Do you think that the car needs a separate Clutch Fluid reservoir

[bbardo]

2SSRS, Is this Holden part available in the US from Chevrolet dealers ?
Thanks

Originally Posted by 2SSRS

#1 new reservoir from a GTO a Holden part # 92065790 list $19.33 but can get for $15.00

[2SSRS]

In a word Yes that is how i got it.

[LDGn63]

Originally Posted by bbardo

I would like to see the aftermarket offer this option.
Clutch dust can't be a good thing for the ABS to deal with IMO

+1000

[ZZcamaro]

Anybody think a slightly larger resevoir will help with cooling. Finding a way to keep the brake fluid more cool will be next!

The reason I have seen to do this is to try and keep some heat out of the system...

[2SSRS]

Originally Posted by ZZcamaro

Anybody think a slightly larger resevoir will help with cooling. Finding a way to keep the brake fluid more cool will be next!

The reason I have seen to do this is to try and keep some heat out of the system...

Good point, I know that the color if the brake fluid is not getting dark like when it was combined.

[Doc]

Originally Posted by ZZcamaro

Anybody think a slightly larger resevoir will help with cooling. Finding a way to keep the brake fluid more cool will be next!

The reason I have seen to do this is to try and keep some heat out of the system...

I'll be changing to steel-braided brake lines; those help a little in dissipating heat plus give a more solid feel to the brakes. If you're doing that much braking (i.e. HPDE or autocrossing) you might want to look into brake ducts for cooling and/or 2-piece brake rotors. I'm trying to find rotors but so far nobody is saying they have one yet for this car. Everything is "in development" lol.

[SoloSK71]

Another note added to my build list. Thanks for the info guys.

- SK

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by Doc

I'll be changing to steel-braided brake lines; those help a little in dissipating heat plus give a more solid feel to the brakes. If you're doing that much braking (i.e. HPDE or autocrossing) you might want to look into brake ducts for cooling and/or 2-piece brake rotors. I'm trying to find rotors but so far nobody is saying they have one yet for this car. Everything is "in development" lol.

Brembo already has a Big Brake Kit for the camaro.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32767

[Embalmer]

So my car has around 7000 miles on it. I just checked the resevoir today and the fluid is a "Killians Red" color. It was a clear golden color not to long ago.

My cap also leaks.

I'm going to take it into the dealership and have them take a look... I may try this separate reservoir fix though.

[Doc]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

Brembo already has a Big Brake Kit for the camaro.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32767

Yeah they do make a big brake kit and it's got big break-you prices. Racing Brake now has a 2-piece front rotor for the SS that they're selling to Camaro5 members for 25% off. We have a group buy in progress:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40428

Just need 5 more people to get the deal. We'll get the rotors for $322 each and they are 4.5 lbs lighter than the stock rotors and do a MUCH better job of dissipating the heat.

[SoloSK71]

Nice find Doc, signed up for it for a friend of mine who bought an SS also.

- SK

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by Doc

Yeah they do make a big brake kit and it's got big break-you prices. Racing Brake now has a 2-piece front rotor for the SS that they're selling to Camaro5 members for 25% off. We have a group buy in progress:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40428

Just need 5 more people to get the deal. We'll get the rotors for $322 each and they are 4.5 lbs lighter than the stock rotors and do a MUCH better job of dissipating the heat.

sweet doc. thanks

[2SSRS]

Originally Posted by Embalmer

So my car has around 7000 miles on it. I just checked the resevoir today and the fluid is a "Killians Red" color. It was a clear golden color not to long ago.

My cap also leaks.

I'm going to take it into the dealership and have them take a look... I may try this separate reservoir fix though.

Doing this will not fix the "Killians Red" color of you Fluid, But it dos stop the leaks on your cap, And that Fluid is not in you brakes, I still change my fluid in the new Reservoir all the time but not in the brakes.

[coolman]

Originally Posted by Vash

Looks normal. With the dark background hard to tell.

The fluid system is sealed dust from the clutch won't get into the juice unless there is a defect. And if your temps are nominal for eng and tranny you should be fine.

Not true this issue has been a proven problem on vettes for a long time. Look it up. My dad has no problems on his vette as long as he fushes the brake flluid after he runs the car hard. I would greatly help to do a redesign. I don't know if that means seperating the two or not.

[jamesc1123]

What about changing to a Corvette ZO6 master and slave cylinder? Anyone tried that yet? I know it'll be a lot more expensive, but looking at some aftermarket clutches, some of them tell you to get a corvette slave cylinder anyways, so prepare for the future...
Also, does anyone know if there's a difference between the ZO6 and standard corvette master and slave cylinders?

[2SSRS]

Originally Posted by jamesc1123

What about changing to a Corvette ZO6 master and slave cylinder? Anyone tried that yet? I know it'll be a lot more expensive, but looking at some aftermarket clutches, some of them tell you to get a corvette slave cylinder anyways, so prepare for the future...
Also, does anyone know if there's a difference between the ZO6 and standard corvette master and slave cylinders?

You can do a Corvette master and slave cylinder but it is a lot of $ like 260 or more and that part is $19 so you can do what you want.

[mstrfdsstr]

is there another part pontiac cant find one everyone doing this
?

[rodimus prime]

I had huge problems with this on my t56 in my 98ss...especially after going to long tubes. It was commonly thought that the heat from the exhaust was boiling the clutch fluid and caused the slave to not get any fluid. I wrapped my headers, insulted the fluid line, did the master drill mod (not an issue on new masters) then even changed the master and slave cylinder. I had this issue with a 100% new clutch. There is no way it was brake dust alone causing this problem. I dont have a manual trans, but you might want to take a look at the routing of the clutch fluid line. Id bet its still near the stock exhaust.

I never had problems until I went to long tube headers though. After changing fluid upon fluid, modding parts and replacing everything. I gave up and went with a th350 anyways. Part of the reason I stayed away from stick this time. Its a huge problem throughout the lsx community.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/manual...-write-up.html

New dog with the same problems.

[2SSRS]

Originally Posted by rodimus prime

I had huge problems with this on my t56 in my 98ss...especially after going to long tubes. It was commonly thought that the heat from the exhaust was boiling the clutch fluid and caused the slave to not get any fluid. I wrapped my headers, insulted the fluid line, did the master drill mod (not an issue on new masters) then even changed the master and slave cylinder. I had this issue with a 100% new clutch. There is no way it was brake dust alone causing this problem. I dont have a manual trans, but you might want to take a look at the routing of the clutch fluid line. Id bet its still near the stock exhaust.

I never had problems until I went to long tube headers though. After changing fluid upon fluid, modding parts and replacing everything. I gave up and went with a th350 anyways. Part of the reason I stayed away from stick this time. Its a huge problem throughout the lsx community.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/manual...-write-up.html

New dog with the same problems.

If you look at your brake master you can see where the hose for the clutch master and it is not near the stock exhaust.

[2SSRS]

Originally Posted by mstrfdsstr

is there another part pontiac cant find one everyone doing this
?

You can go to any GM dealer and get it, Hear is a pic that is from http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/
And it shows that unit is good.

[daphatgrant]

I know that this is an old thread but it is worth bumping with a question in my opinion .

What size rubber plug did you buy for the brake master cylinder reservoir? Thanks and thanks for the write up, I've been telling quite a few people about this .

[flht99b]

Looking to do this mod also. I didn't like the rubber plug sealing off the brake master cylinder reservoir so I looked at an a6 transmission equipped SS Camaro to see if it's brake master cylinder reservoir could be used. It appears the brake master cylinder reservoir is the same for the m6 and a6 transmission cars, the factory just breaks off a plug to attach the clutch slave line on the m6 models. Now I have to find the P/N for the master cylinder reservoir. Ed M.

[daphatgrant]

Originally Posted by flht99b

Looking to do this mod also. I didn't like the rubber plug sealing off the brake master cylinder reservoir so I looked at an a6 transmission equipped SS Camaro to see if it's brake master cylinder reservoir could be used. It appears the brake master cylinder reservoir is the same for the m6 and a6 transmission cars, the factory just breaks off a plug to attach the clutch slave line on the m6 models. Now I have to find the P/N for the master cylinder reservoir. Ed M.

Huh... this is another great idea, looking at GMPartsDirect.com I think I found the correct reservoir part # 92234622.

I also got an answer back from 2SSRS, it's a 3/8" plug.

[drtwo]

So if I suck out the brake fluid (which apparently is DOT3 stock on the LS3) and replace only what is in the reservoir with DOT4, will that mixing DOT3 and 4 be a problem?

[2SSRS]

No, you can mix dot 3 and 4, But not dot5.