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Old 12-30-2013, 04:09 PM   #51
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How much AFR Drops depends in your set, airflow, fuel, and settings/nozzle sizes. I can drop .4 or 2 points depend on how much I spray.
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Old 12-30-2013, 04:56 PM   #52
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Alky Control
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Can see AFR and IAT.

Without meth end of dyno pull was ~140F, with meth ~75F on a 70F day. That is stationary on dyno. On street temps are usually 10-20F below ambient when meth is on.
You should know this. What meth kit are the boys using at AGP?
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Old 12-30-2013, 05:39 PM   #53
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You should know this. What meth kit are the boys using at AGP?
They are using AEM controllers but a lot of the other parts they are making in house. Kit comes preplumbed for meth so they are working on an add on option where you plug in the meth kit and are good to go. All lines/mounts/etc all setup.

So I would say it is an AEM/AGP hybird kit.

That being said, I have an alky control kit. I just eat lunch there daily BSing about cars so I would call Kevin if you want more info. Today we barely talked about cars, was mostly gun talk. Got to shoot my new AGP takedown 10-22 rifle I got for x-mas. Tons of fun.
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Old 12-30-2013, 06:43 PM   #54
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The only gauge I could find to give you IAT and AFR. Or whatever else you want for that matter.
http://www.veisystems.com/products/c...r-Fuel%20Ratio
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:00 PM   #55
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Most customer cars I tune in at 11-1 to 11.6-1 on meth and without it they are about 1 point leaner.

My personal car is almost 3 points richer.
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Check dynotunenitrous. They have a nice digital gauge that has a split screen so it is 2 gauges. I have one with AFR and Boost, matches the stock dash color pretty well.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:48 PM   #57
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Aeroforce will do IAT and AFR, or whatever 2 things you want it to display.
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:20 PM   #58
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:57 PM   #59
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will the aeroforce translate a ZL1/ZR1 map sensor as psi?
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:14 PM   #60
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will the aeroforce translate a ZL1/ZR1 map sensor as psi?
Yes, provided you update the tune with the necessary parameters. I am running aeroforce gauges using a ZR1 sensor. You can also have it display Kpa as well (again the tune needs tweaked to properly recognize/display the ZR1 sensor)
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:03 PM   #61
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This kind of relates to this but what iat sensors are you all using? I have a iat2 from a lsa/ls9 and it reads like 15-20░ below zero. I told tuner i had it and he supposedly adjusted for it? Ive read where others have similar problems.
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:04 PM   #62
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Old 12-31-2013, 01:20 AM   #63
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Yeah..my tune is using it
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Old 12-31-2013, 02:03 AM   #64
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anyone got a pic of that optional 4 gal trunk cell? installed.
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Has anyone seen the AIS 4 gal meth tank in a convertible trunk? JDP is saying it won't fit. I really don't want to use a cheesy windshield washer reservoir.
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Old 12-31-2013, 07:51 PM   #66
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How long will 3qrts of meth last?
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How long is last depends on how much is set to spray and how often you drive it hard.
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Old 12-31-2013, 08:17 PM   #68
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How long is last depends on how much is set to spray and how often you drive it hard.
Are we talking like a day? One night at the track? Around town I'm not constantly in boost, and I don't take long rides in the car. It's not a daily driver, more of a weekend car.
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Too small IMO.
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Too small IMO.
What do you think about this one? 3 gal.

I really like the small one for under the hood tho. You think I will empty it too fast?
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I really prefer the alky tank under the hood...but for our cars the trunk tanks are a better option. And I think anything over a gallon is reasonable. 3-4 gallons will go for a while...like I would bet a gas tank of beating on it.
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Old 01-01-2014, 12:53 AM   #72
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What do you think about this one? 3 gal.

I really like the small one for under the hood tho. You think I will empty it too fast?
It all depends on how hard you're gonna hit that point of boost to activate. Having a vert doesn't exactly give us a lot of room in the trunk. If you cruise around a lot and don't get on it too much you can make a gallon go for 2-4 weeks. If you know you're gonna be racing a lot, then maybe go for a bigger tank. Otherwise, don't overdo it. I purchased a 5-gallon bucket earlier this year and I haven't used all of it, maybe a little over half of it.
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