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Old 02-21-2014, 02:22 AM   #18
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I would have to agree with the driver comment.
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:21 AM   #19
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the RX8 is a great car for AutoX but lacks the power to dominate a road course or to keep up with the big boys. You need to make a bet with him, loser pays for the winners track day fee.
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:36 AM   #20
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A little too much discounting of drivers in this discussion, but agree that with equal drivers, the 1LE would absolutely annihilate a stock, or even not so stock, RX8.

Back to the driver thing though, I haven't watched it in a while, but there was a great video on YouTube of Doug Hayashi (of NSX-Files fame) in his relatively stock Honda S2000 (only mods were tires and pads IIRC) just walking away from a Ferrari 355, a 360 Challenge Stradale, and he would catch an F50 in the twisty bits but lose him on the banking (believe this was a track day at California Motor Speedway in the SportsCar configuration).

I just Googled the video but can't find it, here's something I did find though, an S2000 being held up continuously by a couple of 360 Challenge Stradales:


It's the driver more than the car.
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Old 02-21-2014, 12:11 PM   #21
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A little too much discounting of drivers in this discussion, but agree that with equal drivers, the 1LE would absolutely annihilate a stock, or even not so stock, RX8.

Back to the driver thing though, I haven't watched it in a while, but there was a great video on YouTube of Doug Hayashi (of NSX-Files fame) in his relatively stock Honda S2000 (only mods were tires and pads IIRC) just walking away from a Ferrari 355, a 360 Challenge Stradale, and he would catch an F50 in the twisty bits but lose him on the banking (believe this was a track day at California Motor Speedway in the SportsCar configuration).

I just Googled the video but can't find it, here's something I did find though, an S2000 being held up continuously by a couple of 360 Challenge Stradales:


It's the driver more than the car.
Amen.......in 90% of the cases of cars on this forum, the most important mod is the fool (present company included) holding the wheel! Instead though, a CAI is installed!
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Old 02-21-2014, 08:51 PM   #22
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those s2000s are pesky I have to make sure I'm on my line to walk away from them one slip up and they're right behind you
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:33 PM   #23
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those s2000s are pesky I have to make sure I'm on my line to walk away from them one slip up and they're right behind you
Driven one? Phenomenal car. My best friend is a track instructor with the BMWCCA. A first-timer brought one out to play at Limerock and my buddy got to instruct him in it and later drive it on the track shortly. He bought one that night.

I've driven his extensively and I've got to admit, it is damn near perfect. If I lived in an area with closer access to good roads, I would have bought one instead of the 1LE. But with the significant amount of highway I have, I opted for something with a bit more grunt that could be fun on an on-ramp (doesn't hurt that I'm a sucker for the sound of a clean SBC).
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:46 PM   #24
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Owned both a stock RX8 and the 1LE. Tracked the RX8 before and, with the same driver, it won't stand a chance on a road course vs the 1LE. Unless you stay above 4000 RPM in the RX8 (redlines at 8000 RPM if I remember correctly) it has poor acceleration.
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Old 02-22-2014, 10:18 AM   #25
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The issue is not the car. The performance difference between the two vehicles is there, no question. However, anyone who has tracked their car for a while knows you can't underestimate any kind of vehicle because you just don't know the capabilities of the driver. Granted, it doesn't sound like the guy that owned the RX8 was really experienced, for some reason. However, how many times have you seen a supercar on track being driven at less than it's potential? Many.
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Old 02-22-2014, 08:41 PM   #26
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Driven one? Phenomenal car. My best friend is a track instructor with the BMWCCA. A first-timer brought one out to play at Limerock and my buddy got to instruct him in it and later drive it on the track shortly. He bought one that night.

I've driven his extensively and I've got to admit, it is damn near perfect. If I lived in an area with closer access to good roads, I would have bought one instead of the 1LE. But with the significant amount of highway I have, I opted for something with a bit more grunt that could be fun on an on-ramp (doesn't hurt that I'm a sucker for the sound of a clean SBC).
Ye I've driven one and it is a great car for what it i but im not a fan of cars like it. Just my opinion i love muscle cars the 1LE just made my love more cause I love road course more than drag
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