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Old 07-25-2009, 06:14 AM   #1
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Wax / Polish advice...???

OK, so what is the best product - best look out there as far as waxing or polishing the car........been out of the game for too long and not sure what products works best.....Help????
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Old 07-25-2009, 06:39 AM   #2
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You're going to get a lot of people pushing Zaino. It's the trendy thing right now.

I use Meguiars NXT Easy and shines great. Long lasting too. Mothers is good too.

Here's link to Meguiars that will tell you which of their product to use on your car.

http://www.meguiars.com/rx/rx_main.cfm
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Old 07-25-2009, 02:36 PM   #3
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I highly recommend you to use Clay bar first, and then apply wax.
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Old 07-25-2009, 03:23 PM   #4
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I highly recommend you to use Clay bar first, and then apply wax.
yes works very good
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just ordered my Zaino..

check out this thread for some answers to questions you may have http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31056
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Old 07-25-2009, 03:49 PM   #6
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How many clay bars would one need to do the entire car?
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Old 07-25-2009, 03:57 PM   #8
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How many clay bars would one need to do the entire car?
this was posted a while back:

How to: Properly Clay your Car


Make sure you have thoroughly washed and dried your car prior to claying.

Cut the clay bar in half. Take the half and cut it into 15 equal pieces:

2 for the hood
2 for the roof
1 for the trunk lid
1 for the trunk rear and rear bumper
2 for the rear quarter panels (1 per side)
4 for the doors (1 per door)(if you have a sedan)
2 for the front fenders (1 per side)
1 for the front of the car

Take the piece and roll it in to a sphere. Take the sphere and flatten it out into a circle so that it covers the top third of your first two fingers. Spray the first section of the roof with quick detailer. Glide the clay across the area in a front to back motion applying some pressure. Work in 2x2 areas. If you feel your fingers going through the clay, then you are pushing too hard. If the clay is streaking on the paint, then you need more QD. While gliding, you should hear a slight noise and feel some resistance. This is the grit being lifted from the paint. When the resistance and noise stops, dry the QD off with a quality towel. Move onto the next 2x2 section and do the same thing. Once half the section is done, flip the clay over and do the other half of the section. Once the section has been completed throw the piece of clay away. It is too contaminated to use on another section. If you do use it, you will most likely put micro scratches in your clear.

Keep working your way down using each dedicated piece for its area. Flip the clay over when you have completed half a section. Throw the clay away when the section is done.

When complete your car should be as smooth as glass. The next steps should be to remove the swirls (if necessary), remove any hazing from polishing/bring out the full gloss, and seal in the rejuvenated finish with a wax or sealant.

A gigantic thanks goes out to Brad B. who outlined this method to a bunch of us a few years ago. I have been using it ever since.
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Old 07-25-2009, 06:45 PM   #9
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Hello, my personal experience is that for the money, ease of use and durability you cannot beat Zaino.

As well the depth of shine and gloss is amazing!

Just try it you won't be disappointed.

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Old 07-25-2009, 10:59 PM   #10
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Yeah, Zaino here as well...I've used a lot of stuff over the years and Zaino is by far the best imho.
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Old 07-26-2009, 07:09 AM   #11
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You're going to get a lot of people pushing Zaino. It's the trendy thing right now.

I use Meguiars NXT Easy and shines great. Long lasting too. Mothers is good too.

Here's link to Meguiars that will tell you which of their product to use on your car.

http://www.meguiars.com/rx/rx_main.cfm

Zaino isn't a trendy thing. I decided to try it a couple years back because a recomendation from a pro detailer. I tried it and I can tell you that nothing that you can buy off the shelf comes within a country mile of that stuff.

I just recently tried their leather cleaner and conditioner. WOW. My Wife told me to order more of it after she used it in her Tahoe.

What I love about Zaino is that is works as they advertise and it works like it should. That's all I ever ask for in a purchase anyway.

+1 to the claybar first suggestion.

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I highly recommend the Riv-Star line of products. It is a company here in Pittsburgh, and I swear by the stuff.

There are multiple products from cleaner wax, to polish, to quick detailer, clay bar, etc... You get the idea.

It is extremely easy to use, and also satisfaction gauranteed!! Or your money back.

I swear by it, and I became a dealer of it exclusively because I liked it so much!
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Old 07-26-2009, 08:47 AM   #13
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Zaino isn't a trendy thing. I decided to try it a couple years back because a recomendation from a pro detailer. I tried it and I can tell you that nothing that you can buy off the shelf comes within a country mile of that stuff.

I just recently tried their leather cleaner and conditioner. WOW. My Wife told me to order more of it after she used it in her Tahoe.

What I love about Zaino is that is works as they advertise and it works like it should. That's all I ever ask for in a purchase anyway.

+1 to the claybar first suggestion.

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Totally agree. I have tried just about every type of wax/polish over the last ten years and Zaino by far out performs them all. Period...
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Old 07-26-2009, 10:39 AM   #14
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Meguiars

Meguiars for me. Easy to apply, easy to touch up.
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Old 07-26-2009, 11:35 AM   #15
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Zaino isn't a trendy thing. I decided to try it a couple years back because a recomendation from a pro detailer. I tried it and I can tell you that nothing that you can buy off the shelf comes within a country mile of that stuff.

I just recently tried their leather cleaner and conditioner. WOW. My Wife told me to order more of it after she used it in her Tahoe.

What I love about Zaino is that is works as they advertise and it works like it should. That's all I ever ask for in a purchase anyway.

+1 to the claybar first suggestion.

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i love when something performs as it's advertised.And that's not too much to ask for.Zaino does exactly that.
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Old 07-26-2009, 06:53 PM   #16
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If you want an "over the counter" product, Meguires or Mothers.

IMO, the best, NON TRENDY (its been around for ages) product; Zaino.
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Take it to a pro detailer and tell them not to use any machines and only by hand.
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Old 07-27-2009, 10:31 AM   #18
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I use Meguiars NXT 2.0 sealant as a base every 6 weeks.

In between applying Meguiars and after washes, I use Mother's FX Spray wax as a supplement/wax booster.

I have found this combo to work AMAZING! On all my cars, the shine is phenomenal and the water beads up after a rain for weeks on end. I notice the results best on my daily driver, which looks good day after day and I only wash that old thing every other week.
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Old 07-27-2009, 11:31 PM   #19
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Tony, I feel for you. Half the responses are calling Zaino "trendy" and the other half are raving about it. I promise that everyone is truthfully telling you their perceptions and have your best interest at heart.

I'm going to do the same and cast my vote for Meguiair's products. For years I have used the same routine - wash, dry, polish, wax. When necessary I used their swirl remover product. I've always kept my vehicles regularly washed/polished/waxed so I never needed to use a clay bar.

Year ago I scoured the internet for the advice on the "perfect" product and kept coming across posts about Zaino. I finally tried it for myself and was disappointed. It was expensive compared to Meguiair's, took longer to complete and the result was NOT any better.

Maybe it was just my long time familiarity with Meguiars that made a start-to-finish perfect detail faster, cheaper and easier for me. But they still have my business years later.

No matter what you choose, I'll offer this - both companies brag about longevity, but you will not see that unless you use a car wash soap that is gentle enough that it DOES NOT instantly strip off your wax coat. As soon as you use a commercial car wash, your wax turns to toast.

I also recommend using a duster every day or two and a detail spray as needed. In dry Oklahoma summers I can usually go 2 to 4 months without using water and my car always looks showroom perfect.
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I heard great reviews about Tech Shine from the evo forums (and others too). I purchased a bottle of this stuff. It's been raining a lot almost everyday here in the Northeast and I haven't had a chance to try it yet. On a good sunny day, I'll try it.
http://www.tech-shine.com/index.php

This picture is from another Evo owner. I have the same color car so the results should almost be the same.
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Tony, I feel for you. Half the responses are calling Zaino "trendy" and the other half are raving about it. I promise that everyone is truthfully telling you their perceptions and have your best interest at heart.

I'm going to do the same and cast my vote for Meguiair's products. For years I have used the same routine - wash, dry, polish, wax. When necessary I used their swirl remover product. I've always kept my vehicles regularly washed/polished/waxed so I never needed to use a clay bar.

Year ago I scoured the internet for the advice on the "perfect" product and kept coming across posts about Zaino. I finally tried it for myself and was disappointed. It was expensive compared to Meguiair's, took longer to complete and the result was NOT any better.

Maybe it was just my long time familiarity with Meguiars that made a start-to-finish perfect detail faster, cheaper and easier for me. But they still have my business years later.

No matter what you choose, I'll offer this - both companies brag about longevity, but you will not see that unless you use a car wash soap that is gentle enough that it DOES NOT instantly strip off your wax coat. As soon as you use a commercial car wash, your wax turns to toast.

I also recommend using a duster every day or two and a detail spray as needed. In dry Oklahoma summers I can usually go 2 to 4 months without using water and my car always looks showroom perfect.
Very good post.

There's ALOT of thoughts/opinions available. You're doing the correct first step in asking for advice. The next step is deciding what works best FOR YOU.

Meguire's, Mother's, Zaino, etc., are all very good products. You can't go wrong with any of these.

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Thanks everyone for the great advice and opinions......I really appreciate the help.....

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Moose,
Quick question: I saw on another thread that someone stated that Zaino helped the vinyl stripes look a bit more glossy.....and that Zaino did not harm the stripes.

What opinion do you have about this and does Meguiars work good on the stripes as well? I have used Meguiars a long time ago but it seems the products are even better now.

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Quick question: I saw on another thread that someone stated that Zaino helped the vinyl stripes look a bit more glossy.....and that Zaino did not harm the stripes.

What opinion do you have about this and does Meguiars work good on the stripes as well? I have used Meguiars a long time ago but it seems the products are even better now.

Thank for the help...
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Tony,

I've used Zaino on the stripes that were on my brothers 10th Anniversary Firehawk, which had a "gloss" finish. Zaino not only added protection from water spots, bird %^$#, etc., but it gave them a nice shine as well.

That being said, I've seen the black stripes on the 5th Gen., which appear to have a "matt" finish. I personally, would not use any wax/polish on these. I'd prefer to keep them clean by either washing them at the time I wash the entire vehicle, or for a "quick detailing", sparying them down with a water/car wash solution. I fear using any wax/polish on "matt" finish stripes will lead to "streaking", re; an "unflattering" appearance.

Meguires is a very good product, and if you've used it for some time and are happy with it, continue to use it.


Hope that answered your questions? If not, please let me know.

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