Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Bigwormgraphix
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > General Camaro Forums > Chevy Camaro vs...

Chevy Camaro vs... Comparison of Chevy Camaro versus its competition. *NO STREET RACING STORIES*

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-22-2009, 02:46 AM   #51
Gentry78
HOOK'EM
 
Gentry78's Avatar
 
Drives: 97 c1500/92 olds
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,283
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee9710 View Post
Who has their panties in a bunch? You have no idea what is going on. Some guy comes in trying to make others feel dumb and that is your reaction. Wow.
um yeah i know whats going on i've read the thread and following it because of comments like this

Quote:
Originally Posted by LS3SSRS View Post
ya i missed it lol

yeah this guy kinda answered that for me also
Gentry78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 02:48 AM   #52
Lee9710
 
Drives: 2013 Summit White ZL1
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Yelm, WA
Posts: 632
Send a message via Yahoo to Lee9710
Quote:
Originally Posted by steddy2112 View Post
Now you are calling deaf people dumb.



That's messed up man.
Yeah, I called deaf people dumb........WTF. Where did you pull this up from?
__________________

Proud Owner of the baddest Camaro ever built
ZL1
Lee9710 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 02:52 AM   #53
Gentry78
HOOK'EM
 
Gentry78's Avatar
 
Drives: 97 c1500/92 olds
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,283
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee9710 View Post
What kind of productive job has you sitting on a Camaro site chatting then. Can't be a great one, at least no respectful job I have ever had or know of lets you surf the net. You brought up the discount, not me. Oh yeah cause I said they were imaginary.......a real bike as in a Harley, or a real car as in something fast and worth the money.
yeah there are plenty of people on here that have "respectful productive jobs" that i guarantee make more than you right now


hell some of them are even on duty not only at work but on duty and still check in through out the night

so just because you don't have a job like that doesn't mean others don't
Gentry78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 02:54 AM   #54
steddy2112
 
steddy2112's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 Cobalt SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Salem County, NJ
Posts: 203
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee9710 View Post
What kind of productive job has you sitting on a Camaro site chatting then. Can't be a great one, at least no respectful job I have ever had or know of lets you surf the net. You brought up the discount, not me. Oh yeah cause I said they were imaginary.......a real bike as in a Harley, or a real car as in something fast and worth the money.
I don't like motorcycles that have poor design, vibrate my hands numb, are slow overpriced pieces of shit, and have a community that frowns upon people who decide to wear full leathers and be responsible for themselves.

I am sorry I don't like motorcycles that like to cook their back cylinder, use belts() to drive them and had to have Porsche design an engine for them in order to make 100hp with over two liters of displacement.

Oh, ever wear any kevlar or use anything with carbon fiber?

Yeah I make it for a living, but you know, keeping people safe, and making things like the ZR1 lighter, pieces of shit have that job.

And name a car for $21k OTD that has a better performance value than a new Cobalt SS?

If you are too closed minded to understand there is a world outside pushrod V8s then you are truly an idiot, and not an enthusiast in any way shape or form.

You are a poser who worries more about the sound of a car rather than it's efficiency of being a complete car and doing everything well, you should have got something other than a Camaro IMO. If you had/do have a bike you are nothing but a squid who is worried about how much chrome and dem hooligans on dem dere crotch rockets always riding like assholes, when you where a half helmet and no gear yourself while riding around town after leaving the local bar loaded to the gills with your open drag pipes.
__________________
steddy2112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 02:56 AM   #55
steddy2112
 
steddy2112's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 Cobalt SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Salem County, NJ
Posts: 203
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee9710 View Post
Yeah, I called deaf people dumb........WTF. Where did you pull this up from?
You said I came in here calling people dumb.

I called you deaf, not dumb, but if you read the post before this, I called you a poser, AND a squid.

Basically a bunion in the society of enthusiasts who actually care about doing it right, whereas you strive to make sure:

__________________
steddy2112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 02:56 AM   #56
Lee9710
 
Drives: 2013 Summit White ZL1
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Yelm, WA
Posts: 632
Send a message via Yahoo to Lee9710
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gentry78 View Post
yeah there are plenty of people on here that have "respectful productive jobs" that i guarantee make more than you right now


hell some of them are even on duty not only at work but on duty and still check in through out the night

so just because you don't have a job like that doesn't mean others don't
Im sure they don't. You don't know me. But a respectful job wouldn't be surfing the net. It would be doing the work unless you are on a break of some sort which he is not since he said he had some entertainment now for the night.
And he comes in here basically putting ME down for not being able to tell the difference and somehow I am in the wrong for my reaction?
__________________

Proud Owner of the baddest Camaro ever built
ZL1
Lee9710 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:00 AM   #57
steddy2112
 
steddy2112's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 Cobalt SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Salem County, NJ
Posts: 203
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee9710 View Post
Im sure they don't. You don't know me. But a respectful job wouldn't be surfing the net. It would be doing the work unless you are on a break of some sort which he is not since he said he had some entertainment now for the night.
And he comes in here basically putting ME down for not being able to tell the difference and somehow I am in the wrong for my reaction?
Calling you hard of hearing is insulting you?



Awesome.


And Lee, you are RIGHT


MOST PEOPLE ON THIS SITE DON'T HAVE A DECENT JOB


ROFL!

You are my new BFF
__________________
steddy2112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:03 AM   #58
Gentry78
HOOK'EM
 
Gentry78's Avatar
 
Drives: 97 c1500/92 olds
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,283
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee9710 View Post
Im sure they don't. You don't know me. But a respectful job wouldn't be surfing the net. It would be doing the work unless you are on a break of some sort which he is not since he said he had some entertainment now for the night.
And he comes in here basically putting ME down for not being able to tell the difference and somehow I am in the wrong for my reaction?
dude you really need a back bone
Gentry78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:05 AM   #59
steddy2112
 
steddy2112's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 Cobalt SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Salem County, NJ
Posts: 203
I still cannot believe that I am cracking up so right now.

No one on this site has a decent job.

Lee did a study.

He said:

All good jobs are belong to me.

__________________
steddy2112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:09 AM   #60
Lee9710
 
Drives: 2013 Summit White ZL1
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Yelm, WA
Posts: 632
Send a message via Yahoo to Lee9710
Oh yeah, I'm a poser. I have had American Muscle my whole life. No need for a bike when my Trans Am is fast enough. Doing things right includes actually building an engine or transmission, not adding spray or any of that computer non sense. Too bad I don't own a Harley either, since I am nowhere near those guys, but I bet you wouldn't say that to some of them up close and personal. Great job at work, should be making your product but instead arguing on the net. A poser would be someone like you bud, owning a Cobalt and modding it, but then deciding to go to a V8 Camaro. A true enthusiast would be someone who has owned a car like this for a very long time and been into it for even longer. I have had many other cars such as my '05 GTO, my extremely modded and fully rebuilt '97 Trans Am, my new '10 Camaro SS, '08 VW GTI, and my '07 Chevy Silverado. I still have them all and am looking into a Vette or a GT500 for next year after my wife gets her new SUV. So don't tell me I should be driving something else when I know more about rebuilding cars than you ever will. So I didn't hear the sound of the Cobalt, I was pretty far ahead and paying attention to the road ahead of me and feeling the rush of going fast in my new car. So that makes me deaf I guess since I couldn't really hear it anyways over my own car. But thanks for being exactly how I described the other Cobalt driver. I hope you do get your Camaro soon so you can enjoy a great car and not the thing you are in.
__________________

Proud Owner of the baddest Camaro ever built
ZL1
Lee9710 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:11 AM   #61
Lee9710
 
Drives: 2013 Summit White ZL1
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Yelm, WA
Posts: 632
Send a message via Yahoo to Lee9710
Quote:
Originally Posted by steddy2112 View Post
I still cannot believe that I am cracking up so right now.

No one on this site has a decent job.

Lee did a study.

He said:

All good jobs are belong to me.

Didn't say that either. I just dont surf the net when I have other more important things to do .......like my job.
__________________

Proud Owner of the baddest Camaro ever built
ZL1
Lee9710 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:12 AM   #62
Lee9710
 
Drives: 2013 Summit White ZL1
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Yelm, WA
Posts: 632
Send a message via Yahoo to Lee9710
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gentry78 View Post
dude you really need a back bone
Ouch, try to hurt my feelings a little more next time. Not my backbone, oh no where did it go?
__________________

Proud Owner of the baddest Camaro ever built
ZL1
Lee9710 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:17 AM   #63
steddy2112
 
steddy2112's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 Cobalt SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Salem County, NJ
Posts: 203
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee9710 View Post
Oh yeah, I'm a poser. I have had American Muscle my whole life. No need for a bike when my Trans Am is fast enough. Doing things right includes actually building an engine or transmission, not adding spray or any of that computer non sense. Too bad I don't own a Harley either, since I am nowhere near those guys, but I bet you wouldn't say that to some of them up close and personal. Great job at work, should be making your product but instead arguing on the net. A poser would be someone like you bud, owning a Cobalt and modding it, but then deciding to go to a V8 Camaro. A true enthusiast would be someone who has owned a car like this for a very long time and been into it for even longer. I have had many other cars such as my '05 GTO, my extremely modded and fully rebuilt '97 Trans Am, my new '10 Camaro SS, '08 VW GTI, and my '07 Chevy Silverado. I still have them all and am looking into a Vette or a GT500 for next year after my wife gets her new SUV. So don't tell me I should be driving something else when I know more about rebuilding cars than you ever will. So I didn't hear the sound of the Cobalt, I was pretty far ahead and paying attention to the road ahead of me and feeling the rush of going fast in my new car. So that makes me deaf I guess since I couldn't really hear it anyways over my own car. But thanks for being exactly how I described the other Cobalt driver. I hope you do get your Camaro soon so you can enjoy a great car and not the thing you are in.
A true enthusiast who claims American Muscle, wouldn't own a GTI

You have ran into your own conundrums over and over, and I haven't had to do anything to prove your ignorance.

It is ok by me, you claim to be this oh so knowledgeable person and so far you have proved that all you are is someone who is upset because I called them deaf.

Man don't take it personal, because if you really get this upset every time someone says something offensive you will be pissed off a lot.

I would apologize for calling you hard of hearing, if you didn't sit around and attack me over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over to try to get your point across to me that you didn't appreciate it very much.

You think I did you trying to tell me that I need to get a real job and a real car? Or how about a real bike?

I really didn't but all you proved to me is ignorance is bliss, go about your day and make sure you're not grumpy towards your wife because someone called you hard of hearing over the internet.
__________________
steddy2112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:18 AM   #64
steddy2112
 
steddy2112's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 Cobalt SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Salem County, NJ
Posts: 203
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee9710 View Post
Didn't say that either. I just dont surf the net when I have other more important things to do .......like my job.
You worry about your job and I will worry about mine ok?

my job is getting done, don't worry.
__________________
steddy2112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:23 AM   #65
Gentry78
HOOK'EM
 
Gentry78's Avatar
 
Drives: 97 c1500/92 olds
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,283
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee9710 View Post
Oh yeah, I'm a poser. I have had American Muscle my whole life. No need for a bike when my Trans Am is fast enough. Doing things right includes actually building an engine or transmission, not adding spray or any of that computer non sense. Too bad I don't own a Harley either, since I am nowhere near those guys, but I bet you wouldn't say that to some of them up close and personal. Great job at work, should be making your product but instead arguing on the net. A poser would be someone like you bud, owning a Cobalt and modding it, but then deciding to go to a V8 Camaro. A true enthusiast would be someone who has owned a car like this for a very long time and been into it for even longer. I have had many other cars such as my '05 GTO, my extremely modded and fully rebuilt '97 Trans Am, my new '10 Camaro SS, '08 VW GTI, and my '07 Chevy Silverado. I still have them all and am looking into a Vette or a GT500 for next year after my wife gets her new SUV. So don't tell me I should be driving something else when I know more about rebuilding cars than you ever will. So I didn't hear the sound of the Cobalt, I was pretty far ahead and paying attention to the road ahead of me and feeling the rush of going fast in my new car. So that makes me deaf I guess since I couldn't really hear it anyways over my own car. But thanks for being exactly how I described the other Cobalt driver. I hope you do get your Camaro soon so you can enjoy a great car and not the thing you are in.
buddy your not making your argument sound any better by naming off cars that you have that are all injected and use a computer, but you don't mess with computers even though your cars are highly built. that you say you like to race but don't know the smell of high octane or the difference of t/c and s/c sound.

and i do have a 25,000 dollar Harley and getting a sport bike so i'm not a stereotypical biker but yeah my point is i've been around them fought them, talked shit to them, and partied with them so yeah there not all bad. don't be so scared of them most of them are great people that do great things
Gentry78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:25 AM   #66
steddy2112
 
steddy2112's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 Cobalt SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Salem County, NJ
Posts: 203
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gentry78 View Post
buddy your not making your argument sound any better by naming off cars that you have that are all injected and use a computer, but you don't mess with computers even though your cars are highly built. that you say you like to race but don't know the smell of high octane or the difference of t/c and s/c sound.

and i do have a 25,000 dollar Harley and getting a sport bike so i'm not a stereotypical biker but yeah my point is i've been around them fought them, talked shit to them, and partied with them so yeah there not all bad. don't be so scared of them most of them are great people that do great things
By all means, I didn't mean to come off as all cruiser riders are the same earlier, just as a disclaimer.

__________________
steddy2112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:25 AM   #67
Lee9710
 
Drives: 2013 Summit White ZL1
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Yelm, WA
Posts: 632
Send a message via Yahoo to Lee9710
Too bad the GTI is hers man. Just drive it sometimes while she is gone to keep it running the way it should. Not upset because you called me deaf. Upset because of the way you went about asking the questions. You made it seem like I was a terrible person for not being able to tell the difference by the tone of what you wrote. Truth is, I dont care about anything but my wife getting home safe. So I'm a little stressed out, and can be touchy sometimes. Try having the love of your life leave every 6 months to fight for something you have no control over and then tell me if you are touchy. Didn't mean for the personal attacks, but you should probably think before you write something to see if maybe the person could take it wrong or mis read it a little. It is hard to tell a person's tone or sarcastic ways over typing. I don't care what it sounded like, the major thing was that I just wanted to share a story on here about the L99 Camaro actually doing what it is supposed to for the guys having all the issues with under performance on theirs. So maybe all wont overreact to a few bad stories, so maybe a good story would come up for once. And I wanted to know what I smelled coming from the other car so I would know what it was the next time.
__________________

Proud Owner of the baddest Camaro ever built
ZL1
Lee9710 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:26 AM   #68
Gentry78
HOOK'EM
 
Gentry78's Avatar
 
Drives: 97 c1500/92 olds
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,283
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee9710 View Post
Ouch, try to hurt my feelings a little more next time. Not my backbone, oh no where did it go?
dude if you took it as that well that just shows who you are it's just some friendly advise for next time you are reading comments on the internet of all places

you can clearly see it was just some friendly ribbing that you took personal maybe you should try to go back and reread the first two pages
Gentry78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:27 AM   #69
steddy2112
 
steddy2112's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 Cobalt SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Salem County, NJ
Posts: 203
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gentry78 View Post
dude if you took it as that well that just shows who you are it's just some friendly advise for next time you are reading comments on the internet of all places

you can clearly see it was just some friendly ribbing that you took personal maybe you should try to go back and reread the first two pages
Exactly.
__________________
steddy2112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:29 AM   #70
steddy2112
 
steddy2112's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 Cobalt SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Salem County, NJ
Posts: 203
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee9710 View Post
Too bad the GTI is hers man. Just drive it sometimes while she is gone to keep it running the way it should. Not upset because you called me deaf. Upset because of the way you went about asking the questions. You made it seem like I was a terrible person for not being able to tell the difference by the tone of what you wrote. Truth is, I dont care about anything but my wife getting home safe. So I'm a little stressed out, and can be touchy sometimes. Try having the love of your life leave every 6 months to fight for something you have no control over and then tell me if you are touchy. Didn't mean for the personal attacks, but you should probably think before you write something to see if maybe the person could take it wrong or mis read it a little. It is hard to tell a person's tone or sarcastic ways over typing. I don't care what it sounded like, the major thing was that I just wanted to share a story on here about the L99 Camaro actually doing what it is supposed to for the guys having all the issues with under performance on theirs. So maybe all wont overreact to a few bad stories, so maybe a good story would come up for once. And I wanted to know what I smelled coming from the other car so I would know what it was the next time.
It's whatever man, just learn a little sarcasm and not to be so fast to jump on someone because they were being a 'big meanie' lol.
__________________
steddy2112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:31 AM   #71
Lee9710
 
Drives: 2013 Summit White ZL1
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Yelm, WA
Posts: 632
Send a message via Yahoo to Lee9710
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gentry78 View Post
buddy your not making your argument sound any better by naming off cars that you have that are all injected and use a computer, but you don't mess with computers even though your cars are highly built. that you say you like to race but don't know the smell of high octane or the difference of t/c and s/c sound.

and i do have a 25,000 dollar Harley and getting a sport bike so i'm not a stereotypical biker but yeah my point is i've been around them fought them, talked shit to them, and partied with them so yeah there not all bad. don't be so scared of them most of them are great people that do great things
Out of all the cars I have built, I havent had to mess with the computers in them. So why would I need to know if for one I do not have a T/C or S/C in any of mine, and for two I just use premium gasoline so why does that even matter. I can love to race without knowing what they sound or smell like. I race what I bring and go up against whoever lines up next to me. I don't care what they have, but I will ask them if I need to which is what I did but they guy I raced acted like an ass. So I thought I could get the info here. I swear the Ford guys on here were right when they said this site was for all the haters.
__________________

Proud Owner of the baddest Camaro ever built
ZL1
Lee9710 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:33 AM   #72
steddy2112
 
steddy2112's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 Cobalt SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Salem County, NJ
Posts: 203
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee9710 View Post
Out of all the cars I have built, I havent had to mess with the computers in them. So why would I need to know if for one I do not have a T/C or S/C in any of mine, and for two I just use premium gasoline so why does that even matter. I can love to race without knowing what they sound or smell like. I race what I bring and go up against whoever lines up next to me. I don't care what they have, but I will ask them if I need to which is what I did but they guy I raced acted like an ass. So I thought I could get the info here. I swear the Ford guys on here were right when they said this site was for all the haters.
Little box with an X in the upper right hand corner.

That makes this site disappear man
__________________
steddy2112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:38 AM   #73
Gentry78
HOOK'EM
 
Gentry78's Avatar
 
Drives: 97 c1500/92 olds
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,283
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee9710 View Post
Out of all the cars I have built, I havent had to mess with the computers in them. So why would I need to know if for one I do not have a T/C or S/C in any of mine, and for two I just use premium gasoline so why does that even matter. I can love to race without knowing what they sound or smell like. I race what I bring and go up against whoever lines up next to me. I don't care what they have, but I will ask them if I need to which is what I did but they guy I raced acted like an ass. So I thought I could get the info here. I swear the Ford guys on here were right when they said this site was for all the haters.
all i meant was if you enjoy racing as you clearly do i would figure that you may have spent some time at a track or hanging out with your buddies and bs'ed over cars and picked up on those little things

its just stuff you will learn over time and by being around that world

thats all i was trying to say
Gentry78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:39 AM   #74
Gentry78
HOOK'EM
 
Gentry78's Avatar
 
Drives: 97 c1500/92 olds
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,283
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee9710 View Post
This place started as a great place to chat and now it is just a place to verbally attack others. Hope you fags have a good night chatting and agreeing with each other all night. Take care Camaro5. Was good until all the other non-muscle car people got on with all their ricers and pieces of junk cars.
hey if you really want to be gone i can make that happen

just say the word
Gentry78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2009, 03:40 AM   #75
Lee9710
 
Drives: 2013 Summit White ZL1
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Yelm, WA
Posts: 632
Send a message via Yahoo to Lee9710
None of my friends knew either. The smell was very distinct. And it was hard to hear with the windows up and me pulling away from it all night. OOOOOOOOHHHHHH NNNNNNOOOOOOO, NNNOOOOTTTT CCCAAAMMMAAARRROOO55555, my life would be over if I got kicked off.
__________________

Proud Owner of the baddest Camaro ever built
ZL1
Lee9710 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Camaro V6 vrs Cobalt SS??? 65bus 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 76 05-09-2010 11:41 PM
V6 Camaro and SS Cobalt will NOT get its ass bust by Genesis coupe/ Challenger might Muscle Master General Automotive + Other Cars Discussion 38 10-17-2008 01:55 PM
Considering a V6 Camaro... New guy on the forum... SS4EVER Camaro V6 LLT Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 40 09-13-2008 03:06 AM
Take a lap with the Cobalt SS Mr. Wyndham General Automotive + Other Cars Discussion 2 03-28-2008 01:31 AM
GM Cancels Cobalt SS Supercharged Mr. Wyndham General Automotive + Other Cars Discussion 35 07-31-2007 01:00 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.