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Old 09-01-2009, 02:59 AM   #26
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My vote is for the Valentine One. Unless you want to spend the really big bucks. You can find them on eBay. I'm sure you will get many different answers with that question though.

Here I decided at the last minute to buy an Escort 9500ix. Oddly, the main reason was that I prefer the blue display over the Valentine One red display. Also, the Escort has learning technology for false alerts. Not sure if the range will be as good, but I'm locked in with the Escort now.
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Old 09-01-2009, 07:27 AM   #27
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Both of you have great solutions, nice work and great instructions!
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Old 09-01-2009, 08:43 AM   #28
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Here is another solution I did and its a bit easier then both of the above. I took off the plastic cover covering the wires tothe mirror. Pop the mirror off and hook the wire into the power source for the Onstar. It was very simple and took me about 15 minutes to do. I did it a while ago so I cant remember which wires were switched and which werent but its only a few minutes of trial and error.
PM me if you need any help or have any questions.
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Old 09-01-2009, 11:11 AM   #29
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Great step by step. Thanks for the awsome info.
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:02 PM   #30
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very niceee!
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Old 09-01-2009, 04:23 PM   #31
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Nice tutorial.

I couldn't help myself. Went and picked up an Escort 9500ix today. Gonna get 'er all wired in this weekend.
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Old 09-01-2009, 07:13 PM   #32
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:20 AM   #33
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Can the police detect these? Great job btw. I live in Canada and really want to do this but i heard that they can detect these. Is this true?
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Old 09-03-2009, 04:55 PM   #34
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Radar detector Hard wire

My neighbor who installs car stereos and alarms for a living says it is a absolute no no to tap power from any air bag wiring. Opted for hard wire from fuse box up the pillar and across under head liner. way easier and safer.
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Old 09-03-2009, 06:49 PM   #35
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Can the police detect these? Great job btw. I live in Canada and really want to do this but i heard that they can detect these. Is this true?
Yes, police can detect that you have a radar detector. Just make sure it is legal to use in your area.
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Old 09-03-2009, 06:57 PM   #36
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My neighbor who installs car stereos and alarms for a living says it is a absolute no no to tap power from any air bag wiring. Opted for hard wire from fuse box up the pillar and across under head liner. way easier and safer.
+1 Gonna use a blade tap on the F17 fuse in the fuse box. Hopefully, sharing that fuse for the detector and the center console power doesn't blow it with both in use or I'll be researching another way to wire it in the fuse box.

I got this from DLS in another thread so I hope it works...
Yes, I put a piggyback fuse in the F17 spot which is the fuse that is for the power outlet in the center console.
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Old 09-04-2009, 04:38 PM   #37
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My neighbor who installs car stereos and alarms for a living says it is a absolute no no to tap power from any air bag wiring. Opted for hard wire from fuse box up the pillar and across under head liner. way easier and safer.
I totally agree with you but this install doesnt tap into the airbag power supply, it is simply tapping into the light that indicates the airbag status. I havent checked the camaro yet, but i have never seen a car that has the airbags sharing power / circuit with anything, not even the indicator light.

Would like to confim that the Camaro is the same and that the power for the status light is isolated from the airbag circuitry itself. Anybody know for sure?
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My neighbor who installs car stereos and alarms for a living says it is a absolute no no to tap power from any air bag wiring. Opted for hard wire from fuse box up the pillar and across under head liner. way easier and safer.
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I totally agree with you but this install doesnt tap into the airbag power supply, it is simply tapping into the light that indicates the airbag status. I havent checked the camaro yet, but i have never seen a car that has the airbags sharing power / circuit with anything, not even the indicator light.

Would like to confim that the Camaro is the same and that the power for the status light is isolated from the airbag circuitry itself. Anybody know for sure?
Spot on...

I would NEVER tap into an airbag power source...this is simply the power source for an indicator light. Keep in mind it's constant power too (with ignition on), so the ground for each indicator is the only thing that would tie back to the airbag system...not the 12V. And I tied back to the common ground...not the indicator grounds.
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Hey guys like I said, you can tap into the Onstar power right in the rear view mirror. I bought a "stealth" plug on ebay for my 8500 and it just plugs right into the rear view mirror Onstar power. Took me about 15-20 minutes to install. Very easy!
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Old 09-08-2009, 07:22 PM   #40
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Hey guys like I said, you can tap into the Onstar power right in the rear view mirror. I bought a "stealth" plug on ebay for my 8500 and it just plugs right into the rear view mirror Onstar power. Took me about 15-20 minutes to install. Very easy!
Please let me know after a couple weeks of use if it is problem free. I have bought a wiring kit with a blade tap and a mute button to mount, but would rather save the trailing of wires if at all possible.
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I've had it on since I got the car in June and havent had any problems at all. Works great. You just have to play around with the different wires to figure out which one is a switched one ! Doesnt take long at all!
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:01 PM   #42
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I've had it on since I got the car in June and havent had any problems at all. Works great. You just have to play around with the different wires to figure out which one is a switched one ! Doesnt take long at all!
Didn't you have to ground a wire too? And it would be nice to know which wire without tapping on all of them and having to electrical tape the punctures just to find the right one. Forgive me because I'm an analyst.
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Didn't you have to ground a wire too? And it would be nice to know which wire without tapping on all of them and having to electrical tape the punctures just to find the right one. Forgive me because I'm an analyst.
ahem...I showed you which wires...I've had it working flawlessly since install.
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Old 09-09-2009, 09:37 AM   #44
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ahem...I showed you which wires...I've had it working flawlessly since install.
I don't have my car yet. I'll definitely go back and check out your past info before my install!
Looking back now, it looks like the pink and black wires are being tapped into.
I was really refering to the Onstar wires connected to the mirror though. Would be much easier to do that than dismantling the light fixture. Hopefully, once I get the cover off of the mirror/Onstar wires, I'll be able to figure it out. That's what I was saying it would be nice to know exactly which wires. If I see pink and black, I'll know, but if they are different, I'll have to put my non-electrician skills to work.
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I didnt have to untape anything. I just tried putting the wires into the BACKSIDE of the connecter. It was trial and error but it only took a few minutes to find a ground and a switched connector!
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I didnt have to untape anything. I just tried putting the wires into the BACKSIDE of the connecter. It was trial and error but it only took a few minutes to find a ground and a switched connector!
I think it might make it a little easier once I actually get my car and can work on it.
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Does this also apply to the passport 8500 or just the 9500.
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Does this also apply to the passport 8500 or just the 9500.
The connections discussed should work for any radar detector! As long as you tap into the appropriate wires to get it working.
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:44 PM   #49
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Yes, police can detect that you have a radar detector. Just make sure it is legal to use in your area.
The Beltronics STi Driver is NON-detectable to VG-2, current (and future, according to Bel) Spectre radar detector-detectors. It is the only invisible detector right now on the market.

Keep in mind, if you don't live or travel in VA, DC or Canada, then you shouldn't need the STi. Otherwise I would have gotten a 9500ix.
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Intresting post and it could just be my detector but I could not hard wire mine in, it will not work without the cig lighter plug.

I was trying to make it easily swapable from the car to my motorcycle.

But it will not work wired directly in the system, I had to install a cig lighter socket on the bike so it would work.

Kinda sucked after cutting it up.
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