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Old 12-16-2013, 08:58 PM   #1
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Solid subframe bushings or toe/trailings?

If you had to choose between a solid subframe bushing (ADM or Pfadt), or upgraded toe rod & trailing arms, which would you pick?

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Old 12-16-2013, 09:10 PM   #2
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Start with the solid subframe bushings first! They are the foundation of the entire IRS! Actually, if you can swing it financially, do everything all at once! You'll have to lower the cradle to do the driver's side toe link so might as well do it when you have the cradle down for the bushings! Also, when you do the trailing arms make sure you replace the outer bushings if the don't come with the arms.
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Old 12-16-2013, 09:18 PM   #3
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100% agree with everything Mike said!!!! Good Advice!!!
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Old 12-16-2013, 09:22 PM   #4
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I agree^ Solid Subframe bushings first.
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Old 12-16-2013, 10:03 PM   #5
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I just wasn't sure if the step from inserts to solid was as good as the upgrade on the toe rods/trailing arms (with outer bushing).
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:41 AM   #6
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I just wasn't sure if the step from inserts to solid was as good as the upgrade on the toe rods/trailing arms (with outer bushing).
Well inserts are better than just then the factory bushings (obviously)

But if you can swing it, full replacement solid bushings are the way to go. Cradle has to come down anyways but thats jmo.

Went with the LSR toe links, trailing arms and they have definitely improved the handling, I also need to get some outer bushings.
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I had inserts but didn't feel much improvement till I went with the full bushings!
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:39 AM   #8
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You have to drop the cradle a little bit to get the toe rod bolts out anyway. Do it all.
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:45 PM   #9
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It is best to do them both at once to avoid doing things twice. I also recommend doing the Upper control arm bushings while you are doing the subframe bushings.

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