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Old 01-09-2014, 11:15 AM   #1
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2012 IBM ZL1 for sale?!

http://www.campbellchevrolet.com/Veh...-KY/2149786883

I thought this was a CTF car and not meant to be sold?! Is this legit? Talking to wife about it now.
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I think there was like 2-3 IBM ones built before the color was dropped.

Hard to tell whats going on which actual pictures of the car.

Sure as hell wouldn't pay $58K for a 2 year old car though.
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I think there was like 2-3 IBM ones built before the color was dropped.

Hard to tell whats going on which actual pictures of the car.

Sure as hell wouldn't pay $58K for a 2 year old car though.
That vin is a CTF car.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:46 AM   #4
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Still, 58K? You can likely get a new 13 or 14 for that.
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I thought in 12 there were only 4 blue ones and they werent available to public.
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yeah considering I paid 55k brand new over a year ago that price is lame. I have seen people getting better deals than that now that they have built 10k of them.
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One of the four was raffled off by the Corvette Museum about a year ago. Maybe this is that one. That dealer is in Bowling Green, KY.
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If it is one of four.... might be the reason they have it at that price.
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:56 PM   #10
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If it is one of four.... might be the reason they have it at that price.
Exactly. It's one of the four ZL1's that were painted IBM
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Very rare and if documented, that is the reason for price. If these cars are ever worth anything to collectors, that will be a big difference.
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Key word...IF.

A CTF car doesn't always get the best of care either. Recall they're for real-world testing.

Go buy it, put it in a bubble, and even if you can get up $85K or so 20 years from now on a 2% (conservative) inflation rate, you still won't break even.

It's your money, but I'd pass.
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I bet it's the one that guy paid $25 for one raffle ticket at the Corvette Museum to win. I remember reading about it. Guess he decided to get rid of it.
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It's not his. If you do a VIN search, this comes up: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198379

I'm not considering buying it except for the fact that it is rare and the ZL1 would be awesome to own in that color. Whatever my next 5th gen is will be a keeper unless it too gets wrecked like my last one. I do agree that the price is too high as well as I wonder what the mileage on it is.
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Dealer webpage already marked this as sold.

This would be one of two stick cars, one of four IBMs total. All were pre-production, i.e., C97997xx series.
Some cars from this series were show, some for press and VIPs, and others for test. I estimate 69 cars were built in this series.

This one had the CTF sticker in the Daytona pics, so it should have clocked several thousand miles before GM sold it.
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2012 Official ZL1 Camaro Specs

Wheelbase 112.3
Length 190.4
Height 54.2
Front Track 63.7
Rear Track 63.7
Head Room, Front 37.40
Head Room, Rear 35.30
Shoulder Room, Front 56.90
Shoulder Room, Rear 50.42
Leg Room, Front 42.40
Leg Room, Rear 29.90
Weight 4120 pounds
Weight distribution 51/49
Compression ratio 9.1:1
HP 580 (427) @ 6000 SAE certified
Torque 556 (754) @ 4200 SAE certified
Exhaust - Cast stainless steel (exhaust manifolds), stainless steel with active valves and quad 3.5" bright tips

2012 ZL1 COUPE TOTAL PRODUCTION

Assembly Oshawa, Ontario Canada
There were 1,971 ZL1's produced for the initial 2012 model year (99 were officially allocated for Canada).
Total Show Cars & Test CTF ZL1's: 69 | Grand Total Built = 1,971
Description RPO Code Count
ZL1 with Clear Carbon Fiber Hood insert B92 1,548
ZL1 with DSW Stripe - (memo to B92) DSW 241
ZL1 with Black Carbon Fiber Insert -B92 423
ZL1 with DSX Stripe - (memo to -B92) DSX 96
ZL1 with Manual Transmission MG9 1,300
ZL1 with Automatic Transmission MYD 671
ZL1 with Optional Polished Wheel RTQ 1,058
ZL1 with Base Black Wheel RSK 913
There were also CTF ZL1's built this year as test models. Some of them will be re-sold to dealers and had different VINS then a production 2012 ZL1. The CTF VINS started with C9799XXX. ZL1 registry has just received the correct counts for the 2012 CTF ZL1's. The breakdown of these rare cars is:

8 ZL1's were strictly marketing cars
45 ZL1's were assigned as actual CTF test fleet
Total number of the C9799XXX vin built for 2012 model year: 69
These preproduction ZL1's are very rare and will be collectors in the coming years. Our take here at the *********** is, if you find one buy it!
2012 ZL1 PRODUCTION NUMBERS
COLOR AUTO (MYD) MANUAL (MG9) TOTAL COLOR
Black (GBA) 252 465 717
Victory Red (GCN) 159 321 480
Ashen Gray (GLJ) 72 144 216
Inferno Orange (GCR) 49 107 156
Summit White (GAZ) 45 94 139
Silver (GAN) 49 62 111
Crystal Red (GBE) 26 53 79
Rally Yellow (GCO) 17 52 69
Imperial Blue (GAP) 2 2 4
TOTAL AUTO TOTAL MANUAL TOTAL CARS
TOTALS 671 1,300 1,971
COLORS

Black
Ashen Gray
Imperial Blue Metallic ( Cancelled for 2012 ZL1 model year )
Inferno Orange Metallic
Rally Yellow
Silver Ice Metallic
Summit White
Victory Red
Crystal Red Tintcoat
Note: A total of 4 Imperial Blue Metallic ZL1 Coupes were built as GM show Cars.

Note: No official ZL1 Convertibles for the 2012 model year.

WHEEL OPTIONS

ZL1 offers two 20-inch wheel options, both tested and engineered to the highest standards.

The first wheel option is a 10-spoke design

Standard 10-spoke wheel is black with a low-gloss clear coat, forged alum and has the CAMARO logo.
The other wheel option is a 5-spoke design:

Forged Aluminum 5-spoke 20-inch wheels (20" x 10" front / 20" x 11" rear)
Polished face with a high-gloss clearcoat.
These wheels are 11 lbs lighter than the current 2SS model wheels.
EXTERIOR/ENGINE/TRANSMISSION/INTERIOR

Exterior:

Forged aluminum wheels (as listed above)
Exposed weave Carbon Fiber hood insert (option). ** Standard insert is painted black
Power Sunroof (option)
Stripe package (option)
Engine:

LSA 6.2L Supercharged V-8
Displacement (cu in / cc): 376 / 6162
Bore & stroke (in / mm): 4.06 / 103.25 x 3.62 / 92 mm
Block material: cast aluminum (319-T5)
Cylinder head material: cast aluminum (roto-cast - A356T6)
Valvetrain: overhead valve, two valves per cylinder
Fuel delivery: 1.9L supercharger with intercooler; sequential fuel injection
Compression ratio: 9.1:1
Horsepower (hp / kW @ rpm): 580 / 427 @ 6000 (SAE certified)
Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm): 556 / 754 @ 4200 (SAE certified)
Recommended fuel: premium required
Maximum engine speed (rpm): 6200
Transmission:

Hydra-Matic 6-Speed Automatic with TAP-Shift 6L90E (MYD)
Gear Ratios:
First: 4.03
Second: 2.36
Third: 1.53
Fourth: 1.15
Fifth: 0.85
Sixth: 0.67
Reverse: 3.06
Final drive ratio: 3.23
Tremec 6-Speed Manual TR6060 (MG9)
Gear ratios:
First: 2.66
Second: 1.78
Third: 1.30
Fourth: 1.00
Fifth: 0.80
Sixth: 0.63
Reverse: 2.90
Final drive ratio: 3.73
Interior:

Leather wrapped steering wheel and shift knob - standard
Sueded microfiber interior package ( option )
OTHER DETAILS:

Four-pack auxiliary gauges (with boost readout)
Alloy pedal covers
6-way power driver and passenger seats
Heated leather high-performance seats with microfiber suede inserts
ZL1 sill plates
Bluetooth for select phones
Boston Acoustics premium nine-speaker system
Rear camera display in mirror
Rear park assist
USB portPDIM (Preferred Device Interface Module)
XM Satellite with 3 trial months
184 MPH factory top speed
12.0 @ 119 mph Auto/12.1 @ 119 mph manual
0-60 mph = 3.9 auto A6/4.0 Sec manual M6
Testing tracks include: ( 741.27) at Nurburgring, VIR track testing
1/3 of the original camaro SS upgraded for ZL1
Built on same production line as SS/LS/LT & convertible
6.2L supercharged V8 LSA engine from CTS-V with more power added
3.73 rear gear ratio (M6) / 3.23 rear gear ratio (A6)
7mm lower ride height then a camaro SS
PTM performance traction management (with 5 modes)
MODE 1 for Wet conditions
MODE 2 for Dry conditions
MODE 3 for Sport 1
MODE 4 for Sport 2
MODE 5 for "Race"
Functional front lower splitter and underbody tray to help airflow
1.0G Max Lateral Grip for the track
Specialized 6L90E 6-speed automatic trans with special input gearsets, two additional planetary gears and additional clutch plate
Specialized TR6060 6-speed manual trans with flywheel,clutch input shaft
51/49 weight distribution
Functional raised vented aluminum hood with carbon fiber hood insert with air extractor
Third generation Magnetic Ride Control suspension introduced on ZL1 ( the latest version over the CTS-V/ZR1 )
ZL1 Part Numbers:

Strut Tower Brace (LT, SS, 1LE) - 22756880
Wheel Hubs (ZL1, 1LE) (4) - 25954415
Front Coil Spring (SS, 1LE) (2) - 92245257
Front Strut (1LE) (passenger side) - 22812984
Front Strut (1LE) (driver side) - 22812985
Front Sway Bar (1LE) - 22812946
Front Sway End Link (SS, ZL1, 1LE) (passenger side) - 22842515
Front Sway End Link (SS, ZL1, 1LE) (driver side) - 22842516
Rear Shock Mount (ZL1, 1LE) (passenger side upper) - 22836734
Rear Shock Mount (ZL1, 1LE) (driver side upper) - 22836727
Rear Coil Spring (SS, 1LE) (2) - 92195466
Rear Shocks (1LE) (2) - 22812987
Rear Sway Bar (ZL1, 1LE) - 22786260
Rear Sway Bar Endlink (SS, ZL1, 1LE) (2) - 22761221
Rear Lower Control Arm (SS, ZL1, 1LE) (2) - 20942237 (Needed for 2010-2011 car conversion)
Rear Toe Link (ZL1, 1LE) (2) - 22845487
3.91 Gears only ( 1LE ) - 22813040
Front Splitter kit ( 1LE ) - 22950575
Wheels 20x10 Black ( ZL1-1LE ) - 22798741
Wheels 20x11 Black ( ZL1-1LE ) - 22798743
2012 Black Painted Hood Insert - 22849323
2012-13 "Exposed" Hood Insert - 22845156
Shifter Boot-Suede - 24261464
Shifter Boot-Leather - 24263725
Steering Wheel-Suede - 22813848
Steering Wheel-Leather - 22813852
Rear Spoiler - 22828467
Fog Light-LH/RH - 10335108
Fog Light Bezel-LH - 22895339
Fog Light Bezel-RH - 22895338
Front Lower Fascia/Splitter - 22894223
Front Fascia - 22831868
Wheel Polished Front - 9599037
Wheel Polished Rear - 9599038
Emblem "ZL1" Hood - 22830718
Emblem "ZL1" RR.Deck - 22830719
Fender:RH - 20943622
Fender:LH - 20943621
Liner-Frt Whl Hse-LH - 20952837
Liner-Frt Whl Hse-RH - 20952838
Valance Kit For Front Wheel House-Liners - 22757643 (These are the two wheel liner extensions on the bottom, they come in a kit and dealer must install these as part of the PDI procedure)
Extension-Frt Whl Hse-LH - 22895341
Extension-Frt Whl Hse-RH - 22895340 (These are the pieces that "stick-out" of the front of the wheelhouse-liners,also called "guards")
Hood - 22824393
ZL1 Grille - 22893907
ZL1 Grille Emblem - 22830717
ZL1 Headlamp Housing - LH-20981021 / RH-20981022 (Same as other "RS" Camaro's)
ZL1 Dash Emblem - Dash ZL1 emblem only part of trim piece applique - 22967691
Camaro Emblem - 22752666 (Same as other Camaro's)
ZL1 Rear Bumper - 22894196
ZL1 Rear Valence - 22894221
ZL1 Rear Fascia Splash Shields - LH - 22895337 / RH-22895336
ZL1 Exhaust Tips - Not Available Separately- Must Buy Complete"CAT-BACK" SYSTEM - 22874269
ZL1 Exhaust Heat Shields - LH - 20957053 / RH - 20957052
ZL1 Rear Diff Housing - 22860925 (This is an empty housing-NO internals)
ZL1 Gears A/M 3.23 / 3.73 - 3.23 - 22835277 / 3.73 - 22835278 (Ring and pinion gears only)
ZL1 Complete Differential Asm. w/Internals - 3.23 - 20931134 / 3.73 - 20931133
Front Seat Cover Driver Bottom - 20996226
Front Seat Cover Driver Back - 22795649
Front Seat Cover Passenger Bottom - 20996215
Front Seat Cover Passenger Back - 22795669
Headrests (complete assemblies,no separate covers available) - LH/RH are the same - 20996228
Rear Seat Covers Bottom - 20996254
Rear Seat Covers Back - 20996242
2012 ZL1 VIN DECODER

2 Canada
G General Motors
1 Passenger Car
F Camaro
S SS Manual/ J SS Auto
1 37 - Coupe 2 - Door Notchback
E Restraint System
P Engine Type - LSA
9 Check Digit
C Model Year C=2012 D=2013
9 Plant Location - Oshawa #1
8
0
1
8 Vehicle Sequence #
8
5
2013 OFFICIAL ZL1 CAMARO SPECS

Wheelbase 112.3
Length 190.4
Height 54.2 / CONVERT 54.70
Front Track 63.7
Rear Track 63.7
Head Room, Front 37.40 / CONVERT 37.80
Head Room, Rear 35.30 / CONVERT 35.70
Shoulder Room, Front 56.90
Shoulder Room, Rear 50.42 / CONVERT 42.50
Leg Room, Front 42.40
Leg Room, Rear 29.90
Weight 4120 pounds Coupe / Convertible (tba)
Weight distribution 51/49
Compression ratio 9.1:1
HP 580 (427) @ 6000 SAE certified
Torque 556 (754) @ 4200 SAE certified
Exhaust - Cast stainless steel (exhaust manifolds), stainless steel with active valves and quad 3.5" bright tips

2013 ZL1 COUPE/CONVERTIBLE TOTAL PRODUCTION

Assembly Oshawa, Ontario Canada
Total Units Built & Sold: 7,956 (includes non-saleables, CTFs, MVBs, World-wide production)
Number of 2013 ZL1 Convertibles: 1,917
Number of 2013 ZL1 Coupes: 6,039
Description RPO Code Count
ZL1 with Clear Carbon Fiber Hood insert B92 5,651
ZL1 with DSW Stripe - (memo to B92) DSW 707
ZL1 with Ashen Grey Insert -B92 2,305
ZL1 with DSX Stripe - (memo to -B92) DSX 219
ZL1 with Manual Transmission MG9 4,158
ZL1 with Automatic Transmission MYD 3,798
ZL1 with Optional Polished Wheel RTQ 3,539
ZL1 with Base Black Wheel RSK 4,417
There were also CTF ZL1's built this year as test models. Some of them will be re-sold to dealers and had different VINS then a production 2013 ZL1. The CTF VINS started with D9799XXX. Nobody knows for sure how many were built.

2013 ZL1 PRODUCTION NUMBERS
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http://www.campbellchevrolet.com/Veh...-KY/2149786883

I thought this was a CTF car and not meant to be sold?! Is this legit? Talking to wife about it now.
Yes CTF cars can indeed be sold to the public. I don't remember the specifics of what the CTF car would have to go through as far as making it saleable, but I personally know of one that a local person bought.
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Yes CTF cars can indeed be sold to the public. I don't remember the specifics of what the CTF car would have to go through as far as making it saleable, but I personally know of one that a local person bought.
He's a lucky guy ,^^^^ I would like to own a ctf zl1 but nevertheless, I'm in love with # 251 .
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I cannot see the ad , but if it is indeed an IBM ZL1 it is very rare !! Very cool find for the lucky new owner

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I personally wouldn't pay a premium for a CTF. I am quite sure the car will STILL be a losing proposition as an investment. It's still a ZL1 and it's cool, but if I wanted an IBM ZL1, though, I'd jump on the deal because it would be what I wanted, not because of some paint color. And I'm not sold on someone's opinion only that it will be a collectible just because it's a CTF and it's painted IBM.

And does anyone know who bought it? Was is a guy just walked up on the lot, liked the blue, and didn't have a clue or cared about CTF or IBM? Might be parking it outside of his apartment. Who knows?

But let's say it was bought for a collectible for example. My best guess, it'll be worth oh, say 60-65K in the future when/if it gets sold. And if you bought it for the asking price of 58 and stored it away, you'll likely begin losing money in upkeep and storage in about oh, 5 years or so and every year after that. So it would be one of those "Look what I have" cars. Of course, there may be a few that would buy it for more. And that's the people the new owner may be waiting for. I think I could find a better investment for $58K
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I see it sold now. Aw darn.
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Yep, I'm willing to bet it was someone on the forum that brought it . Some one did their homework and knew what was sitting there. Keyword "rare". Like my earlier post Said "if you come across a ctf zl1 for sale, buy it".
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I'd pay $58k any day for a 2012 IBM ZL1, but that's just me. One it's rare but two and most importantly it's my favorite 5th gen color.
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