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Old 02-16-2014, 12:09 AM   #1
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2013 1LE Pfadt coilovers???

So I'm currently with 509 RWHP with the Turbonetics kit 76 at 5.8 psi. I'm gonna do a Comp cam . Pushrods , dual valve springs. Increase boost and custom tune.
Plan is to end up at 600rhwp
So I know I need to also upgrade my suspension to avoid wheel hop?

I been looking at the Pfadt cool overs but they are $2,790. Any info? Meaning has anyone with a 1LE done it? Are they worth the money!?
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Old 02-16-2014, 12:36 AM   #2
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IMO. Wheel hop is from all the factory rubber bushings in cradle, differential and weak tie rods and control arms. I'd start there 1st. Shocks will help with cornering, braking and weight transfer from side to side/front to back and absorbing change in the road surface.
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IMO. Wheel hop is from all the factory rubber bushings in cradle, differential and weak tie rods and control arms. I'd start there 1st. Shocks will help with cornering, braking and weight transfer from side to side/front to back and absorbing change in the road surface.


Have you upgraded anything on your 1LE yet?
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Those are the exact subframe mounts I was looking into
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Waiting on a couple more back-ordered parts, then I'm dropping rear cradle and adding everything @ one time. I've been told the poly bushings in the differential get eaten up so I'm waiting on those to I change them out over OEM. I have less than 1K on the car, getting ready for the new year now.

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Waiting on a couple more back-ordered parts, then I'm dropping rear cradle and adding everything @ one time. I've been told the poly bushings in the differential get eaten up so I'm waiting on those to I change them out over OEM. I have less than 1K on the car, getting ready for the new year now.
I'm really interested in the Pfadt solid mounts but I'm just concerned that they might create noise or rattle.
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Old 02-16-2014, 06:37 AM   #7
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I'm really interested in the Pfadt solid mounts but I'm just concerned that they might create noise or rattle.
I've heard they do.

Their rear trailing arm and Tie Rod package helps a bit with wheel hop too.
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I've heard the Ridetech Coil overs are really nice and they're about $600 cheaper.
Might want to check them out?
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I'm taking care of these problems now. I decided to go with basically the Pedders formula though. I'm adding a makeshift Permagrin Kit. I got one of the last rear bars from Summit Racing and I bought some Whiteline Bushings from Phastek they (Whiteline) make the Pedders bushings. I got the front radius bushings (don't do anything for wheel hop) and the rear cradle bushings for roughly $200 shipped. There are some videos out there that Pete posted that look very similar to the performance of the Pfadt solid bushings. Also remember the 1LE comes with ZL1 trailering arms which are a substantial upgrade to the standard pieces. While all of this isn't as substantial as the Pfadt parts it's a hell of a lot cheaper.

As for the Pfadt Coil Overs I recently talked to them and they told me the Featherlight's are the way to go. The GMPP version is more "Show than Go"

http://store.pfadtracing.com/2010-ca...-street-track/

The Ridetechs do look promising but somehow for a couple hundred more (once you use Camaro5 discounts most vendors offer) they give me a more warm and fuzzy feeling.

Also note the Pfadts are 6-8 weeks out. My wallet is at least that far out too though. lol

Research the two and come to your own conclusion.

Also if you read this thread it goes over the 1LE suspension in a little more detail and also has the vids I mentioned... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285242
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I've heard the Ridetech Coil overs are really nice and they're about $600 cheaper.
Might want to check them out?


Got any links to this one? I never heard of them
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Old 02-16-2014, 12:35 PM   #11
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I'm taking care of these problems now. I decided to go with basically the Pedders formula though. I'm adding a makeshift Permagrin Kit. I got one of the last rear bars from Summit Racing and I bought some Whiteline Bushings from Phastek they (Whiteline) make the Pedders bushings. I got the front radius bushings (don't do anything for wheel hop) and the rear cradle bushings for roughly $200 shipped. There are some videos out there that Pete posted that look very similar to the performance of the Pfadt solid bushings. Also remember the 1LE comes with ZL1 trailering arms which are a substantial upgrade to the standard pieces. While all of this isn't as substantial as the Pfadt parts it's a hell of a lot cheaper.

As for the Pfadt Coil Overs I recently talked to them and they told me the Featherlight's are the way to go. The GMPP version is more "Show than Go"

http://store.pfadtracing.com/2010-ca...-street-track/

The Ridetechs do look promising but somehow for a couple hundred more (once you use Camaro5 discounts most vendors offer) they give me a more warm and fuzzy feeling.

Also note the Pfadts are 6-8 weeks out. My wallet is at least that far out too though. lol

Research the two and come to your own conclusion.

Also if you read this thread it goes over the 1LE suspension in a little more detail and also has the vids I mentioned... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285242

You touched the point that I was very interested in. I checked the Featherlight which had great features and were at least $400 cheaper. Why will they be better than the GMPP? Also do we really get a discount as forum members?
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Got any links to this one? I never heard of them
They are a vendor here on the Board.
Chase @ Apex sells them also.
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Just completed a complete Pfadt race suspension system for the track. They had the most complete set on the market. Did a ton of reserach and chose Pfadt.

Did a Pedders system on my G8 GXP a couple of years ago but wanted to try a different system. Had less than one track day to try things out so I really don't have much to report about handling.

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Just completed a complete Pfadt race suspension system for the track. They had the most complete set on the market. Did a ton of reserach and chose Pfadt.

Did a Pedders system on my G8 GXP a couple of years ago but wanted to try a different system. Had less than one track day to try things out so I really don't have much to report about handling.

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Damn I can Definetly say I'm jealous. How much for all those parts!????
What exactly did u get ? I can see the coilovers but which ones did u get? How much did u get them for!?

I also noticed the solid subframe bushings and the rear trailing arms and rear tie rods!? Did u notice any harsh ride or any noise?

Also do u need to drop the rear cradle to do all the suspension work?
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You touched the point that I was very interested in. I checked the Featherlight which had great features and were at least $400 cheaper. Why will they be better than the GMPP? Also do we really get a discount as forum members?
The GMPP and the Featherlite have the same shock the difference is the spring. Supposedly they get that much better of a price on the springs for the Fetherlite. Plus the GMPP sticker probably cost a bit too.

Go to the Vendors any of the following will be able to take care of you. JDP/Phastek/Apex. Whomever has the best price gets the sale.

I like the guys at JDP Motorsports that's my endorsement if it matters at all. I've also had good luck with Phastek. I've not had the opportunity to buy from Apex yet.

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Check out MTI Racing, they have some goodies that would help you out. Also, they have the pfadt coils for a decent price. They might even do member discounts as i'm pretty sure they are a sponsor.
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Check out MTI Racing, they have some goodies that would help you out. Also, they have the pfadt coils for a decent price. They might even do member discounts as i'm pretty sure they are a sponsor.
I will check them out rightnow . Thanks for the info
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I got the Eibach springs that dropped the car 1.0 in the front Nd 1.3 in the rear.
If I was to sell my 1LE struts with the eibach springs. Will they fit a owner of a camaro v6?
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Just completed a complete Pfadt race suspension system for the track. They had the most complete set on the market. Did a ton of reserach and chose Pfadt.

Did a Pedders system on my G8 GXP a couple of years ago but wanted to try a different system. Had less than one track day to try things out so I really don't have much to report about handling.

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So this is where that massive box went! haha Awesome man, can't wait to see some track results!

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So this is where that massive box went! haha Awesome man, can't wait to see some track results!

How much for a massive box with all those components???
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Pfadt sells a road course race package that includes all these parts. I think it was just shy of $4k. I just tried to look on their web site but it has changed since last September when I ordered them. Not really sure.

Only order this extreme package for road racing. The cars rides rough on the street. As you can see one of the items was solid motor mounts. If you really want to feel what 654hp feels like at your steering wheel, get solid motor mounts!

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Got any links to this one? I never heard of them
Lio, we have them listed on our website just below the Pfadt coil overs we discussed yesterday. Sometime in the next few weeks we will be installing a set on Apex Paul's daily driver.
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Lio, we have them listed on our website just below the Pfadt coil overs we discussed yesterday. Sometime in the next few weeks we will be installing a set on Apex Paul's daily driver.


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Which ones are better?

I would buy the Ride Tech coilovers as they are a great product at a great price, and the company stands behind them with excellent customer service.

I know the owner of Ride Tech from racing with him at events like LS Fest and if I need coilover replacements for my Pedders, those are what I am buying because they work well from watching him beat my time in their 2010 Camaro on the autocross and they come with a million mile warranty....any questions, check this thread and read the head of their engineering departments comments...

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So I'm currently with 509 RWHP with the Turbonetics kit 76 at 5.8 psi. I'm gonna do a Comp cam . Pushrods , dual valve springs. Increase boost and custom tune.
Plan is to end up at 600rhwp
So I know I need to also upgrade my suspension to avoid wheel hop?

I been looking at the Pfadt cool overs but they are $2,790. Any info? Meaning has anyone with a 1LE done it? Are they worth the money!?
Coilovers are not really going to help with wheel hop, but they will help with handling.

To get rid of wheel hop go with a set of Pfadt Subframe bushings, Upper control arm bushings, and trailing arms with outer bushings. These are the key items that really need to be addressed.

As for the coilover question, We are excited to try out the RideTech coilovers, but I still fancy Pfadt's inverted design. We'll be testing a set soon and will be able to provide some good feed back and comparison to the Pfadt coilovers.

Please feel free to call, PM or email me anytime. I'm always happy to help!

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