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Old 02-05-2014, 10:20 AM   #51
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While that would be great and make it feel very much like a Camaro5 specific event, that would be 13 V8 classes, 3 V6 classes plus bracket and exhibition classes. That would be a lot to keep track of and make tech difficult for the track personnel.
^^^Thank you for that. Try and explain to a tech guy with 100 cars lined up at his station how our fast lists work. I literally have to stand in the tech line and tell them classes as it is.

Something that would be cool is announcing cars that have moved up a certain fast list. Posting up some big printouts or something and highlighting cars that are in attendance.
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^^^Thank you for that. Try and explain to a tech guy with 100 cars lined up at his station how our fast lists work. I literally have to stand in the tech line and tell them classes as it is.

Something that would be cool is announcing cars that have moved up a certain fast list. Posting up some big printouts or something and highlighting cars that are in attendance.
Not to mention some may want to class and bracket race. I can dial in my boost to to hit 11.0x pretty consistently, but in a fast list class I would want to go all out and get as close to 10.5 as I could. How are they going to tech multiple cars that are doing the same thing?
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holy crap...didn't realize that was 13 v8 classes. my bad...I was thinking the 11 v8 classes listed but we could narrow it tighter combining drag radial and slicks, dropping the 1LE classes and maybe combine all the street tire guys. Yes it would require a moderator there constantly...maybe have him grab a few guys to help tech folks. I would volunteer to help when I'm not running if you want...but you really need guys helping that aren't in line.
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Old 02-05-2014, 10:49 AM   #54
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BRACKET RACING: Any 5th-gen Camaro
Woah woah woah, I guess I missed this part? I thought it was open to all generations.
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Old 02-05-2014, 10:57 AM   #55
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Woah woah woah, I guess I missed this part? I thought it was open to all generations.
Sorry, this was same as the past 3 years. It's really meant to make sure the 13 sec and up cars can get in on some competitive fun. The fest has a lot of brand new race drivers and the intent of brackets is to ensure they participate too.
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Any chance the v6s can all be bunched up?
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Old 02-05-2014, 11:01 AM   #57
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I cant spend the money to race unlimited, 8sec cars vs my 11sec car isn't truly a competition. I was planning on bringing quite a few friends who have older cars for bracket, couldn't there be a change on that to give it just some diversity+car count? Or dare I go out on a limb and say add a gen 1-4 bracket?
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Remember guys, this is not a NHRA event. The purpose is to give Camaro fans a chance to gather and have some fun. If you sole purpose is to come for a trophy then you are going to miss out on a lot.
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I know its for fun, id just like to be able to run brackets instead of heads up with cars that much much faster than mine. Just to name a couple that wanted to come to this event, my little brother has a 91 Camaro maybe a 12sec car, and 2 friends are wanting to go one with a 94 firebird and the other with a 74 Camaro. both maybe low 13sec cars. They wouldn't stand a chance in unlimited.
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Mike,

Put in some class in between Super Modified and Modified. Otherwise the Super Mod class is going to be way oversized and the people with just a supercharger, or a shot of nitrous aren't going to be able to compete. Your pretty much cutting out an entire class of high 10 to 11 second cars. I understand having a lot of classes makes it difficult but I have been to NMCA events at RP, which have a ton of classes, and it runs smoothly so I know it can be done.
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I know its for fun, id just like to be able to run brackets instead of heads up with cars that much much faster than mine.
Yeah, but a lot of us are in that boat. I'm a mid to high 10s car. The high 9 to low 10s cars in the super-mod class are going to destroy me. So, i'll make a few runs and get as close to 10.5 as I can then spend the rest of my time watching others race. It is a lot of fun helping someone who has never raced. The permigrin they get when they shave a couple of tenths of their time is priceless.
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Put in some class in between Super Modified and Modified. Otherwise the Super Mod class is going to be way oversized and the people with just a supercharger, or a shot of nitrous aren't going to be able to compete. Your pretty much cutting out an entire class of high 10 to 11 second cars. I understand having a lot of classes makes it difficult but I have been to NMCA events at RP, which have a ton of classes, and it runs smoothly so I know it can be done.
Way ahead of you David... more coming.
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Remember guys, this is not a NHRA event. The purpose is to give Camaro fans a chance to gather and have some fun. If you sole purpose is to come for a trophy then you are going to miss out on a lot.
Exact reason I think the v6s should all be in one class or a stock/bolt on class and a FI class.
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Exact reason I think the v6s should all be in one class or a stock/bolt on class and a FI class.
V6's are all in one class, just like last year. The guy with headers won a close race.
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Exact reason I think the v6s should all be in one class or a stock/bolt on class and a FI class.
That's the way it is now. The stock/minor bolton V6s have their on heads up class or can bracket race. The guys like me, HDRS and etmx run in the super mod class. I wasn't there last year, but that's similar to the class I ran in two years ago. We all recognize that a nearly stock V6 can't run heads up with a FI/nitrous car anymore so than a nearly stock V8 can run against a FI/nitrous car.
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Old 02-05-2014, 11:29 AM   #66
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Yeah, but a lot of us are in that boat. I'm a mid to high 10s car. The high 9 to low 10s cars in the super-mod class are going to destroy me. So, i'll make a few runs and get as close to 10.5 as I can then spend the rest of my time watching others race. It is a lot of fun helping someone who has never raced. The permigrin they get when they shave a couple of tenths of their time is priceless.
anything up to .5 can be made up on the tree if youre lucky. but 2-3secs? I enjoy helpin others as well, I do that on a weekly basis. but id like to have a fighting chance in competition as well.
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Yup I'm going to kill you... I almost started this thread last night, but so much to consider. Here goes anyway...

BRACKET RACING: Any 5th-gen Camaro

STOCK V6: Any V6 5th-gen Camaro. CAI and/or Catback only, are allowed. No Headers, tune, engine, brake, or suspension modifications. No under 200-treadwear tires or drag radials.

STOCK V8: Any V8 5th-gen Camaro. CAI and/or Catback only, are allowed. No Headers, tune, engine, brake, or suspension modifications. No under 200-treadwear tires or drag radials.

MODIFIED: Any naturally-aspirated street-licensed 5th-gen Camaro (no nitrous)

M6 STREET TIRES: Any manual transmission 5th-gen Camaro on street tires

ZL1 UNLIMITED: Any ZL1 Camaro

SUPER-MODIFIED: Any force-inducted IRS 5th-gen Camaro. Unlimited modifications. Any driver.



UNLIMITED: Gen 1-4, Drag Car or non-IRS 5th Gen, Any driver

C7 Stingray: Unlimited C7 Corvette
I think this looks awesome, for the M6 Street tires do we want to clarify that this is also a no drag radial class?

I also don't mind helping out with tech if you need somebody else.

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Remember guys, this is not a NHRA event. The purpose is to give Camaro fans a chance to gather and have some fun. If you sole purpose is to come for a trophy then you are going to miss out on a lot.
Very true, although bragging rights make it funner you are gonna miss out on what Camaro Fest really is if your only coming for the racing.
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Heck...remember...this is Camaro5 fest...you bring anything other than a 5th gen you can race in the ulimited open class IMO.
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Heck...remember...this is Camaro5 fest...you bring anything other than a 5th gen you can race in the ulimited open class IMO.
I see some of your points, I really don't wanna miss this event, been looking forward to it since ive read about it, sorry if ive bothered anyone by my reaction to my sudden understanding of the rules. I really don't wanna butt-heads with anyone on this site, I kinda like it here lol
What would the schedule be as far as how many runs would I get to make?
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I see some of your points, I really don't wanna miss this event, been looking forward to it since ive read about it, sorry if ive bothered anyone by my reaction to my sudden understanding of the rules. I really don't wanna butt-heads with anyone on this site, I kinda like it here lol
What would the schedule be as far as how many runs would I get to make?
Usually there is quit a bit of time in the mornings for test/tune, qualifying and grudge matches, then the schedule becomes dictated by the number of classes and how many cars there are. It will be interesting this year because it looks like there will be more showing up that in Indy.
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Heck...remember...this is Camaro5 fest...you bring anything other than a 5th gen you can race in the ulimited open class IMO.
I'm a little torn here, but I tend to agree. Although I don't care for bracket racing I understand that its a great way to get new people introduced to the sport. You don't really see purpose built 5th gen bracket cars out there so throwing in a 1981 Camaro, 383ci Drag car purpose built for bracket racing wouldn't be fair to the new comers IMO.

I have a 4th gen auto drag car that is very consistent and would be awesome in the brackets, but that is not the point of Camaro5 Fest.
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Usually there is quit a bit of time in the mornings for test/tune, qualifying and grudge matches, then the schedule becomes dictated by the number of classes and how many cars there are. It will be interesting this year because it looks like there will be more showing up that in Indy.
So, its not out of the realm of possibility to make 7-8 runs in a day?
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So, its not out of the realm of possibility to make 7-8 runs in a day?
At the last 2 fests you could've made 80. That's the honest truth. There's no lines. You drive up and go.
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So, its not out of the realm of possibility to make 7-8 runs in a day?
No, I think at C5F3 I put down close to 20 runs on Friday alone.
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