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Old 01-22-2014, 12:55 PM   #18
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This may be getto but adding a clear fuel filter before the check valve will help reduce the oil induction.
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Old 01-22-2014, 02:25 PM   #19
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I don't have the IPF S/C, but even I appreciate you posting this up.

Sometimes I wonder if the issue with the can filling with water doesn't have to do with where a person lives? (causing moisture build up) Or perhaps the type of driving or duration of driving that causes it?

With likely hundreds of these kits sold, if there was a large issue with water in the can you'd think we'd see more of this on here, or IPF would have taken a look by now. Like SIXJAK states...his seems to be fine as long as he drains it every few weeks.

But I remember another person with the IPF S/C kit and the same issue just like MagnumForce, so I know it isn't just him.

Really glad you posted this up though. I think it will be beneficial!
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Old 01-22-2014, 03:01 PM   #20
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Thanks. Too bad my drawing skills suck. I drove my car 17 miles one way to work 4 times a day, plenty of time to heat the oil up. Its been humid here though when I had the old can on. I don't think the IPF can is good for long term. I would have a pool of oil in my throttle body after a while, had to clean it thinking it was causing my car to stall.

I've been thinking about how the clean side should be if you put a catch can on it. I would probably have someway of bypassing the can if air is going from the intake tube to the crankcase. If air is being drawn out of the crankcase then go through the catch can.

I will need to see how my fresh air line looks after a trip down the drag strip.
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Old 01-22-2014, 03:23 PM   #21
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I am surprised that six isn't having the moisture build up. I haven't seen one yet that isn't catching a lot of moisture with the IPF setup utilizing their can or any other brand. In the winter I empty the can every 2 tanks of gas. I empty out just about cup of water/oil/gas mixture.
I am going back to the setup with two lines vacuum lines on the dirty side and a RX/1le separator on the clean side. The separator will grab any residue if the clean side goes into a vacuum mode.
I think GM finally got it right with the addition of the separator.
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Old 01-22-2014, 05:31 PM   #22
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part # 12616915 is the tube with the elbow for the intake on a LLT motor, 12616908 and 12616909 are the 2 orings for the tube...

12638437 is the tube and 12616909 is the oring, for the LFX
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:03 PM   #23
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part # 12616915 is the tube with the elbow for the intake on a LLT motor, 12616908 and 12616909 are the 2 orings for the tube...

12638437 is the tube and 12616909 is the oring, for the LFX
Kool thanks . Will order with catch can
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:18 PM   #24
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Great thread, Going to try the setup like Nutt, but with the GM separator.

As for my IPF can, there was a few ounces of water and moisture inside the can, little to NO oil. Only checked it once since the install, but with taking it off i'll see what i find.
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part # 12616915 is the tube with the elbow for the intake on a LLT motor, 12616908 and 12616909 are the 2 orings for the tube...

12638437 is the tube and 12616909 is the oring, for the LFX

Clint you are amazing ! Even the guys at my dealership were stumped and had to call GM. Hope you enjoying Texas !
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Old 01-22-2014, 07:09 PM   #26
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Clint you are amazing ! Even the guys at my dealership were stumped and had to call GM. Hope you enjoying Texas !
Remember, I am the GM Wholesale District Parts Manager for South Texas, I have access to catalogs...
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Didn't have to wait for a trip down the drag strip, I need 2 catch cans. Took off the intake tube pipe in front of the supercharger inlet and a pool of oil in the supercharger inlet. Going to see about ordering a dual check valve can from elite engineering. Too bad this is going to cut into the funds for my wife's driveshaft, she needs that to beat up some Camaro V6's that talk crap but don't show up at the track.

Going to draw up a schematic of how I'm going to do the final setup, will post it tonight.
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Didn't have to wait for a trip down the drag strip, I need 2 catch cans. Took off the intake tube pipe in front of the supercharger inlet and a pool of oil in the supercharger inlet. Going to see about ordering a dual check valve can from elite engineering. Too bad this is going to cut into the funds for my wife's driveshaft, she needs that to beat up some Camaro V6's that talk crap but don't show up at the track.

Going to draw up a schematic of how I'm going to do the final setup, will post it tonight.
Looking forward to it. I actually got a couple 1/2" fittings with no check valves , just use one for the intake manifold. Then two regular fittings for the fresh line and dirty line.
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Here is another one of my crappy drawings. Its hard to draw on this Surface, but its a nice little feature. The problem I have with my current setup is that the vacuum is so strong from the supercharger I'm drawing oil straight out of the clean side tube. Going to try this setup when I can.

This setup uses 2 Elite Engineering V2 catch cans. One is a single check valve output, the other is a dual check valve output. The dual one will go on the passenger side, the inlet (top of the can) goes to the passenger side valve cover. 1 of the outlets goes to the intake manifold, the other goes to the intake tube in front of the supercharger.

The single check valve catch can will go on the drivers side. The inlet connects to the drivers side valve cover, the outlet goes to the intake tube in front of the supercharger. This side will require 2 T connectors and a second check valve. The line that goes from the valve cover will branch off, one line going to the catch can, the second going to a check valve that doesn't allow air to the intake tube. These 2 lines will reconnect to each other after the catch can and check valve. Then the line will connect to the dirty side line and to the intake tube.

When the intake manifold is under vacuum, the air will go from the intake tube, bypass the catch can and into the crankcase. The dirty air will then go through the catch can and into the intake manifold. The dual check valve will prevent air from bypassing the crankcase being sucked in from the intake tube straight to the intake manifold.

During boost the crankcase will vent through both catch cans and into the intake tube.

I'm going to have to ask Elite Engineering how their can will work with reverse flow, that will eliminate having to try to find T connectors and a check valve.
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Do yourself a favor and look into a 1LE separator instead of the clean side can. This is what it's made for.
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here is a pdf of my current setup. the line from the sc intake is still attached to the ipf can for now. reverse flow. seems to be working
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here is a pdf of my current setup. the line from the sc intake is still attached to the ipf can for now. reverse flow. seems to be working
Hey skycraft on your schamadic you have you your passger side going to your intake inlet , do you aslo have a t connecter tied in to your Ipf can aswell ?

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All this mentioned of metered. What oriface size are you using?
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Old 01-23-2014, 10:09 AM   #34
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All this mentioned of metered. What oriface size are you using?

I use the word metered air as I am keeping my PCV system close loop as is oem. There are no breathers in the system bringing in air that has not been input by the MAF. Bringing in extra air not metered by the MAF can cause unstable idle and other performance problems.
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