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Old 12-16-2013, 10:55 AM   #1
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Cool I'll just leave this here...



Feel free to ask any questions regarding this kit.

This car has been complete for a little bit now but we've honestly been so busy I never put anything up.

On our Mustang dyno we made 336RWHP and 328RWTQ on just 9psi of boost! That's a gain of 90 wheel horsepower over stock and 100 more torque at just 3500 RPM!

That's around 15 more rwhp than a stock auto SS will make here and the V6 car is 400 lbs lighter!


I'll post a couple teaser pictures for now,

What we started with..










The finished kit has been fully powdercoated as well..






I'll post some more in a bit.

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Old 12-16-2013, 11:04 AM   #2
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:29 PM   #3
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Congrats looks like a nice kit but for twins them numbers are low even on the Mustang. What turbos are you using.

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Old 12-16-2013, 12:41 PM   #4
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do you have internally gated turbos and external wastegate.... is the internal held shut...... or welded shut...???
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Old 12-16-2013, 03:11 PM   #5
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looks great, but i have the same concern as hunter, looks low for twins at 9 psi, should be closer to 400
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Old 12-16-2013, 03:46 PM   #6
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Maybe more tuning? Or just playing it safe
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Old 12-16-2013, 03:56 PM   #7
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Congrats looks like a nice kit but for twins them numbers are low even on the Mustang. What turbos are you using.

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Well consider the fact that we are making 90 more wheel horsepower than it did when it was stock. Not to mention 100 more torque at 3500 RPM!

Turbos are Borg Warner EFR 6258's.

Don't get caught up on the number itself, our mustang dyno is known as the heartbreaker as it never gives out the numbers people expect lol Most recently we had a corvette put down 650 wheel on our dyno and we then took it over to a local dynojet... the same car same setup etc put down 775rwhp! Granted thats a higher hp car through a manual trans but you get the idea. The dyno is merely a tool we use for tuning and to measure hp gains.
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Old 12-16-2013, 04:02 PM   #8
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Most of us are aware that a dyno is a tool what tune solution did yall use.

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Old 12-17-2013, 09:37 AM   #9
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We used a mix of HP Tuners and EFI Live on this car.
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:38 AM   #10
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from New Jersey. I wonder if they would melt the snow?
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:06 PM   #11
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just curious does it have the llt or lfx?
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:25 PM   #12
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Old 12-17-2013, 01:37 PM   #13
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It's an LFX.
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Old 12-17-2013, 05:19 PM   #14
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This is very cool! Always good to see more companies diving into FI for the V6.

Joe most here understand well enough that your dyno may show low numbers, and that is fine. I think what might be bugging people is that you said the car only made a bit more power than a stock L99 SS. Still great of course, but IPS offers a TT LFX kit making 450+ rwhp. Sure on your dyno that might only be 380 - 400rwhp or so, but its still way more than the L99 would ever dream of.

But that could be because the IPS kit may have boost levels considerably higher than 9psi, so I really can't comment on that, and I'm not implying your kit SHOULD be making more power. Just wanted to point out the above. Have you toyed around with higher boost, or is that what you feel is a safe zone for the LFX?

Again, always great to see these kits and thanks for putting in the work!
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Old 12-17-2013, 05:34 PM   #15
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Not being critical here, just trying to provide some info. I have the same turbos on my car and have lowered the CR to 10:1, yet I make 450+ RWHP at 9 psi. The GPI dyno reads right at 320-330 RWHP for a stock L99 SS, so it seems to be right on the button for expected HP. So even if yours is conservative, I don't think it is 110 RWHP conservative. Something seems to be wrong. The pictures look great so I don't doubt your workmanship, I would just look at the tune a little closer and see if you didn't miss something there. Hit up Rhino79 if you have any questions. He's been working closely with the guys at EFI to get my tune right.
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Old 12-17-2013, 09:11 PM   #16
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Not to talk you down or anything but before I had a boost controller put into my car it made around 420 whp at 8.5 to 9#
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:48 PM   #17
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This is very cool! Always good to see more companies diving into FI for the V6.

But that could be because the IPS kit may have boost levels considerably higher than 9psi, so I really can't comment on that, and I'm not implying your kit SHOULD be making more power. Just wanted to point out the above. Have you toyed around with higher boost, or is that what you feel is a safe zone for the LFX?

Again, always great to see these kits and thanks for putting in the work!
With the Compression of these motors the way they are, 9-9.5 psi is the most we felt like pushing it too. If we added meth into the mix we would have no problem adding more boost. These turbos are good for way more than we will ever throw at these motors so we are good in that area.

This particular car was built for a 18 yr old high school kid kid by his father, so it was designed to be as conservative as possible. Once the tracks around here open up again we will be doing some track testing with the car to get an idea of where we are at.

I may even throw it up on the local dynojet to compare the numbers for you guys.
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Old 12-18-2013, 08:27 AM   #18
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We have a Mustang dyno as well as the DynoJet so the best thing to do is always reference to a stock or base-line number. If a dyno reads high or low it will effect the stock number just as much as the final number.

We rarely do it on the DynoJet because its numbers are always the benchmark but just tossing it out there.
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PS -- TuneTime, what does your fastest IRS SS run?

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Old 12-18-2013, 10:26 AM   #19
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PS -- TuneTime, what does your fastest IRS SS run?
8.39@159.8 was the fastest pass so far.

What did your car run...?
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Old 12-18-2013, 10:42 AM   #20
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Nice car and kit! But I agree 9psi's from twin EFR's is massively low. I'm not knocking your car at all. Just pointing out that with that set up it should be making more than 90 extra hp with 9psi's as a base. Keep us posted on this awesome ride and lucky kid also. Subscribed!

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Old 12-18-2013, 01:30 PM   #21
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8.39@159.8 was the fastest pass so far.

What did your car run...?
I knew the American Racing/Farks car went 8.39 but didn't realize there was anybody else that was a tick faster than the 8.40 Darth Emma's car ran.
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Old 12-18-2013, 02:03 PM   #22
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I knew the American Racing/Farks car went 8.39 but didn't realize there was anybody else that was a tick faster than the 8.40 Darth Emma's car ran.
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The American Racing/Farks Camaro IS our car...

Hence our name on the side of it.

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Old 12-18-2013, 02:52 PM   #23
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Hey Joe, you ever mess with a LLT V6 before?

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Old 12-18-2013, 03:31 PM   #24
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Will you be offer this to forum members?

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Old 12-18-2013, 03:44 PM   #25
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That looks like a very nice Kit, congrats
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