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Old 03-16-2014, 10:27 PM   #1
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best cam specs

ive already posted a thread like this but I am actualy going to do a new cam very soon but im still not sure of exactly what cam to get? im not looking for everyone to suggest there own cam im just looking for for opinions on what everyone thinks the best powered cam out there is but I also don't want it to be all power with no torque but I would like a good amount of power too it doesn't have to be midranged and equal. I justy did a 9inch kit with 3.91 gears and I have 3in exhaust and lt headers and cai along with pfadt motor mounts bc coils and I also have a tire so I am basically trying to find the best cam for my modds I already made 428 rwhp and 426 rwtq soo any suggestions would be great. thanks! I also have the m6 ls3 btw and I do like the really lopey sound although that's not the reason im doing the cam.

also any dyno graphs pictures ect would be great along with it!
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Old 03-17-2014, 01:15 AM   #2
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Night fury imo, the tq is better than just about all the others, and it makes ~480+. Also a great platform to add a centri blower to.
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Old 03-17-2014, 01:21 AM   #3
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Another Vote for the night Fury. I love the way my car feels now. Here is the dyno graph for mine plus a link to my build.



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Old 03-17-2014, 01:35 AM   #4
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Another Vote for the night Fury. I love the way my car feels now. Here is the dyno graph for mine plus a link to my build.



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There's that torque again.......
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Old 03-17-2014, 01:58 AM   #5
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That tq is misleading unless you specify that it's with ported heads. A good set of ported heads is worth 30-40tq.
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That tq is misleading unless you specify that it's with ported heads. A good set of ported heads is worth 30-40tq.
So you're saying that the nf cam gave no increase in tq? He picked up ~40, so is your claim that thats all the heads? Plenty of other cars out there making boat loads of tq with tjat cam and stock heads.
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Old 03-17-2014, 02:26 AM   #7
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Here is without the ported heads and intake. 450RWTQ

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Even 450rwtq is strong for basically cam only, that would be 40rwtq gain fron where I was with intake and headers.
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Old 03-17-2014, 08:31 AM   #9
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So you're saying that the nf cam gave no increase in tq? He picked up ~40, so is your claim that thats all the heads? Plenty of other cars out there making boat loads of tq with tjat cam and stock heads.
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Here is without the ported heads and intake. 450RWTQ

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I NEVER said the NFC didn't make tq. I said,

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That tq is misleading unless you specify that it's with ported heads. A good set of ported heads is worth 30-40tq
I've yet to see a NFC or any similar sized cam get 480 ft/lbs of tq without heads. That's not a knock on any of them, just giving the OP accurate information. How would you feel if the OP installed a NFC without heads, at YOUR recommendation, and didn't get anywhere near 480 tq? The one above gained 24whp which is close to what's expected. Still very nice numbers either way.
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Best cam is the one you get SPEC'D for your setup/goals I am not a fan of a cam that hundreds run off the self plus From what I've been told the NF isn't always the same specs from what members have shared.


It sure sounds good and all but it isn't the best one out there just my 2 cents.
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Here is another one at ~460 tq no heads.

The reason I went with the night fury is that the power comes on quickly and there isn't a huge loss in power/tq down low compared to other cams, yet it still produces above average numbers.

You could also use a smaller cam from rick crawford and mill the heads, which would probably net similar gains.
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Old 03-17-2014, 04:22 PM   #12
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I agree what someone else said....do some research and choose what fits you best. Understand this...there are lots of cams that will increase hp/tq. The important thing is where in the rpm range this occures. For these heavy cars, you want your tq kicking in early in the rpms. My .02 would be keep the duration under 228 and lift under .600. Keep it tight with the lsa......112-108. You will get all the useable tq you need all under the curve.
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I NEVER said the NFC didn't make tq. I said,



I've yet to see a NFC or any similar sized cam get 480 ft/lbs of tq without heads. That's not a knock on any of them, just giving the OP accurate information. How would you feel if the OP installed a NFC without heads, at YOUR recommendation, and didn't get anywhere near 480 tq? The one above gained 24whp which is close to what's expected. Still very nice numbers either way.
My Night Fury has 477 torque with stock heads
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Old 03-17-2014, 05:41 PM   #14
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This picture of dyno sheet shows the torgue of the Night Fury Cam with stock heads. The line went straight up until 4500 rpm then curved to 477.Name:  dyno.jpg
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My Night Fury has 477 torque with stock heads
And what does it run in the 1/4?
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:17 PM   #16
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here TSP's best cam, not exactly the most tame, have to rev some to not surge in the low gears. 491 h.p. , 448 torque Stock ls3 with CAI induction and Stainless power headers with cats through dual mode exhaust...2013 Camaro with electric power steering. No under drive pulley, no ported heads or intakes, or throttle body just the basic three with a good tune, and pulls like a raging ape on steroids straight to the moon. it is the .639/ .623 cam with .675 springs 235/239 duration 112 lSA. Budget build and its just fine with me.



DID IT BEAT THE " NIGHT FURY" SIMILARLY EQUIPPED? That's for you to figure out.
Mines on a SAE Mustang dyno too. I am sure the dual mode helped and electric power steering?
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So everyone is judging a cam by the DYNO numbers vs track numbers????



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And what does it run in the 1/4?
I have no idea what it will run in the 1/4. I'm that older guy you read about with the car that never seen the track and never will. Sorry
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I agree what someone else said....do some research and choose what fits you best. Understand this...there are lots of cams that will increase hp/tq. The important thing is where in the rpm range this occures. For these heavy cars, you want your tq kicking in early in the rpms. My .02 would be keep the duration under 228 and lift under .600. Keep it tight with the lsa......112-108. You will get all the useable tq you need all under the curve.
I agree with this! My little cam I hand picked and does very well for what it is because the power it makes under the curve. Even once I go bigger I am keeping the duration around 220-235 ish on a 110 .580-600 max lift. That's just me, I want power to come in quick and I don't see the need for extreme lift! Dyno numbers don't mean to much, I want to see track times to back up claims. 10 peak HP does not mean its faster on the track!
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So everyone is judging a cam by the DYNO numbers vs track numbers????



That's why there are so many slow 1/4 miles camaro's
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That's why there are so many slow 1/4 miles camaro's
Yup, seems people go for the most talked about big dyno numbered cams and not the ones getting the quickest times.
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And what does it run in the 1/4?
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=346360

Note the trap speeds. The reason why this cam isn't judged by track numbers is because not everyone tracks their car. It's getting old seeing that comment in every thread. Also, most nf cars are m6, which require much more skill and seat time to get down the track properly.
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I agree with this! My little cam I hand picked and does very well for what it is because the power it makes under the curve. Even once I go bigger I am keeping the duration around 220-235 ish on a 110 .580-600 max lift. That's just me, I want power to come in quick and I don't see the need for extreme lift! Dyno numbers don't mean to much, I want to see track times to back up claims. 10 peak HP does not mean its faster on the track!
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Note the trap speeds. The reason why this cam isn't judged by track numbers is because not everyone tracks their car. It's getting old seeing that comment in every thread. Also, most nf cars are m6, which require much more skill and seat time to get down the track properly.

your point is? NF ain't the BEST out there thats for sure there is no "BEST"

Edit: I'm a drag racer so I look at numbers at the track I careless what a dyno sheet says.

Not turning this into a pissing match,
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Our SS3 makes 490's 450's on stock heads.

SS2 is about 10 hp and tq less, with better power up to about 4k.
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