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Old 07-07-2009, 09:27 AM   #1
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Allocation policy change?

I read that GM was changing the position on allocations. Anybody know about this?
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:29 AM   #2
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i think somebody mentioned that it will be FIFO. most pre-orders are almost completed
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:30 AM   #3
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:30 AM   #4
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I read that GM was changing the position on allocations. Anybody know about this?
yes, i heard (don;t take it as gospel) that they are going to try to make it harder for dealers to mark up. More camaros sold = more camaro allocations. less camaros sold (b/c of insane mark up) = less camaro allocations. I believe the current system is based on number of cars sold total (not just Camaros). If you sell 1000 cars a month but no camaros, you will likely get few allocations under the new system... before you would have got a lot b/c you were a big volume dealer.

edit... like the other said FIFO theory

just what I head, could be
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does the # of Corvettes a dealer sells affect the process? I've heard it does but no one has been able to confirm this.
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:32 AM   #6
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:35 AM   #7
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does the # of Corvettes a dealer sells affect the process? I've heard it does but no one has been able to confirm this.
yes, the current system. Corvette, Cobalts, Aveo... everything. Total sales. sell more cars = get more cars BUT... the new way is specific to Camaros. FIFO on camaros, who cares how may Aveos and Cobalts you sell.

The old way opened it up for the big dealers to have crazy mark up b/c they could actually get the cars. The smaller guys couldn't so you either paid the mark up at the big guys or you didn't get the car and it would sit until someone does pay morkup (which they always do). now this will hurt them. better to move more cars. smaller dealers have more of a chance to move cars.
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So does this mean longer wait or a shorter wait?
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depends on your dealer...
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So does this mean longer wait or a shorter wait?
it depends on your dealer... you need to go to your dealer and ask the RIGHT questions:

How many cars are at 1100 ahead of me? I had 3 when i placed on 5/23

What is your weekly allocation schedule? My dealers schedule for june (june 15-july 15) was 2-1-0-0-1 for the 5 tuesdays in that date range. I was the "1" before the two weeks of "0" for shut down.

If you ask those two questions you should get more information. If there are 10 orders at 1100 infront of you, expect the wait to be long!
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:55 AM   #11
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i heard that if ur dealer is one of the dealerships that is going off the GM account that you may not get your car from them if ur car order havent already been picked up by GM. A dealer thats going out of business cant order any cars from GM this is what I was told by my order manager that I ordered from there one on the closing list
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:57 AM   #12
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i heard that if ur dealer is one of the dealerships that is going off the GM account that you may not get your car from them if ur car order havent already been picked up by GM. A dealer thats going out of business cant order any cars from GM this is what I was told by my order manager that I ordered from there one on the closing list
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I've heard that the rain in spain falls mainly on the plain. lol
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Can anyone back this up with an article, or perhaps Camaro Scotty, Fbodfather, or anyone in the know?
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:56 AM   #15
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It's called "turn and earn". the more you sell, the more you get. If you sit and wait for mark ups, you sit and wait for more cars....although expect dealers to punch them sold so they can sell you a "used" car.
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It's called "turn and earn". the more you sell, the more you get. If you sit and wait for mark ups, you sit and wait for more cars....although expect dealers to punch them sold so they can sell you a "used" car.
always a loop hole... thats BS plus it hurts the buyer on the warranty. These dealers need to be red carded!
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Old 07-07-2009, 12:40 PM   #17
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It's called "turn and earn". the more you sell, the more you get. If you sit and wait for mark ups, you sit and wait for more cars....although expect dealers to punch them sold so they can sell you a "used" car.
Okay, so next question is when does/did it switch to this format?
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Old 07-07-2009, 01:55 PM   #18
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It's called "turn and earn". the more you sell, the more you get. If you sit and wait for mark ups, you sit and wait for more cars....although expect dealers to punch them sold so they can sell you a "used" car.
Can't the consumer pick up the fact it's USED in the paperwork?
What should the consumer look for?

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Old 07-07-2009, 02:02 PM   #19
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It is changing to turn and earn as of this months allocations. As a dealer sells a camaro, they get an allocation. Their sold workbench orders count as part of new allocations as well.

The theory is that dealers will start sell on volume vs price. Although the theory will probably work out great when there is a glut of inventory, it wont really work out right this moment, since the Cam is sorta hard to find in some regions.
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Old 07-07-2009, 08:12 PM   #20
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it depends on your dealer... you need to go to your dealer and ask the RIGHT questions:

How many cars are at 1100 ahead of me? I had 3 when i placed on 5/23

What is your weekly allocation schedule? My dealers schedule for june (june 15-july 15) was 2-1-0-0-1 for the 5 tuesdays in that date range. I was the "1" before the two weeks of "0" for shut down.

If you ask those two questions you should get more information. If there are 10 orders at 1100 infront of you, expect the wait to be long!
That just made me depressed.. Last week I was at 12 on the 1100 list at my dealer.. wow I could just
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It's called "turn and earn". the more you sell, the more you get. If you sit and wait for mark ups, you sit and wait for more cars....although expect dealers to punch them sold so they can sell you a "used" car.
Are you serious dam that is a crock.... I wonder if I should have not put down my deposit and did more shopping around then the three locals I went to.. I just want my ABM
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:04 PM   #22
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Yep, a dealer I was at today told me of this change. It's a good thing for us buyers as dealers will definitely get more aggressive on pricing!
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That just made me depressed.. Last week I was at 12 on the 1100 list at my dealer.. wow I could just
that stinks, you may be able to get back your deposit and go somewhere else. If you find a dealer with an open allocation you could have the car very quick.
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Yep, a dealer I was at today told me of this change. It's a good thing for us buyers as dealers will definitely get more aggressive on pricing!
I agree. I don't really care b/c I am getting GMS but I am glad to see this will curb the mark ups. I am betting a few more months and the mark ups will be a thing of te past. Once Oshawa gets back online and they start cranking them out again, the back log should be eliminated pretty quick. After that it will be much easier and quicker to get one.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:55 PM   #25
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If this is true then, YAY!
so a sold order on work bench will count towards getting more cars in faster? Dealer says his waiting list to order is 70+, Im at 31. So it would be advantageous for the dealer to put the waiting list into workbench as sold orders? They're the only dealer here that is selling at or below MSRP. The other two are marking theirs up $10k-$15k

GM please do a major run of cars for us to fill the matson ship with Camaros!
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