NY Times: G.M. Says Camaro Transmission Problem Is Fixed - Camaro Forum - 2011 Camaro 2010 Camaro / Camaro Z28 SS Forums

camaro5 · 07-21-2009, 02:25 AM

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General Motors has figured out what was causing failures of some 6-speed transmissions on its high-performance 2010 Camaro SS models, but the automaker is keeping it secret, said Adam Denison, a G.M. spokesman.

“I think they want to keep that one pretty close to their chest,” he said.

Mr. Denison said the failures of the output shaft, which was reported by Autoblog.com last week, occurred during standing-start, hard acceleration, with the engine at 5,000 to 6,000 revolutions per minute. He said about a dozen owners reported problems.

“It has been a very limited number,” he said. “It is not widespread.” He said the problem had been fixed.

The SS uses the 6.2 liter V-8 with a Tremec 6-speed manual transmission.

Mr. Denison said SS production at the Oshawa plant in Ontario was continuing, but a few cars were being held for inspection to make sure the problem had been resolved.

He said a recall was not necessary.

Smoke em if you got em!!

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...blem-is-fixed/

Countach · 07-21-2009, 02:26 AM

Zabo · 07-21-2009, 02:27 AM

More importantly: Why does the NY Times give a damn?

Jetsco · 07-21-2009, 02:29 AM

Great news!

BlueMarlin · 07-21-2009, 02:34 AM

i'm not much of a yay guy, but this one deserves it - yay

Camaro King · 07-21-2009, 02:39 AM

This is true! the problem was the input shaft blowing apart!
They will start shiping SS's again on aug.1 09...
They never did stop building!
Just put a hold on them.

*TAG UR IT* · 07-21-2009, 02:53 AM

Cool! So that means I can rev it up to 6k RPM's and DUMP THE CLUTCH!!!

I'm kidding....i would not recommend that to anyone....

LS3SSRS · 07-21-2009, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

Cool! So that means I can rev it up to 6k RPM's and DUMP THE CLUTCH!!!

I'm kidding....i would not recommend that to anyone....

uhh, my thoughts exactly. been waiting to hammer on it lol
have fun

JDBeck23 · 07-21-2009, 03:42 AM

I think GM has a responsibility to inform us as to what exactly the problem was and how they intend to fix it.

I think it's a bit absurd that they are "holding the info close to their chest".

iwanttogofastNY · 07-21-2009, 06:39 AM

rayhawk · 07-21-2009, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JDBeck23

I think GM has a responsibility to inform us as to what exactly the problem was and how they intend to fix it.

I think it's a bit absurd that they are "holding the info close to their chest".

I don't see how it matters, some of the parts are defective, they will replace those that are, do you really want to know if the shaft was machined wrong, or tempered wrong? I don't see how that knowledge would make any difference to the consumer. If it is going to break, it is going to happen long before your warranty is up, IMO.

Verio · 07-21-2009, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JDBeck23

I think GM has a responsibility to inform us as to what exactly the problem was and how they intend to fix it.

I think it's a bit absurd that they are "holding the info close to their chest".

I think GM's only responsibility is to sell you a damn car and warranty the repairs for 3 years/36k miles or 5years/100k.

Quit acting like you're OWED something from a car manufacturer.

camarolt76 · 07-21-2009, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by rayhawk

I don't see how it matters, some of the parts are defective, they will replace those that are, do you really want to know if the shaft was machined wrong, or tempered wrong? I don't see how that knowledge would make any difference to the consumer. If it is going to break, it is going to happen long before your warranty is up, IMO.

I agree!

I don't really need to know all the details. I only need to know that they have fixed the problem, and that my car will not need to be recalled.

rich's 2SS · 07-21-2009, 07:14 AM

founf this on the web

Bring back in the bad old days of the original pony cars, when available tire traction from 78 and 70-series bias-ply tires was but a fraction of that offered through today’s Z-rated 50 and 45-series gumballs. When Junior picked up his ‘69 Camaro 396 from the showroom and promptly pulled a 5,000 RPM launch from the first stop sign, those glorifed bicycle tires on back spun readily, acting as a mechanical fuse for drivetrain parts that otherwise would have grenaded or twisted like taffy.

Oh, who am I kidding? Those old pony cars broke on a regular basis as well. Perhaps GM should just replace “6,000″ on the Camaro’s tachometer with “$6,000″. Maybe then those aging boomers would stop side-stepping the clutch pedal.

BTW, there’s nothing more ironic than seeing an new orange Camaro, bestriped and shod with massive rims, driving down the highway for 20 minutes with the left turn signal on…

— Paul

Rogue Leader · 07-21-2009, 07:42 AM

It seemed from the stories we heard that the cars were breaking pretty soon after being driven off the lot am I right? Maybe they figured the ones that will blow up have already.. hehehe

TomServo · 07-21-2009, 08:11 AM

My son has VIN 4486. I hope he hears from GM that all is well with his car.

Vash · 07-21-2009, 08:43 AM

Hum wonders if it's a launch control programming issue.

Of course the launch control is what is generating the massive dump of energy into the drive train.

ljustin293 · 07-21-2009, 08:58 AM

FenwickHockey65 · 07-21-2009, 09:07 AM

Thank God...

SlingShot · 07-21-2009, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich's 2SS

founf this on the web

Bring back in the bad old days of the original pony cars, when available tire traction from 78 and 70-series bias-ply tires was but a fraction of that offered through today’s Z-rated 50 and 45-series gumballs. When Junior picked up his ‘69 Camaro 396 from the showroom and promptly pulled a 5,000 RPM launch from the first stop sign, those glorifed bicycle tires on back spun readily, acting as a mechanical fuse for drivetrain parts that otherwise would have grenaded or twisted like taffy.

Oh, who am I kidding? Those old pony cars broke on a regular basis as well. Perhaps GM should just replace “6,000″ on the Camaro’s tachometer with “$6,000″. Maybe then those aging boomers would stop side-stepping the clutch pedal.

BTW, there’s nothing more ironic than seeing an new orange Camaro, bestriped and shod with massive rims, driving down the highway for 20 minutes with the left turn signal on…

— Paul

Now that's funny right there !!!!

UCF w00t · 07-21-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TomServo

My son has VIN 4486. I hope he hears from GM that all is well with his car.

So you want them to write a letter to all Camaro owners and say "your car is OK"? That's kinda ridiculous.... You can assume your car is OK until told or you find otherwise. Besides, your son's car was built long before these problems started showing up. There's no reason at all to think his would be affected by this.

Cricket912 · 07-21-2009, 09:51 AM

So I got bumped up a week because of the problem does this me I will go back to TPW of 8/03?

Rogue Leader · 07-21-2009, 10:16 AM

Its been proven here that the cars that will break do on the first hard launch or shift, sooooo the easiest way to alay all fears is find a time where you don't need to be somewhere (cause if the car breaks you will be busy for a couple hours), and a clear stretch of road or parking lot where there are no cops. Engage and test launch control. If it works and your car doesn't blow up, you're set. If it does break, press the onstar button, get towed to the dealer, and a new transmission will be installed within 2 days. You're gonna need the new transmission either way, why beat around the bush and worry.

Teddydog · 07-21-2009, 10:58 AM

I don't see how it could be launch control related. Isn't that only on the automatics? And the failures are only on manuals.

Rob

duder4thgen · 07-21-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Teddydog

I don't see how it could be launch control related. Isn't that only on the automatics? And the failures are only on manuals.

Rob

Launch control is on the manuals, but there is no way the issue is caused by it. For the type of clean break that was happening to those output shafts Tremec had to have screwed something up with the integrity of the metal on a small batch of transmissions. A factory clutch should burn out long, long before you ever snap an output shaft that was cast/forged right.

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Camaro King Drives: 2004 corvette Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 8 View My Garage	This is true! the problem was the input shaft blowing apart! They will start shiping SS's again on aug.1 09... They never did stop building! Just put a hold on them.

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rich's 2SS Drives: 2SS/RS CGM White stripes P/wh Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hobe Sound Florida Posts: 94	founf this on the web Bring back in the bad old days of the original pony cars, when available tire traction from 78 and 70-series bias-ply tires was but a fraction of that offered through today’s Z-rated 50 and 45-series gumballs. When Junior picked up his ‘69 Camaro 396 from the showroom and promptly pulled a 5,000 RPM launch from the first stop sign, those glorifed bicycle tires on back spun readily, acting as a mechanical fuse for drivetrain parts that otherwise would have grenaded or twisted like taffy. Oh, who am I kidding? Those old pony cars broke on a regular basis as well. Perhaps GM should just replace “6,000″ on the Camaro’s tachometer with “$6,000″. Maybe then those aging boomers would stop side-stepping the clutch pedal. BTW, there’s nothing more ironic than seeing an new orange Camaro, bestriped and shod with massive rims, driving down the highway for 20 minutes with the left turn signal on… — Paul

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Vash Drives: 00 Blazer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,148	Hum wonders if it's a launch control programming issue. Of course the launch control is what is generating the massive dump of energy into the drive train.

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Cricket912 Drives: 2010 2LT/RS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 74	So I got bumped up a week because of the problem does this me I will go back to TPW of 8/03? __________________

07-21-2009, 10:16 AM	#23
Rogue Leader Iatefiberglassinsulation Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS M6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Long Island Posts: 2,333 View My Garage	Its been proven here that the cars that will break do on the first hard launch or shift, sooooo the easiest way to alay all fears is find a time where you don't need to be somewhere (cause if the car breaks you will be busy for a couple hours), and a clear stretch of road or parking lot where there are no cops. Engage and test launch control. If it works and your car doesn't blow up, you're set. If it does break, press the onstar button, get towed to the dealer, and a new transmission will be installed within 2 days. You're gonna need the new transmission either way, why beat around the bush and worry. __________________ I'm Brick Tamland. People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks. Years later, a doctor will tell me that I have an I.Q. of 48 and am what some people call mentally retarded.

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Teddydog Drives: ABM 2LT M6 RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dupont, WA Posts: 319	I don't see how it could be launch control related. Isn't that only on the automatics? And the failures are only on manuals. Rob

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