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Old 04-10-2014, 01:46 PM   #151
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So I'm looking into this. I have the SS so will keep my rear caliper but want the 2 piece rotors front and rear. Just to be sure they will work with the rear SS Brembos? Was the PN listed and are they only left and right not front and rear? One more question if I may. Do I need only one pin kit for the fronts or must I order one for each side. Thx
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Old 04-10-2014, 02:20 PM   #152
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I know you only need one pin kit and the front rotors won't work on the back since they are different sizes. Not sure if there is a two piece stock rear rotor. Don't think there is though but don't take my word on that.
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Old 04-10-2014, 02:27 PM   #153
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I know you only need one pin kit and the front rotors won't work on the back since they are different sizes. Not sure if there is a two piece stock rear rotor. Don't think there is though but don't take my word on that.
Thx for that. I was re-reading the entire thread and was just coming to edit my post.
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:25 AM   #154
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I got my 2 piece rotors yesterday so all I am waiting for are the caliper bolts and spray can of primer. Laying on the work bench the rotors are HUGE. The install should be next weekend if all goes well painting the calipers. I also plan on modifying the backing plates for cooling ducts while the old parts are removed. I just have to pickup some 3" tubing from the local exhaust shop.

Thanks to Dropspeed for sharing the part numbers for this upgrade.
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Old 04-11-2014, 03:27 PM   #155
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I took some pictures for those that are considering the upgrade but are not aware just how massive these 6 piston calipers are. I can't wait to get them painted and installed.
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Old 04-11-2014, 05:44 PM   #156
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Yep they are sweet ! Amazing thread. Thank you.
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Old 04-11-2014, 06:09 PM   #157
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okay sorry for another question but are the SS rear rotors the same?
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Old 04-11-2014, 06:12 PM   #158
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Yea. Those are the ones we have to order for the v6 to brembo swap. Be sure NOT to order the ctsv rear rotors because the offset is different.

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Old 04-11-2014, 06:15 PM   #159
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okay thanks. Got the ss brembos just need the rotors and pads. Guessing the brembo ferado pads are the stock OEM's.
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Old 04-12-2014, 06:20 PM   #160
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Yes that is correct.
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:48 AM   #161
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Cant say Thank you enough Dropspeed. I ordered my calipers this morning. I'll order rotors in a couple weeks and then the little stuff. Should have everything I need by end of summer. Good thing we can race year round down here.
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Old 04-14-2014, 09:26 AM   #162
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Cant say Thank you enough Dropspeed. I ordered my calipers this morning. I'll order rotors in a couple weeks and then the little stuff. Should have everything I need by end of summer. Good thing we can race year round down here.
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Old 04-14-2014, 09:50 AM   #163
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Should get my rotors this afternoon, Instead of getting a squared 20" set up... would a 18" setup with some meatier tires work with the fronts?
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Old 04-14-2014, 12:18 PM   #164
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Should get my rotors this afternoon, Instead of getting a squared 20" set up... would a 18" setup with some meatier tires work with the fronts?
I believe square is square. The only difference is that you get more tire selection with the 18's over the 20's. Also you will need to make sure you have caliper clearence. I've seen guys have to grind the LCA bolts or caliper tabs to clear 18's. Eventually I'll be going with a 19".
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Old 04-14-2014, 01:56 PM   #165
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Speaking of square set up. I was wondering what is lighter. Suppose you have a wheel/tire combo in 19" and 20" with the exact same overall dimensions. Assume that you have the lightest or at least pretty light wheel the tire isn't really controllable as far as weight is concerned. What are we talking about in weight savings? Also you have more sidewall to squirm on the 19".

I wonder if the 19" is necessarily the better option.

This of course is all in a road course scenario, the rules are different for 1/4 mile...

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Old 04-14-2014, 03:24 PM   #166
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The Z28 tire height is 26.2 with 19 inch tires and 30 sidewall. So it has even less side wall then the 1le or ZL1. But it has a lower center of gravity for for track benefits of course.

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Are the amazon ac delco parts real Brembo's or are they something else?

In other words if I bought a stock CTS-V, would this be the same caliper?
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Old 04-14-2014, 04:55 PM   #168
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Rotors from Brake Performance arrived today. I'll post in this thread again once I get them installed or if there are any issues that come up.
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Old 04-14-2014, 05:51 PM   #169
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Are the amazon ac delco parts real Brembo's or are they something else?

In other words if I bought a stock CTS-V, would this be the same caliper?
Yea oem parts.





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Rotors from Brake Performance arrived today. I'll post in this thread again once I get them installed or if there are any issues that come up.
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Old 04-14-2014, 09:57 PM   #170
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Rotors from Brake Performance arrived today. I'll post in this thread again once I get them installed or if there are any issues that come up.
How much were they? Tried looking them up but their site says not available.
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Old 04-15-2014, 07:58 AM   #171
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Those are one piece? I'm trying to find a two piece for the rear that would match the AC Delco two piece listed on the first page. Racing Brake has them but their $1300 a pair and are slotted. DBAs don't look like two piece. If I could find all four for the prices listed on Amazon that'd be great. Point of this thread is to save money yet gain performance right?
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:14 AM   #172
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How much were they? Tried looking them up but their site says not available.
$281 for the front CTS-V rotors RB-62128 (pair)
$201 for the rear SS rotors RB-62119 (pair)

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Those are one piece? I'm trying to find a two piece for the rear that would match the AC Delco two piece listed on the first page. Racing Brake has them but their $1300 a pair and are slotted. DBAs don't look like two piece. If I could find all four for the prices listed on Amazon that'd be great. Point of this thread is to save money yet gain performance right?
Yeah they're one piece. I searched high and low for any drilled/slotted/dimpled/ect rotors that would fit our setup and pretty much no one makes them. Thats why I had to pair the CTS-V front rotors with SS rear rotors. I found one other company and their warranty sucked. I'm pretty certain that if you want two piece, you're stuck with Racing Brake or the AlDelco ones.

For the Brake Performance rotors, the fronts weigh 25.35 lbs, and the rears weigh 24.05 lbs.
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Old 04-16-2014, 06:48 AM   #173
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Common Racer VS. Engineer debate......E: "On paper it should do X" R: "But on the track it is doing this" I am a driver first with an engineering backround that works in sales Many years ago I stopped worrying about the how/why and focused on the what if felt like on track.....A real driver can tell when something works and when it doesn't. Lap times are the only confirmation I need.

I am not doing this for 60-0 or 100-0 one hit wonders. I want larger area for heat dissipation, improved cooling and large swept area. I am doing this for repeatability on track for 20+ minutes session. I need the sames results on the 3 lap and the 15th lap.



I do not know the delta in length as I don't have my lines yet. I can measure when received and report back.



Great, thanks for posting....

Yes the 2 piece rotor is heavy than the dual cast....But the way the dual cast is made it allows cool air to escape from the openings if brake ducts are used, the veins are not directional and sections of the veins are blocked by design. 2 piece is better for the track.

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I too have an engineering background and experience will only take you so far as to gauge "how better". I guess its just my six sigma black belt experience also, theres always a way to measure if better or not with use of multiple samples. I have proven to experienced engineers/operators time and time again that sometimes their changes were insignificant or not able to get ROI on changes made. Only difficulty for cars is trying to replicate test with all variables remaining constant. I should have done a design of experiments on this while taking the black belt certification lol. I will keep an eye out on further post, always loved 6 piston ctsv's I just never thought it would be this cheap for the upgrade! I'll aim for November or December for this upgrade.
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Old 04-17-2014, 04:35 PM   #174
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When you get those bolts can you measure the length of them?
Just got the bolts.

They are 2 3/4" long with a stem length of 2 1/4". They do fit the CTS/V calipers and are coated with some locking substance on about 1 inch from the ends.

These are the last piece of my brake upgrade puzzle. Once my car comes back from the shop I need to solve my hood vent drainage problem. Next comes the brakes.
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Old 04-17-2014, 05:29 PM   #175
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Just got the bolts.

They ... are coated with some locking substance on about 1 inch from the ends.
It's Loctite
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