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Ninjak · 07-21-2009, 11:53 AM

The Heat shield helps a CIA, and also the location of the Hood blanket can help. On the new GT500 2010, ford relocated the CIA, used a open element and added a spot through the front grill for air to come directly in and sealed of the CIA with the shield and hood blanket.

http://image.mustang50magazine.com/f...ion_system.jpg

Good ol ford

Though this may hurt some aftermarket CIA makers

newgenss · 07-21-2009, 02:48 PM

I went to my tuner to show him my car and he was impressed how well designed the stock intake was. He told me that the so called "baffles" on the intake tube are not baffles but sort work like a resevoir for air to shoot at a higher rate into the intake. He recommend keeping it an just adding a K&N filter. By the way he was the first in receiving the TVS 2300, he has it on his G8 making 640whp and told me he pulled on a GTR going 80 to 120mph.

CWI · 07-21-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by themossman

you can see evidence of to support this particular claim on my cars build history...right now on stock airbox I'm putting down 460+rwhp.

Granted...I am waiting on the Vararam product and will install that next...

Are those still the OEM mufflers?

themossman · 07-21-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CWIweldace

Are those still the OEM mufflers?

yep...

03ss · 07-24-2009, 09:42 PM

Good read.
Definately Agree hot air is bad. Is it just me or is it smokin hot under the camaro hood after you have been driving and park it. I wonder what the difference in IAT are going to be depending on the brand of supercharger kit you buy. I think the Maggies, Kenne Belle, etc really need to have a good water cooler to get those temps in location due to their mounting location. Centrifugal are probably better choice but then again if the filter is above the headers maybe not. Definately interested in what our best option is. The one with the best IAT would probably be the safest option.

J

hot ss · 07-24-2009, 09:58 PM

so far the gmpp intake looks the best to me.
the bwoody idea has my interest,
and the over the rad...undecided.

boostedyards86 · 07-25-2009, 11:26 AM

bwoody's does look interesting. minus the 600dollar price tag.

Brianskeet · 02-03-2011, 11:44 PM

I am a big fan of the Jannetty tests that show IAT right along side of HP and TQ numbers.

IndeedSS1 · 02-04-2011, 07:18 AM

Wow this thread is old and I hadn't seen it prior to today. However, I've been linking to the Kenne Bell pdf for years on other car forums, when the talk would turn to HAI versus CAI (box) or FWI. Even on a supercharged intercooled daily driver I could tell the difference, between having a cone on the throttle body versus running a Wizaired (similar to CAI brand). The difference was night and day when I tested during the heat of the summer. But, some guys claimed they ran faster at the track with the hai versus cai.

axis · 02-04-2011, 05:24 PM

Holy necromancering.

PSU SS · 02-04-2011, 06:50 PM

soooo ADM, is there a CAI that you recommend? I've been looking at the Cold Air Induction CAI, it has a sealed box much like the factory box but I'm not sure where it's drawing the air from. Is it using the same source as the factory box? I think you can buy a "scope" to use with this unit that inserts in or around the grill but I haven't gotten that far in my research yet...

PSU SS · 02-04-2011, 06:50 PM

eeeeh, I meant "scoop" not "scope."

BLACK10 · 02-06-2011, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PSU SS

eeeeh, I meant "scoop" not "scope."

ADM makes their own cai

ADM PERFORMANCE · 02-07-2011, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BLACK10

ADM makes their own cai

Yes we do,we designed the first sealed box style intake for the camaro almost 2 years ago.

We also designed the first airscoop for the 2010 Camaro .

GMRULZ · 02-08-2011, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE

I only copied and pasted it from a pdf file from his site.

The man has been around forced induction from along time ago,he speaks the truth.

I bring this read up about once a year just to enlighten the new guys that just don't no better.

Andy

I agree w/ his synopsis completely, so then why is his supercharger kit for the camaro (appears to be this way) have a hot exposed air intake filter that comes w/ the kit? At least in the pics, I`ve never seen one in person it appears to have no box or shield and just sits down in the fenderwell on the driver side. So it would definetly be pulling in "hot underhood air". At least it appears to be unshielded underhood air in the few pics I`ve seen.

Andy, you should make them a kit!

ADM PERFORMANCE · 02-08-2011, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMRULZ

I agree w/ his synopsis completely, so then why is his supercharger kit for the camaro (appears to be this way) have a hot exposed air intake filter that comes w/ the kit? At least in the pics, I`ve never seen one in person it appears to have no box or shield and just sits down in the fenderwell on the driver side. So it would definetly be pulling in "hot underhood air". At least it appears to be unshielded underhood air in the few pics I`ve seen.

Andy, you should make them a kit!

I have something for your eyes only very soon!!!!

GMRULZ · 02-08-2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE

I have something for your eyes only very soon!!!!

Nicey nice!

02-03-2011, 11:44 PM	#58
Brianskeet Brianskeet Drives: RJTC 1SS RS L99 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Crestview FL Posts: 815 View My Garage	I am a big fan of the Jannetty tests that show IAT right along side of HP and TQ numbers. __________________ ARH 1 7/8 coated LT, High flows, Corsa L99 exhaust, Vmax CNC throttle body, Elite Engineering catch can and tunnel brace, C.A.I. Apex Washer relocation and scoop, Janetty Tune, MSD wires, DEI heat shields, RB rotors and pads, Mike the powder coater calipers, pedders lines, Forgestar F14's, Gorilla nutz, MTI spoiler finished by Gary, Gary's Customz Bow Ties, Side Markers and Tails tinted, Bezels matte black, Badges deleted, Windows Tinted, AAC DRL P13W lights, AAC tinted LED reverse lights, AAC LED interior lights, RPI match painted DRL Bezels, Lis plate frame, Lloyds mats

02-04-2011, 07:18 AM	#59
IndeedSS1 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Eastern MO Posts: 3,849	Wow this thread is old and I hadn't seen it prior to today. However, I've been linking to the Kenne Bell pdf for years on other car forums, when the talk would turn to HAI versus CAI (box) or FWI. Even on a supercharged intercooled daily driver I could tell the difference, between having a cone on the throttle body versus running a Wizaired (similar to CAI brand). The difference was night and day when I tested during the heat of the summer. But, some guys claimed they ran faster at the track with the hai versus cai. __________________ She is only memory now.

02-04-2011, 05:24 PM	#60
axis Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 4,516	Holy necromancering. __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech Yellowjacket fed Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) JRE tuned Aint nobody got time for that

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07-24-2009, 09:42 PM	#55
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07-24-2009, 09:58 PM	#56
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07-25-2009, 11:26 AM	#57
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