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Old 04-29-2014, 02:09 AM   #201
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Just got the calipers in from brakenetic.
Cts-V front and SS rears

Can I use the same mounting bolts or do I need new ones? If so, can I have the part numbers please.
torque to yield, throw the old ones away
1. Caliper Bolts (FRONT) - GM P/N 11570788 M14 x 2.0 x 56.5
2. Caliper Bolts (REAR) - GM P/N 11515781 M12 x 1.75 x 60

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Old 04-29-2014, 02:14 AM   #202
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torque to yield, throw the old ones away
1. Caliper Bolts (FRONT) - GM P/N 11570788 M14 x 2.0 x 56.5
2. Caliper Bolts (REAR) - GM P/N 11515781 M12 x 1.75 x 60

you need 4ea
Thanks alot, I appreciate it.

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Old 04-29-2014, 06:26 PM   #203
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ho is absolutely correct as to the bolts being designed as "one time use". I did read (a post from Pedders) that the race teams would re-use the bolts if new ones weren't at hand when needed. He give a torque of 166 ft-lbs as what they used. I re-used the bolts since I will be installing the Quantum brake cooling backing plates within 2 weeks and didn't want to waste new ones for a limited time use. In my case this is not a DD car and I won't put many miles on the old bolts so I felt it was worth the risk. That said, the bolts look like standard bolts and not the necked down versions usually associated with "torque to yield" joints.
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Old 04-29-2014, 07:01 PM   #204
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ho is absolutely correct as to the bolts being designed as "one time use". I did read (a post from Pedders) that the race teams would re-use the bolts if new ones weren't at hand when needed. He give a torque of 166 ft-lbs as what they used. I re-used the bolts since I will be installing the Quantum brake cooling backing plates within 2 weeks and didn't want to waste new ones for a limited time use. In my case this is not a DD car and I won't put many miles on the old bolts so I felt it was worth the risk. That said, the bolts look like standard bolts and not the necked down versions usually associated with "torque to yield" joints.
Ok thanks for the confirmation and the information, I ordered the bolts this morning.

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Old 04-30-2014, 10:25 PM   #205
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Calipers, rotors, Hawk ceramics, and stainless lines installed!
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Old 04-30-2014, 10:29 PM   #206
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Calipers, rotors, Hawk ceramics, and stainless lines installed!
It looks great!!!!!! I thought the bleeder screws where supposed to be on top? Have you heard that?

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Old 04-30-2014, 10:35 PM   #207
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It looks great!!!!!! I thought the bleeder screws where supposed to be on top? Have you heard that?

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After googling I see on both the ZL1 and CTS-V they are in fact on top. Might have accidentally put them on the wrong sides lol.
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yep, no way to get the air out of the system...
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Old 04-30-2014, 10:38 PM   #209
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The stickers wont be affected, no biggy.

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Old 04-30-2014, 10:40 PM   #210
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Luckily they havent been bled yet
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Old 04-30-2014, 10:48 PM   #211
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Luckily they havent been bled yet
That's why where here to help each other. Gotta love Camaro5

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Old 04-30-2014, 11:35 PM   #212
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After googling I see on both the ZL1 and CTS-V they are in fact on top. Might have accidentally put them on the wrong sides lol.
Ya time to swap the around man ha ha no biggie.
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This is really a great price... Couple questions to the guys that did this already.

Any other modifications to the car necessary?
Is their any reasons to change the rear brakes on an SS? I read through the whole thread and it sounds like there is no reason... Am I correct?
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Old 05-04-2014, 12:00 AM   #214
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This is really a great price... Couple questions to the guys that did this already.

Any other modifications to the car necessary?
Is their any reasons to change the rear brakes on an SS? I read through the whole thread and it sounds like there is no reason... Am I correct?
You are correct, no reason to change the rear brakes. Just be sure to get ZL1 front brake lines stainless or stock.
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Old 05-04-2014, 08:58 AM   #215
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This is really a great price... Couple questions to the guys that did this already.

Any other modifications to the car necessary?
Is their any reasons to change the rear brakes on an SS? I read through the whole thread and it sounds like there is no reason... Am I correct?
Rear ZL1 & SS brakes are the same they just have different paint jobs.

I bought a full set of CTS-V calipers just so I could have them painted w/o taking my car out of commission. I bought a full set of rotors for the same reason.

That is the only reason I can think of to do anything more than just the front.

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just ordered my CTSV calipers, once they get in will have to have powdercoated, rears powdercoated to match, then lines and rotors, ect... Still be a while before they are on the car...
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just ordered my CTSV calipers, once they get in will have to have powdercoated, rears powdercoated to match, then lines and rotors, ect... Still be a while before they are on the car...
Sweet, I'll be putting mine on soon. Just waiting on the brake lines and new bolts.

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Alright here's how it looks with everything finished up.
Looking good bro!!!

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Old 05-10-2014, 07:27 AM   #220
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Alright here's how it looks with everything finished up.
That blue looks really nice.
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Old 05-10-2014, 11:20 AM   #221
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Wow thats sick
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SO are these CTV brakes that much better than the Brembos?
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SO are these CTV brakes that much better than the Brembos?
You have to define better…

1st off, they're both Brembo calipers (factory SS & CTS-V).

For the vast majority of people getting these, the simple answer is no.

For whatever reason, people like to fix things that aren't broken. The advantage of the 6-piston caliper and the larger pads is how they take heat, or extend the time before the brakes start to fade under continuous heavy braking. If you aren't getting brake fade, or glazing pads, you won't notice any real performance gain.

The brakes will definitely feel different as most people change pad compounds, fluid, and go to braided lines at the same time, but a change in feel doesn't equal an increase in performance.


Personally, I'm not a fan of the CTS-V front calipers and just went back to the OEM 4-pots and am REALLY glad I did…

I never liked the feel of the 6-piston calipers, had issues with the ABS, AND I cooked the seals which I never did with the 4-pots. I think part of that is due to the CTS-V calipers not releasing well, which may explain some of the heat issues guys have had with them on the track. They're also a fair amount heavier (pads & rotors. the calipers are actually similar in weight)…

Keep in mind before the ZL-1, the race cars had to run a 4-pot caliper, and they didn't have issues. I think most teams used AP or similar calipers, but they were still a 4-pot caliper.


If you're not overheating the 4-pots and expect to see shorter stopping distances on the street, personally, I think your wasting your money. If you're buying them because you think they look cool, well, there's nothing wrong with that…
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Ok, thx for the explaination.

I just cooked my V6 OEM brakes at the track on the California Speedway in Fontana last weekend so I'm putting these on next week. (+ SS lines & Hawk HPS pads)

Just didn't know if these CTV brakes were a better track performance set up.
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What do you mean by cooked? Did you get them to fade? Glaze the pads? Both?

For the track you'll need a high performance brake fluid like RBF 600, and you'll need a pad rated for the kind of temps you're getting at the track (I don't think the HPS pads are enough). You should probably look at ducting the fronts as well…

I wouldn't go to the 6-pots unless all the above still wasn't enough…


BTW, I've got a set of CTS-V calipers that I'll let go for $200.00 if someone in So Cal wants to pick them up...
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