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Old 02-13-2014, 07:50 PM   #1
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So I was installing my heritage grille and noticed rub marks on the collar on the front springs. Front tire rub. Not constant. But when they are at compression. Please check your cars and see if it is on yours as well


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Old 02-13-2014, 08:29 PM   #2
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Very interesting,will be in there tomorrow,thanks for the info.
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Old 02-13-2014, 08:48 PM   #3
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What kind of camber are you running?
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Old 02-13-2014, 09:14 PM   #4
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Old 02-13-2014, 09:50 PM   #5
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When the spring compresses only the section from where your finger is upward changes. From the spring down to the hub assy it is solid and the distance between the tire and that area (lower spring perch) should not change unless something is very wrong. (bad wheel bearing, loose ball joints, loose bolts between knuckle assy and lower strut, loose wheel...etc) Basically there is no way that should make contact unless something is broken.

That looks like wear from debris being thrown up from the tire to the lower perch effectively "sand blasting" that area.....Do you drive on dirt or gravel roads with the car?
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:34 AM   #6
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:46 AM   #7
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Disk brake first gens are notorious for tire rub on the sub-frame at full steering lock. Usually anywhere you have tire rub you'll see bare, shiny metal with all paint/rust rubbed off. You're OK!

EDIT: Looks like third gen 'vettes do it also.
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:16 AM   #8
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I think that might be from the rocks that stick to the tires then come off as you speed up. It doesn't look like a rub to me. Plus I would think you would hear that or feel it in the steering if it was rubbing.
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:31 AM   #9
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Yeah, I don't see anything rubbing. I see some paint missing from debris being thrown off of the tires. No worries.
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Old 02-14-2014, 07:13 PM   #10
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I see chipped up metal that began to corrode.
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Old 02-14-2014, 07:28 PM   #11
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Luse4: It's probably different between normal SS and 1LEs due to the wider tire width and different suspension setup
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Old 02-14-2014, 07:39 PM   #12
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I think that might be from the rocks that stick to the tires then come off as you speed up. It doesn't look like a rub to me. Plus I would think you would hear that or feel it in the steering if it was rubbing.
Ditto of my thoughts.
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:49 PM   #13
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Luse4: It's probably different between normal SS and 1LEs due to the wider tire width and different suspension setup
I am not sure what you are trying to tell me, but there is no rubbing there.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:16 PM   #14
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You got to be kidding me!..Thought I had left that problem when I traded my'06 GTO in on the Camaro..... as with driveshaft problems as well. Hope this isn't the case. It was the collapsing of the upper strut mount/bearings that was causing this if I remember correctly.

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Old 02-15-2014, 07:15 AM   #15
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the last gen of the GTO's did the same thing. It was basically the same chassis. Definetly something to check.
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You got to be kidding me!..Thought I had left that problem when I traded my'06 GTO in on the Camaro..... as with driveshaft problems as well. Hope this isn't the case. It was the collapsing of the upper strut mount/bearings that was causing this if I remember correctly.

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the last gen of the GTO's did the same thing. It was basically the same chassis. Definitely something to check.
There is not a rub issue as mentioned about a dozen times above....

Rubbing will be a constant mark that is smooth...What he is pointing at is coating missing from debris that the wider and sticker tires pick up and throw at the bottom of the strut....hence the chip and now rust there.

The GTO rub issue was a true rub and was corrected:

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/02/15/g...tire-shredder/
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Old 02-20-2014, 07:55 PM   #17
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Thanks Dropspeed for clarifying. I do clearly remember the issue with the Goats as it was something that I always checked every time I rotated me tires. I literally had...and I do repeat..less than an inch clearance between my front tires and the bottom of the strut spring boss. I had the 18 inch rims and never had a issue with the tire rub, but with such a tight tolerance, I kept an eye on it. It was just initial reaction to a problem that I hopefully was getting away from.

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Old 02-20-2014, 08:40 PM   #18
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Well, as long as we're talking about rub marks, I noticed some marks just above the exhaust hangers on the rear mufflers. I think you can shake up the exhaust pretty good on a hard launch, and the result is that the rubber pieces that connect the hangers make contact with the subframe. Maybe it's just my car, I really don't know. Just wanted to spread the word. I have the NPP option btw.
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