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Old 01-09-2014, 02:41 PM   #576
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Can't believe this keeps getting more messed up and though GM may have no obligation this is a clear example of when they could be a great mediator and recieve some great PR for assisting a resolution in this matter. Best part is this is this can be classified two ways you have the criminal case because it was theft being the dealership was closed. The car owner should get a new car just from that then the civil case which he could actually come out on top with again. The owner needs to take some intelligent advice sit down with mr. hooper in front of a computer for 20 mins and let him put together his new ZL1 at what he payed for and transfer his loan recouping any discrepancy with the two so that it sits where he is now on payments. Now transfering the loan from a bank is a mess but the financial people at dealerships are jackals when it comes to this stuff s it's not some far out idea.
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Old 01-09-2014, 02:45 PM   #577
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GAP insurance covers the difference between what the insurance is paying out on the car and what you still owe on your car loan. So if he owed 50K on his car loan and the insurance was going to give him 40, the GAP insurance would cover that extra 10K to pay off the loan. If he only owed 30K on the car, GAP insurance wouldn't kick in.

GAP insurance is generally for those that put little or nothing down on a car to help cover the immediate depreciation hit in case the car is totalled.
Yes, I know that and so if the OP owed more than his insurance would cover then he'd be whole. We have not been told what the numbers are.



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Going back and reading the OP it sounds like he paid for it cash? Trading his 5th Gen and selling a classic Camaro.

So, yes, GAP would not make sense in this case. I was thrown off when he said he's making payments on a Camaro that is wrecked. Probably had to finance a small amount after selling the other two cars.
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Old 01-09-2014, 03:53 PM   #578
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GAP insurance covers the difference between what the insurance is paying out on the car and what you still owe on your car loan. So if he owed 50K on his car loan and the insurance was going to give him 40, the GAP insurance would cover that extra 10K to pay off the loan. If he only owed 30K on the car, GAP insurance wouldn't kick in.

GAP insurance is generally for those that put little or nothing down on a car to help cover the immediate depreciation hit in case the car is totalled.
Exactly. GAP will not compensate Mr. Hooper for any equity he has in the car.
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Old 01-09-2014, 04:22 PM   #579
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I'm not sure why somebody hasn't suggested this yet, but I think it's time for our Fbodfather to head that way with some black SUVs and get this taken care of. This is bad pub, not just for the dealer, but for Chevrolet and GM as a whole.

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As soon as he got involved, GM bought back the C7 !!! enough said!
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Old 01-09-2014, 04:32 PM   #580
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Justin, one big difference here vs. all the other examples you have listed is one giant one. The dealership was closed in this one unlike the others you posted. In those situations techs etc. drove vehicles during business hours. This one is absolutely different. In this case it is more a case of theft, no more no less.
This is actually a really good point. At that point though would the dealership be liable in this case? I mean from a perspective of if they where closed that is in fact stealing and the dealership would not be liable since it was their employee off hours commiting a felony. Thus making the empoylee liable? Granted the employee probably doesnt make near enough to afford a ZL1. That makes sense to me. I am by NO means a lawyer but logically speaking while I think about it that does make a little sense. Am I correct or incorrect in this thought?
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I have been following this since it was first posted.
What keeps popping up in my mind is that the op shouldn't go after the dealership (even though they have the means to replace the car), but rather the crook (service writer) that stole the car. Because that is what happened, he stole that car with the intention of joy riding in it and never getting caught. Can't you go after him for damages? Shouldn't he be charged with auto theft?
He knew full well what he was doing.
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Old 01-09-2014, 04:46 PM   #582
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I would pull the dealership through the mud !! Let all TV Programms ,newspapers and all the People know how they do their Business !!!

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Heh. Got blocked from their Facebook page in record time. Gotta love their damage control team. At least they can afford that still.
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I'm wondering why we haven't just started spamming their dealership with Phone calls on the subject to disrupt their business.
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That is likely spot-on. It says several times it was stolen on a Sunday when the store was closed. Because of how this went down the real person the OP can go after is obviously the thief. The dealer seems to be in the middle of a mess not of their own doing by any stretch but the act of one rogue individual who acted on his own when the car was stolen.
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Heh. Got blocked from their Facebook page in record time. Gotta love their damage control team. At least they can afford that still.
Yeap, got in there just in time to post the last comment
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That is likely spot-on. It says several times it was stolen on a Sunday when the store was closed. Because of how this went down the real person the OP can go after is obviously the thief. The dealer seems to be in the middle of a mess not of their own doing by any stretch but the act of one rogue individual who acted on his own when the car was stolen.
I worked for a dealership at one point. Generally the dealership at one point would have to step up but if they haven't done anything to the employee for doing this then they may be trying to hide it which would also put them at fault. I just thought of that. I mean thinking about it was this employee fired or is the pos still working for the dealership? If he is then at that point it would be also on the dealerships lap for not handling accordingly either.
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Former employee definitely terminated immediately according to previous posts.
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They just deleted their Facebook page. I wonder why? Haha
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I think the insurance thing is a joke. The right thing is a new zl1. And ya I noticed they removed it.
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Facebook page for them went to private group. Lmao
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Someone posted the link to yellowbullet. The thread is right here:

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If anyone wants to get creative someone on the yellow bullet forum found the guy that wrecked the cars profile FYI. I will not post that link.
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The dealership should be prosecuting the thief that violated their protocol and stole from them (a possession under their care). Should the keys not have been locked up? Should the car not have been in a gated area? If this service writer had all the keys and alarm codes to get the car, then he should be pursued criminally by the dealership first and foremost. How can the dealer not be responsible for the car?

Even if off hours, the guy had privileges of an employee that facilitated the crime. The dealer is at least at fault for hiring someone and giving them those privileges.
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If anyone wants to get creative someone on the yellow bullet forum found the guy that wrecked the cars profile FYI. I will not post that link.
I don't agree with what the guy did, but he may have living breathing children (who are more valuable than any car) and he should be left entirely to the government in dealing with him.

I'm disappointed to see the lack of respect for human life and livelihood exhibited by even mentioning a source for personal details in this situation.

Yes, the man may be a criminal, but recognize that family and those connected to him should not share the burden of his actions.
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I don't agree with what the guy did, but he may have living breathing children (who are more valuable than any car) and he should be left entirely to the government in dealing with him.

I'm disappointed to see the lack of respect for human life and livelihood exhibited by even mentioning a source for personal details in this situation.

Yes, the man may be a criminal, but recognize that family and those connected to him should not share the burden of his actions.
The link was posted above to yellow bullet. If you could read then it didn't matter that I pointed it out. Someone else would of. The guy and dealership are pathetic for all of this. Plus with his name plastered over some articles it doesn't matter. Someone would of seen that anyways
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