2008, 11:06 PM   #6
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I would buy a colorado/canyon Diesel.
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Old 03-22-2008, 01:13 AM   #7
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At the current price of diesel, no. If that changed or I had the means to make my own bio-diesel, then maybe.
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Old 03-22-2008, 01:29 AM   #8
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In a truck yes, in a Camaro HELL NO.
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Old 03-22-2008, 02:26 AM   #9
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At the current price of diesel, no. If that changed or I had the means to make my own bio-diesel, then maybe.
$4.00 per gallon for diesel here....too much for me. But yes...I would consider one in a heartbeat. If luxury cars can be made with them w/out sounding like normal diesels do, why not?
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Old 03-22-2008, 02:43 AM   #10
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i would in a heartbeat. did any of you guys see the "pimp my ride" with the Impala that ran on bio-diesel??? that thing was sick.
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Old 03-22-2008, 02:43 AM   #11
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I would definitely consider it. Diesel is about $3.50-$3.80 around here (compared to $3.20 for 87 octane) so it's a bit costly, but the fuel savings might make up for it depending on how efficient they make it. And the blistering torque would make for a hellacious drive.
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Old 03-22-2008, 12:46 PM   #12
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Depends on many factors. But it would definitely be in the comparison chart...
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Old 03-22-2008, 05:13 PM   #13
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No, mostly because I have yet to encounter a diesel that doesn't sound like a truck engine. I'm getting a V8 because of the sound and feel of a V8 and I'm sticking to that.
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Yeah, I think a Duramax 4500 powered Camaro would be badass. Its the same physical size and (almost, its got turbo stuff)weight as the LQ4.
Its as of right now making over 300hp and 500ftlbs torque.
That would be bitchin. Plus the engine itself is just a really neat piece of engineering. It doesnt have any exhaust manifolds bolted to the outside of the heads like traditional v8's. The exhasut exits through what would normally be the intake ports, and into the manifolds and turbo which rest low down in the valley of the engine(its about the same height as an LS3) and the intake ports are integrated into the outside edge of the head, the camshaft covers(valve covers....but its a 4 cam engine, so cam covers) have the intake manifold built into them. The intake air goes through the valve covers, yes. There is nothing were you'd usually see spark plugs and headers on a GM v8, its just, bare. Weird shit.
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406 lbs of torque! Don't think Iwould buy one but its interesting
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Old 03-23-2008, 05:49 AM   #16
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If diesel were cheap like it used to be I might, but in my area it's close to or over $4.00 in places so, I'd have to say no.
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in canada diesel is everywhere... and its roughly 80% of the cost of 87 octane it was .88 cents a litre when gas hit 1.09
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No, mostly because I have yet to encounter a diesel that doesn't sound like a truck engine. I'm getting a V8 because of the sound and feel of a V8 and I'm sticking to that.
And he's paying $8/gallon!!!!!!!!!

I'd take a diesel Camaro in a heartbeat. Sure diesel costs more than petrol, at least for now but that's a seasonal, temporal issue. Beyond that, diesels costs less to operate over time compared to cars that run on gasoline and you make up whatever costs you eat in fuel costs after several years of owning a diesel powered car.
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Old 04-11-2008, 12:24 AM   #20
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If it was cheaper sure though I do hate how they sound.
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If it was cheaper sure though I do hate how they sound.
The sound is defintely not the best, but for me the benefits outweigh the cons.
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And he's paying $8/gallon!!!!!!!!!

I'd take a diesel Camaro in a heartbeat. Sure diesel costs more than petrol, at least for now but that's a seasonal, temporal issue. Beyond that, diesels costs less to operate over time compared to cars that run on gasoline and you make up whatever costs you eat in fuel costs after several years of owning a diesel powered car.
You also have to take into account that our crrency is worth a lot more then the dollar. And diesel here have recently become really costly, more then regular gas even. I'm holding out hope for an E85 compatible Camaro, since that's still pretty cheap.
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I would take it without hesitation. I'd run it on grease most of the time. A friend of my roommate took his diesel to Texas for $10 roundtrip. You can't deny that diesel would be good for the wallet that way.
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Old 05-17-2008, 11:03 PM   #25
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Camaro crazy - right on! I'd love to try a new camaro with a diesel- but I'd think long and hard about it because I want the convertible. I noticed that some European convertibles are coming with diesel power now.
Had an 84 Olds diesels Cutlass- I loved it, but it stank and was slow once over 30mph. The engineers were over ridden by the bean counters on that job!!
Rode in a new ambulance with the Duramax to take a patient to the cath lab- he went into V-Fib rhythm and while we were working on him the driver punched it and before you know it we were over 90mph. WOW! Incidentally the patient made it.
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