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Old 01-30-2014, 12:09 AM   #1
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Oil, Oil, and more Oil!

For those of you that have done a cam swap, what oil are you using, and why? I've heard many people say M1 is fine but I am thinking of switching over to vr1. For those who are using vr1 are you using the conventional (silver bottle) or synthetic (black bottle)?
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Old 01-30-2014, 05:00 AM   #2
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Use Royal Purple HPS 10w30. What the shop recommends for the zinc
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Old 01-30-2014, 05:29 AM   #3
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VR1 Synthetic! I have been using Valvoline for a long time!
I first started using Valvoline back in the late 70's after an older fellow told me a story about Valvoline! He raced VW rails( I had a pretty fast one) and ran Castrol. Castrol is supposedly made for air cooled engines. He took his car out on the track and shortly after, his red oil light lit up! He brought the car in, dumped the Castrol out and replaced it with Valvoline! He got back out on the track and the light never came on again!! ..... That's what sold me, on Valvoline!!
IMO, Valvoline, keeps the engine cleaner on the inside, than a lot of other oils!!
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Old 01-30-2014, 05:40 AM   #4
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Do not use M1with a cam swap. Look for an oil that has a good amount of zinc.
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Old 01-30-2014, 06:53 AM   #5
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I've heard too that M1 is a no-go. I've used M1 Gold in my Caddy and conversion van for years. I have yet to change the oil in the Camaro but will too be visiting your subject matter soon.
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Mobil 1 15w50 per my Builder. Due to the Zinc.
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Old 01-30-2014, 07:23 AM   #7
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The main reason Mobil is heard about on this subject is its the most commonly used oil by far. Not saying that there's nothing else to it but just on the mathematical odds of it. I use it now but I'm stock internal. Will I change when I do my cam swap? Probably not but will run a zinc additive if I do stick with Mobil.
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Old 01-30-2014, 08:59 AM   #8
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The zinc additive is too expensive, it was like $13-$17 a bottle and only does 4-6 qts. There is so much conflicting info, I think im just going to go with vr1. I'm doing the night fury cam and they said its fine to use m1 though
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:33 AM   #9
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I've read with the properties of today's oils, a "additive" may not bond / mix with your current oil defeating the process of using or adding zinc (ZDDP) content. Which oil contains the highest levels of ZDDP, I've heard good things on the Mobil 1. There is a good report on this site crushing some of the popular like the Royal Purple finishing last...
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Mobil 1 15w50 has a Hi zinc content.
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:18 AM   #11
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50wt is way to thick for a daily driver imo.
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Old 01-30-2014, 01:42 PM   #12
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I guess it depends on where you live.
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^ Yes it does. Too cold here unfortunately.

According to comp the cam should be broken in with break in oil and treated like a flat tappet cam on the first start. Has anyone on here actually used break in oil with a new cam?
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First I've heard of breaking in a roller cam.
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I'm using 15w50 M1 per Andy at ADM and yes it has high zinc in it.
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We recently switched to Driven/Joe Gibbs LS30 High Zinc Synthetic 5W30 Oil. It's specifically designed for high performance LS series engines, LS30 reduces oil consumption by limiting oil vaporization and foaming. It utilizes advanced mPAO synthetic base oils to reduce valve train noise and to provide high temperature and high shear protection for GM LS based engines with and without variable valve timing. LS30 delivers industry leading shear stability and HTHS bearing oil film thickness. Ideal for LS-based crate engines and supercharged LS performance engines as well as any performance engine that calls for a 5W-30 viscosity. Viscosity typical of 5W-30.



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First I've heard of breaking in a roller cam.
Thats what I thought.
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Old 01-30-2014, 07:07 PM   #18
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We recently switched to Driven/Joe Gibbs LS30 High Zinc Synthetic 5W30 Oil. It's specifically designed for high performance LS series engines, LS30 reduces oil consumption by limiting oil vaporization and foaming. It utilizes advanced mPAO synthetic base oils to reduce valve train noise and to provide high temperature and high shear protection for GM LS based engines with and without variable valve timing. LS30 delivers industry leading shear stability and HTHS bearing oil film thickness. Ideal for LS-based crate engines and supercharged LS performance engines as well as any performance engine that calls for a 5W-30 viscosity. Viscosity typical of 5W-30.



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I was looking at ls30 as well, downside to me is it not being locally available.
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Where do you get this LS30 oil at?
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I get my LS30 from Jegs (free shipping).
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Yep, jegs has about the best pricing on ls30
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Mobil 1 15w50 has a Hi zinc content.
Hi zinc content but poor film strength and cold flow.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...e-5w-50-a.html

OP, I would choose a 5w-30 or 10w-30 with BOTH high ZDDP content AND high film strength.
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We recently switched to Driven/Joe Gibbs LS30 High Zinc Synthetic 5W30 Oil. It's specifically designed for high performance LS series engines, LS30 reduces oil consumption by limiting oil vaporization and foaming. It utilizes advanced mPAO synthetic base oils to reduce valve train noise and to provide high temperature and high shear protection for GM LS based engines with and without variable valve timing. LS30 delivers industry leading shear stability and HTHS bearing oil film thickness. Ideal for LS-based crate engines and supercharged LS performance engines as well as any performance engine that calls for a 5W-30 viscosity. Viscosity typical of 5W-30.



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Do racing oils require more frequent changes than "street" oils? Will this oil go 6,000 miles if the engine is not driven hard frequently?
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Depends on the detergent levels. If you dont have a larger cam it's probably not worth using an oil like this
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It says sold as set of 12. That price is for 12 quarts right?
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