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Old 02-23-2014, 01:49 PM   #1
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which coil overs

So my wheels are being made as I type. They are going to be 20x8.5 front 6 1/4 backspacing, 20x10 rear 7 backspacing.

I am looking into lowering the car approx. 1.5" and plan to use coil overs.

The car is mostly just a daily driver, but once I get everything done suspension wise I will be doing some occasional road course racing as well.

So my question for you all is, what is the best bang for the buck LOL.

I am wanting adjustable height and stiffness in the coil overs

I have been researching different brands and just wanted some info from folks that have different items.

AGAIN. the car is mostly a DD with OCCASIONAL road course action.

I am not looking for top of the line, lightest stuff out there stuff..

thanks for any opinions posted
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Do you have your foundation taken care of yet? Do you have bushings installed? Since you are a DD look into prothane or whiteline.

Coilovers, well that comes down to your budget. You have BC Racing on the low side, Pfadt on the High and KW a happy medium. Again, budget is key. Take a look at their warranties. That might help with your desicion.

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Warranty? How about 1,000,001 miles?
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Old 02-23-2014, 02:44 PM   #4
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foundation will be taken care of before coil overs are installed.

budget is something I want to keep in mind but more importantly dont want to over pay for something either. Pfadt is a little on the high side for me… seems to be more for folks that are dedicated to racing, where i am more interested in occasional racing and mostly DD
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So my wheels are being made as I type. They are going to be 20x8.5 front 6 1/4 backspacing, 20x10 rear 7 backspacing.

I am looking into lowering the car approx. 1.5" and plan to use coil overs.

The car is mostly just a daily driver, but once I get everything done suspension wise I will be doing some occasional road course racing as well.

So my question for you all is, what is the best bang for the buck LOL.

I am wanting adjustable height and stiffness in the coil overs

I have been researching different brands and just wanted some info from folks that have different items.

AGAIN. the car is mostly a DD with OCCASIONAL road course action.

I am not looking for top of the line, lightest stuff out there stuff..

thanks for any opinions posted
A guy was selling KW V3 brand new a while back like 6 months ago for $1300 but he may have sold them by now.
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KW V1 Middle, KW V3 and Clubsport High end..... agreed. Great Warranty IIRC.
Downside, KW3's do not work with ZL1 sway bars because of the side oil canister.

Ridetech, great company but no one has put them on their car yet so no reviews yet. Some folks have seen them and said the "look" pretty but that does not help us much. I wouldn't mind putting a set on my car but I already have a set of coilovers and do not need two sets. But with the data I have at Autobahn CC with changes I have made to my car it would be interesting to see if they make any difference.

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I just recently installed Megan racing coilovers and my eibach front and rear sways. and my friend that has kw coilovers even said that it feels really planted and responsive and should I say it cost just half of what the top tier brands are. Love my coilovers maybe I'm biased but hey.
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KW V1 Middle, KW V3 and Clubsport High end..... agreed. Great Warranty IIRC.
Downside, KW3's do not work with ZL1 sway bars because of the side oil canister.

Ridetech, great company but no one has put them on their car yet so no reviews yet. Some folks have seen them and said the "look" pretty but that does not help us much. I wouldn't mind putting a set on my car but I already have a set of coilovers and do not need two sets. But with the data I have at Autobahn CC with changes I have made to my car it would be interesting to see if they make any difference.

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T., the Ride Tech ones would be what I would pick right know without Pedders in the mix...I bought Ride Tech's Level 3 Coilovers for my 1956 Chevy 210 I am having built to Autox at Good Guys and if I had to replace my Pedders today, those are what I would buy for the Camaro...

Bret from Ride Tech was driving their 2010 Camaro at LS Fest in Bowling Green in the Autocross and I couldn't catch his time, so I think they gotta handle great...I think they have them priced well and love the warranty they offer...and unlike Pedder's who has left us without a warranty, Ride Tech has been around for a long time and they just keep getting bigger....
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KW V1 Middle, KW V3 and Clubsport High end..... agreed. Great Warranty IIRC.
Downside, KW3's do not work with ZL1 sway bars because of the side oil canister.

Ridetech, great company but no one has put them on their car yet so no reviews yet. Some folks have seen them and said the "look" pretty but that does not help us much. I wouldn't mind putting a set on my car but I already have a set of coilovers and do not need two sets. But with the data I have at Autobahn CC with changes I have made to my car it would be interesting to see if they make any difference.

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Sounds like you would be the perfect candidate to do some testing!

We have a set here we're going to test, but we won't be able to do so for about a month or so. I feel pretty confident that the RideTech coilover will be a great option; we won't know until we test them though.

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I wouldn't mind putting a set on my car but I already have a set of coilovers and do not need two sets.
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T, sell the Pedders before they leak. The ones I sold with only a few thousand miles started to leak for the guy that bought them. I replaced them with Pfadts, but now I worry about their customer service and ability to repair them in a timely matter. Already had a front one repaired after my little incident at the Autobahn last May. Pretty quick turn around then, but now?

Not only do you need to worry about quality of the product, but can the company repair/replace their parts in a reasonable amount of time. I know Ridetech been around for years. It would be nice to have a company that can take care of its customers in a timely manner.
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T, sell the Pedders before they leak. The ones I sold with only a few thousand miles started to leak for the guy that bought them. I replaced them with Pfadts, but now I worry about their customer service and ability to repair them in a timely matter. Already had a front one repaired after my little incident at the Autobahn last May. Pretty quick turn around then, but now?

Not only do you need to worry about quality of the product, but can the company repair/replace their parts in a reasonable amount of time. I know Ridetech been around for years. It would be nice to have a company that can take care of its customers in a timely manner.
For me, I'll keep my supercars till they crap out, if they do as most do not. I wont saddle someone else with a potential problem, Shame on pedders for bailing on us, wont buy from them ever again even if they come back to the U.S.as the warranty I have isnt worth squat now.
Ridetech sounds like a good option. I'll find out soon as a freind near me just got a set
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T., the Ride Tech ones would be what I would pick right know without Pedders in the mix...I bought Ride Tech's Level 3 Coilovers for my 1956 Chevy 210 I am having built to Autox at Good Guys and if I had to replace my Pedders today, those are what I would buy for the Camaro...

Bret from Ride Tech was driving their 2010 Camaro at LS Fest in Bowling Green in the Autocross and I couldn't catch his time, so I think they gotta handle great...I think they have them priced well and love the warranty they offer...and unlike Pedder's who has left us without a warranty, Ride Tech has been around for a long time and they just keep getting bigger....
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Sounds like you would be the perfect candidate to do some testing!

We have a set here we're going to test, but we won't be able to do so for about a month or so. I feel pretty confident that the RideTech coilover will be a great option; we won't know until we test them though.

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T, sell the Pedders before they leak. The ones I sold with only a few thousand miles started to leak for the guy that bought them. I replaced them with Pfadts, but now I worry about their customer service and ability to repair them in a timely matter. Already had a front one repaired after my little incident at the Autobahn last May. Pretty quick turn around then, but now?

Not only do you need to worry about quality of the product, but can the company repair/replace their parts in a reasonable amount of time. I know Ridetech been around for years. It would be nice to have a company that can take care of its customers in a timely manner.
Good points all. I even called down there today and spoke with Kyle about their product. I am seriously considering it.

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I wont saddle someone else with a potential problem...
Sorry, was more of a joke. Yeah I would not do that to someone knowing at this point it's money down the drain. In my mind, it's not a matter if the XAs leak, it's when.

I sold mine last May before this Pedder's business came up. The buyer contacted me about a month ago asking if I had the original receipt for warranty. He quoted some astronomical amount to get them repaired with BC parts.
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The only thing i would ask is if ride tech warranty the third party spring. No question as to ride tech staying around or the service that comes with their products. They have proven that on more car guy orientated platforms.
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The only thing i would ask is if ride tech warranty the third party spring. No question as to ride tech staying around or the service that comes with their products. They have proven that on more car guy orientated platforms.
The warranty will cover the entire CoilOver, spring included. Hyperco's been around for a LONG time. I'm not sure exactly how long, but I do know Hypercoils have been utilized by every Indianapolis 500 winner since 1965. Check them out, http://www.hypercoils.com/. If there's any issue at all with the CoilOver assembly, you're covered for the life of the car and then some.
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Sorry, was more of a joke. Yeah I would not do that to someone knowing at this point it's money down the drain. In my mind, it's not a matter if the XAs leak, it's when.

I sold mine last May before this Pedder's business came up. The buyer contacted me about a month ago asking if I had the original receipt for warranty. He quoted some astronomical amount to get them repaired with BC parts.
Cool, my bad, to serious that day. Nice if Pedders Aus would handle that sort of thing, guess they dont? So far friend out here has no problems, knock on wood for mine. One member I know has leaking supercars but are older. also go to soft or full soft like for drags may possibly contribute to seals leaking, I dont go below 6 on bound and keep rebound 8-10 minimum. To bad repair are costly, but maybe worth it for me as supercars are costly
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Well....Pfadt is now not an option any more. They just posted that they are closing down. Looks like Ridetech might have hit the market at the right time.
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They're dropping like flies: http://www.pfadtracing.com/blog/pfad...ng-has-closed/
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Sucks to see Pfadt quitting. I have their entire package, and performs well.

Looking at Ridetech, their stuff looks good. Detroit Speed & Engineering is the other option also (DSE also offers cradle bushing kit)
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Ride Tech is the best option now...DSE does makes great stuff but considerably more expensive....I have been to Ride Tech's facility in the past on a road trip last year and they have product on the shelves, as their owner Bret, believes in having stock available. Ride Tech continues to grow and they have a great warranty...my next coilovers will be from Ride Tech...
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To bad about Pfadt. But big demand and not enough backing is as bad as not enough demand
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Ride Tech is the best option now...DSE does makes great stuff but considerably more expensive....I have been to Ride Tech's facility in the past on a road trip last year and they have product on the shelves, as their owner Bret, believes in having stock available. Ride Tech continues to grow and they have a great warranty...my next coilovers will be from Ride Tech...
Hey Danny, just got a text from Scott at SuperCar right when Pfadt announced on FB. Anyways, we were talking about who is left. So he tells me that Air Ride Technologies is the company making the Ride Tech coil overs, and sold through Ride Tech. Brent Voekel (did he mean Bret?) is the guy, he was at Heidts with the '33 Ford. Sound like he's been doing this since the 80's. Hopefully this means a stable company for years down the road.
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We've been in business as Air Ride Technologies since 1996.
Ridetech.com has been our website since day one (you know, when websites were text with blue underlined hyperlinks). Until a few years ago we made only pneumatic suspension products for Hot Rods, old and new Muscle Cars, military, and "OE" applications (We don't have any large OE accounts, but a number of vehicles that are built on an assembly line).

Air Ride is still the name as far as uncle Sam is concerned. But since we have branched out into the traditional coil over market we felt a name change was required. . .hence Ridetech.

Bret and his wife are the owners, and has been seen all over the country an on TV with our 33 Ford as of late.
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Hey Danny, just got a text from Scott at SuperCar right when Pfadt announced on FB. Anyways, we were talking about who is left. So he tells me that Air Ride Technologies is the company making the Ride Tech coil overs, and sold through Ride Tech. Brent Voekel (did he mean Bret?) is the guy, he was at Heidts with the '33 Ford. Sound like he's been doing this since the 80's. Hopefully this means a stable company for years down the road.
Yes, Bret Voekel is the guy you are thinking about in his 33....Ride Tech has been around for a long time, but started as Air Ride Technologies as Britt posted above...The one thing I love about Ride Tech is they are out at the events competing alongside their customers on a regular basis and each one of their guys will help you out with questions you might have.

You know, Ride Tech's coilover's weren't available when I bought my Supercars, otherwise I would have had them...and I as I posted before, I just bought a Level 3 Coilover set up for my 1956 Chevy that is being built to autox at Good Guys events, so I believe in their product and the people behind it.
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