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Old 07-29-2009, 10:37 PM   #1
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DIY : Radar Detector Hardwire Install

The following install outlines how I hardwired my passport into a power source located in the headliner that is only on when the ignition is on....I did this in my M3 and my wifes 530...and had to do it in my Camaro...I just wish one of you guys had done it first so I had a guide!!!!

***Note...this DOES NOT include a remote control module for the mute...I don't need it as the escort has auto mute.

The picture quality sucks because it was my blackberry, but beggars can't be choosers!

First step is to gain access to the interior of the headliner. Patience is key here as these parts were made to be installed easy...not taken apart easy. All of this can be done without gorilla force...keep that in mind....

First...the tools you'll need:
1. Wire stripers
2. Small flat head screwdriver...I call them 'tweakers'
3. Pliers
4. Regular Phillips head screwdriver

And some 'parts' you'll need (all can be found at Radio Shack):

1. Black phone cord (I used one left over from sat tv install, the cable is round as opposed to flat and that worked out for me)
2. Wire taps (see picture)

Phone cord (notice only TWO wires..red and green...that's all you need)


Wire taps (these worked EXTREMELY well):


Ready...here we go!

First step is to remove the lens from the overhead lights. I started on the right side with a little tweak...then on the left...the towards the middle/front...then back....







Next is the little silver reflector...same process...DON'T MUSCLE IT...be patient...


This next part is the hardest part...the mother of all evils. The white part has to come out and there's two pressure clips holding it in and the clips are towards the front of the car. It would work best if you had two tweakers and a partner lend an extra hand...each of you pushing in one clip. The clips are toward the front of the car and you can depress them by sliding your tweaker in the hole. Look at these pictures...study the part...then reread what I just wrote. This can be a pain to remove...be patient and don't tear up your headliner.





The next part requires your phillips head...remove the two screws you see here...




With the screws out, the entire bezel is ready to come out. This piece is held in place with four clips. This does require some targeted pressure to remove...don't tug on the edges...reach inside the 'hole' you made by removing the light and feel where the clips are and you'll be fine. Pull all four clips out and the piece comes out with wires attached. The pics below will show you what the clips look like and where they are.






Unplug the harness from homelink(if you have it), unplug the onstar mic, and unplug the airbag light.

The only wire that carried constant voltage when the ignition was on, and dropped voltage when the ignition was off was one of the wires for the airbag/seatbelt indicators...so this is the wire I tapped into. I removed some of the wire fabric tape so that I could tap into the pink wire for the power and the black wire for ground.




A picture of the tap...


Tapping in..


All tapped in...


Prepping the phone cord...cut off one end and strip the two wires. Attach the connectors for the taps.


Now PLUG EM IN!
Remember RED GOES TO PINK and GREEN GOES TO BLACK.


Push the plug through the front of the headliner...and funny enough there's a spot that looks like it was made for the cord...fits perfectly. No force here...just gently work it through.


TEST YOUR RADAR DETECTOR BEFORE YOU BUTTON EVERYTHING BACK UP
Now...reverse all the take apart procedures. You'll find it goes together a heck of allot easier than it comes apart.

The following photos aren't great...but they show the finished product.





Gratuitous engine shot...

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Old 07-29-2009, 10:54 PM   #2
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Old 07-29-2009, 11:11 PM   #3
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Well written instl! Great step by step pics too. I don't know a monkey wrench from a trunk monkey, but I think I could follow this...

By the way, how do you like that LMR CAI? I'm leaning towards it too.
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Old 07-29-2009, 11:12 PM   #4
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Old 07-30-2009, 12:58 AM   #5
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Dude.....

That was a good write up, but a ton of work.

Don't take this the wrong way......

I put my detector in the exact same place as you, except I just tucked the cord into the edge of the headliner, put in inside the drivers side pilliar, and into the fusebox on the drivers side of the dash. Total time was less than 5 minutes, and needs no tools......

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Old 07-30-2009, 08:38 AM   #6
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Dude.....

That was a good write up, but a ton of work.

Don't take this the wrong way......

I put my detector in the exact same place as you, except I just tucked the cord into the edge of the headliner, put in inside the drivers side pilliar, and into the fusebox on the drivers side of the dash. Total time was less than 5 minutes, and needs no tools......
Wasn't a 'ton' of work. Once I figured out how the pieces came apart, the whole job(with the instructions I gave) could be completed in 10-15 minutes.

Personally I prefer a 'clean' installation as opposed to just 'tucking' wires in...but that's me...

I encourage you to share how you tapped into the fuse box...I'm sure others would be interested.
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Old 07-30-2009, 12:31 PM   #7
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I encourage you to share how you tapped into the fuse box...I'm sure others would be interested.
Sure.

The fuse box on this car is super easy to get to.

- Open the drivers door.

- Look at the dash. The panel that faces the door when you open it pops right off, the fusebox is inside.

- Grab the bottom of the panel and pull. Three clips hold the cover, and the cover pops right off. The inside of the cover has a chart of all of the fuses. The two accessory ones are right in the middle.

- There are 5 spots labeled as spare locations in the fusebox. I checked them with a multi-meter. Unfortunately, 2 of them are not live at all. The other 3 are on all the time, which is not ideal for a radar detector. So, the spare locations will not work. You want the detector to come on when the car is on, and go off when the ignition is off so it won't drain the battery.

I had a couple of piggyback fuses in my garage, so I installed one of them into the existing accessory fuse slot for the hot wire. (One of the two in the middle) You can get them at autozone or at radioshack for about $3.

The fuse box has a upper and lower screw on the outside of the box that are both grounded. My radar detector a had loop already installed on the ground wire, so I just unscrewed the top existing screw, put the loop on it, and screwed in back in.

I will post some pics, but it was dark in my garage, so they aren't very clear. If you guys want, I can go and take some more.

(This is an easy install. Seriously..... It just took me longer to post this than to do the work...)



BTW-

2 Interesting things. The dash ABL connector is right above the fusebox behind the panel. It is ready to go, just not plugged in. I had my multimeter out, and verified that the connector works with the ABL dimmer switch. (Where are our vendors with aftermarket kits for the dash lighting. It should be plug and play!!)

When you open the cover to the fusebox, the Onstar fuse is there. There was some question about how to disable it. I didn't try it out, but I believe this would be the place.

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Old 07-30-2009, 01:03 PM   #9
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:29 PM   #11
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I really wish we could get a vendor to make a radar bracket specific to the Camaro! I hate the suction cups on the window. I really prefer a bracket that puts the detector a couple of inches back from the window. It makes it more incognito..... and less of a chance of someone spotting it and stealing it.

These work great in the C5 and C6 Vettes....

WE NEED A VENDOR TO MAKE ONE FOR THE CAMARO!

http://www.vettemods.com/radarbracket-c6.htm







I've tried contacting these guys via email and phone, but never heard anything back.
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I really wish we could get a vendor to make a radar bracket specific to the Camaro! I hate the suction cups on the window. I really prefer a bracket that puts the detector a couple of inches back from the window. It makes it more incognito..... and less of a chance of someone spotting it and stealing it.

These work great in the C5 and C6 Vettes....

WE NEED A VENDOR TO MAKE ONE FOR THE CAMARO!

http://www.vettemods.com/radarbracket-c6.htm







I've tried contacting these guys via email and phone, but never heard anything back.
you and I think alike! I've been looking for something similar and really like this idea. The suction cups still allow the radar detector to 'bounce'. I've looked at other solutions that mount on the rearview mirror..but we don't have the 'visibility' real estate to give up there....

I might order one of the corvette brackets and see if it works...
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you and I think alike! I've been looking for something similar and really like this idea. The suction cups still allow the radar detector to 'bounce'. I've looked at other solutions that mount on the rearview mirror..but we don't have the 'visibility' real estate to give up there....

I might order one of the corvette brackets and see if it works...
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themossman - just curious, dont you find it hard to read the display of the detector over there? I ask because I have the same detector, and the same car ;-), and I actually had it there and moved it to the driver's side for better visibility and easier access to the buttons.
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themossman - just curious, dont you find it hard to read the display of the detector over there? I ask because I have the same detector, and the same car ;-), and I actually had it there and moved it to the driver's side for better visibility and easier access to the buttons.
no...I have the detector configured where there's only a single 'dot' (.) on the screen. That way, if a detection occurs, its a pretty decent change and catches the corner of your eye. Before I changed to the dot, it was not as 'obvious'.
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Sure.

The fuse box on this car is super easy to get to.

- Open the drivers door.

- Look at the dash. The panel that faces the door when you open it pops right off, the fusebox is inside.

- Grab the bottom of the panel and pull. Three clips hold the cover, and the cover pops right off. The inside of the cover has a chart of all of the fuses. The two accessory ones are right in the middle.

- There are 5 spots labeled as spare locations in the fusebox. I checked them with a multi-meter. Unfortunately, 2 of them are not live at all. The other 3 are on all the time, which is not ideal for a radar detector. So, the spare locations will not work. You want the detector to come on when the car is on, and go off when the ignition is off so it won't drain the battery.

I had a couple of piggyback fuses in my garage, so I installed one of them into the existing accessory fuse slot for the hot wire. (One of the two in the middle) You can get them at autozone or at radioshack for about $3.

The fuse box has a upper and lower screw on the outside of the box that are both grounded. My radar detector a had loop already installed on the ground wire, so I just unscrewed the top existing screw, put the loop on it, and screwed in back in.

I will post some pics, but it was dark in my garage, so they aren't very clear. If you guys want, I can go and take some more.

(This is an easy install. Seriously..... It just took me longer to post this than to do the work...)



BTW-

2 Interesting things. The dash ABL connector is right above the fusebox behind the panel. It is ready to go, just not plugged in. I had my multimeter out, and verified that the connector works with the ABL dimmer switch. (Where are our vendors with aftermarket kits for the dash lighting. It should be plug and play!!)

When you open the cover to the fusebox, the Onstar fuse is there. There was some question about how to disable it. I didn't try it out, but I believe this would be the place.
Wow sounds EZ I'm buying a Passport 9500ix today I'm going to try this THANKS
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Do you happen know where the fuse to those wires is? For some reason I'm not getting any power to those wires...
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Wow sounds EZ I'm buying a Passport 9500ix today I'm going to try this THANKS
F this I been trying to get this thing to work for the last two hours the dame radar wont get any power
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F this I been trying to get this thing to work for the last two hours the dame radar wont get any power
hm, your using the wires that he posted in the pics? ... I'm having the same problem.. no power.
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F this I been trying to get this thing to work for the last two hours the dame radar wont get any power
Don't forget to turn the ignition on..that wire is only hot when the ignition is on.

PM me if you run into issue and I'll send my #.
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Old 08-23-2009, 02:39 PM   #22
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I'm choosing the BlendMount option for my Valentine One and they make them for other radar detectors. Here's what the mount looks like. I'll probably take it somewhere to have them wire it to my mirror wiring kit. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Blend...ltDomainQ5f100
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themossman - just curious, dont you find it hard to read the display of the detector over there? I ask because I have the same detector, and the same car ;-), and I actually had it there and moved it to the driver's side for better visibility and easier access to the buttons.
I am going to change my set up so that it is just a dot like Thermossman did so it is easier to see on the right side but I also bought the "Direct Wire SmartCord" for $29 at Best Buy which is a hard wire kit that has a remote light and mute button. I went with Aaron1121's hard wiring method and it worked out perfect because I mounted the remote display right behind the door window defrost vent so almost no wires are exposed. This way it won't matter if you are looking one way or the other there is a light that catches your eye. I installed the Escort 9500ix which I have also been really happy with. I also bought the mounting bracket that is referenced in post #15 above for $25 and it works great - don't have to worry about the suction cups failing anymore.
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