Do you think that the car needs a separate Clutch Fluid reservoir

[CAMAR0]

Here is the diagram of the GTO hydraulic clutch system that we are borrowing the reservoir from, see No 1 for P/N 92065790. (Note this reservoir does not have any holes in the bottom to attach to a master cylinder)

[caverman]

Originally Posted by Kilo-9

I would remove the fluid from the reservoir before you disconnect the hose. I'm planning on using a large syringe or turkey baster. After everything is connected, refill with fresh fluid. Most DOT 3 and DOT 4 fluids can be mixed...just check the label on the bottle first, just to be sure.

But then you'll have to bleed the brakes....right?

Pulling the oil out that low would probalby cause air bubbles to get in the lines.

I would think it would be easier to have a couple plugs ready to go, put a bucket or towel underneath it and try to make the switch real quick.

[CAMAR0]

My plan is to fill the engine compartment with towels. (brake fluid eats paint like the cookie monster on some nestle tollhouse specials) Clamp the clutch line lightly. Pull it and plug the master. Slide on the hose clamp over the plug and tighten. Hold up the clutch line and release clamp and attach to reservoir. Fill clutch reservoir. Screw to pretapped holes on strut tower back side. About to attempt in 30mins. Will let you know how it goes along with pics of the plug pkg from autozone.

[CAMAR0]

No dice, going to have to make a bracket to get the reservoir to mount how i want. Will post pics if i get it done today.

[caverman]

Originally Posted by CAMAR0

My plan is to fill the engine compartment with towels. (brake fluid eats paint like the cookie monster on some nestle tollhouse specials) Clamp the clutch line lightly. Pull it and plug the master. Slide on the hose clamp over the plug and tighten. Hold up the clutch line and release clamp and attach to reservoir. Fill clutch reservoir. Screw to pretapped holes on strut tower back side. About to attempt in 30mins. Will let you know how it goes along with pics of the plug pkg from autozone.

Sounds like my plan.....other than I might use a small bucket and towels.

Keep us posted on how it goes and get some pics.

[CAMAR0]

Ill try to finish up tomorrow. Only had 35 min to mess with it today. Next up, Bristol!!

[Kilo-9]

Well, I didn't get around to doing my swap, either. I installed my Heritage grill instead. Here's a pic of the new reservoirs, in case anyone hasn't seen what it looks like without the clutch line tab removed. I can't exactly say it's pretty, but I'll feel more secure this way vs. using a plug:

[CAMAR0]

http://www.dormanproducts.com/p-2166-41050.aspx
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...mString=search

Im just using the 3/8" cap from this kit with a hose clamp over it. Should be as secure as the original hose connection. $3.75+tax.

[Moriartii]

Depending on what those are made of you may want to switch out to EPDM caps.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#epdm-rubber-caps/=8j87t1
Cheers
K

[3min3m2]

gmparts direct said the reservoir is on national backorder....

[CAMAR0]

The ones I bought are Neoprene caps.

[caverman]

Originally Posted by 3min3m2

gmparts direct said the reservoir is on national backorder....

Yes....but I found a couple in FL. I got charged but haven't seen it yet. Hope it comes in by tomorrow.

Originally Posted by CAMAR0

The ones I bought are Neoprene caps.

How did you install go? Where you able to finally get it finished?

[CAMAR0]

Mounting to the strut tower looked like duke so im working on a bracket that mounts under the plastic cowl piece and turns 90 to face the other reservoir. Ill just have to turn the hose 180 where it comes off the master cylinder then. Ill post pics of the bracket once im done cutting and welding.

On a side note, theres a used c5 reservoir on ebay that looks like the same design as the gto for $60 shipped.

[caverman]

Originally Posted by CAMAR0

Mounting to the strut tower looked like duke so im working on a bracket that mounts under the plastic cowl piece and turns 90 to face the other reservoir. Ill just have to turn the hose 180 where it comes off the master cylinder then. Ill post pics of the bracket once im done cutting and welding.

On a side note, theres a used c5 reservoir on ebay that looks like the same design as the gto for $60 shipped.

If the bracket turns out well...keep a template. You never know, you might be able to make and sell some.

[caverman]

Got my reservoir in today. I'll try to get it installed in the next week or so. Need to make a run to the auto store to pick up the remaining stuff.


CAMARO.....waiting to see what you do with yours as well.

[2SSRS]

So i but my parts guy on this and there are only 2 GTO reservoir in the US right now and they are at your FL dealer, On the good side i ordered 10 Pc and hope to have them in 60 Days.

[CAMAR0]

I'll take pics installed and out. The problem with the strut tower is that i don't have a tight 90 degree drill to drill the holes where you'd have to in order to get it to mount properly and even then it looked out of place when I held it there. I want it to appear stock. I had a M6 gto and I know how they mounted and it was up above just below where the hood seals to the plastic cowl piece. I am hoping to do something like that and get a new hose or make my bracket turn 90 and reuse the hose.

I have the metal partly done but haven't had time to finish it up. My mom is selling her business and I'm renting out my other home this week so spare time has been non existent. Thursday or Friday I should be able to get this wrapped up though.

[sting808]

When I checked on Friday at my local dealer,

(1) Bunnin Buick, CA (SOLD)
(1) Shamley Pon-Buick-GMC, TX
(1) Day-Centennial Chevy, PA
(2) Homestead Chevy, FL

CA piece is sold and being delivered. Guess the others are being scooped up. Need to find someplace that has reasonably priced fog lamp housings and wiring harness in stock.

[caverman]

Originally Posted by sting808

When I checked on Friday at my local dealer,

(1) Bunnin Buick, CA (SOLD)
(1) Shamley Pon-Buick-GMC, TX
(1) Day-Centennial Chevy, PA
(2) Homestead Chevy, FL

CA piece is sold and being delivered. Guess the others are being scooped up. Need to find someplace that has reasonably priced fog lamp housings and wiring harness in stock.

I called on the one in TX and it's a special order for a customer. It's in their inventory but they can't sell it because it's already sold.

FL was the only place that could be found right now.

[Kilo-9]

I've got the one from Day-Centennial. It was special ordered...it should be out of their inventory by now.

[MS3DALE]

Originally Posted by sting808

When I checked on Friday at my local dealer,

(1) Bunnin Buick, CA (SOLD)
(1) Shamley Pon-Buick-GMC, TX
(1) Day-Centennial Chevy, PA
(2) Homestead Chevy, FL

CA piece is sold and being delivered. Guess the others are being scooped up. Need to find someplace that has reasonably priced fog lamp housings and wiring harness in stock.

Well....I can positively tell you that Day-Centennial does not have one anymore,I'm the parts manager there and its sold!

[MS3DALE]

Originally Posted by Kilo-9

I've got the one from Day-Centennial. It was special ordered...it should be out of their inventory by now.

Yes,Yes you do have that one

[MS3DALE]

Originally Posted by Kilo-9

I installed my Heritage grill instead.

Ahh....Whats this "I"

[caverman]

Did my resivoir a couple days ago. Of course it wasn't as easy as I thought. The theory is easy but getting your hands in that small of an area to pre-drill the wholes isn't.

There isn't a real good level area as well so my resivoir is tilted upwards some. Still looks okay.

It doesn't take very much fluid at all to fill it up. Like 1 - 1.5 oz.

BTW: Even after getting the shaft for the acutal resivoir I have about $40 and about 2hrs in the whole thing.

[Texhawk]

Originally Posted by CatiaJockey

Clutch dust cannot get in the fluid no more than brake dust can. Its a sealed system and the discoloration you see is completely normal. I have no issue with the combined system, works good lasts a long time.

This is not correct.
If you read the Corvette forum, you will see that if you do much high RPM shifting, the clutch fluid becomes dark quickly.
Some forum members have analyzed the fluid and found the contamination to be clutch dust and not natural deterioration from moisture, seals, etc.
What happens is that when you get a lot of clutch dust in the clutch housing, some of it works its way past the slave cylinder seal and into the fluid.
This is also confirmed by the fact that if you drive and shift normally, the fluid stays clean much longer. It only takes a few drag racing runs to turn the fluid dark again, and you can actually see bursts of clutch dust out the bottom of the car during shifts.


http://www.rangeracceleration.com/Clutch_Care.html