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Old 09-15-2009, 03:25 AM   #51
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The Beltronics STi Driver is NON-detectable to VG-2, current (and future, according to Bel) Spectre radar detector-detectors. It is the only invisible detector right now on the market.

Keep in mind, if you don't live or travel in VA, DC or Canada, then you shouldn't need the STi. Otherwise I would have gotten a 9500ix.
Very true! I was stuck on that detector, but read that if you didn't live in those areas, you didn't need it. Good post!

I probably wouldn't use one in those areas though because I can imagine the fine is steep IF caught with one. Not trying to sound like a prude here, but I can see myself keeping the lights turned off on it at night and then not being able to crank my music so that I can hear it beeping. But hey, I guess you don't always have to use it, but when you are in a hurry or feel like you need to speed, cut the music down at night and listen out for that STI. I just wouldn't want any lights to be reflecting anywhere at night if it's illegal is the main thing.
The STI would be great in those areas during the day!
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Old 09-15-2009, 03:35 AM   #52
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Intresting post and it could just be my detector but I could not hard wire mine in, it will not work without the cig lighter plug.

I was trying to make it easily swapable from the car to my motorcycle.

But it will not work wired directly in the system, I had to install a cig lighter socket on the bike so it would work.

Kinda sucked after cutting it up.
Which radar detector are you using? Might help for others to steer clear from buying it for this car.
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Probably no chance in that, its and old whistler 925 laser super ka
but for my area NW Ohio it works great. I pick them up well ahead of time.

As only state boys run laser, the local cities all only have 1 laser car [cost to much to equip them all] for highway use only. All the rest still run the old xa/ka what ever stuff.

In my town of Oregon the cops run their radar 24/7 if on patrol so I will pick them up a mile+ away, more like a proximity detector

Though always wondered about the GPS, all cop cars run a GPS that could be tracked if you knew their signals. That would be a real cop avoider. Could watch ever move they make and counter it.

Though the eye in the sky can never be ditched.
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:55 PM   #54
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Probably no chance in that, its and old whistler 925 laser super ka
but for my area NW Ohio it works great. I pick them up well ahead of time.

As only state boys run laser, the local cities all only have 1 laser car [cost to much to equip them all] for highway use only. All the rest still run the old xa/ka what ever stuff.

In my town of Oregon the cops run their radar 24/7 if on patrol so I will pick them up a mile+ away, more like a proximity detector

Though always wondered about the GPS, all cop cars run a GPS that could be tracked if you knew their signals. That would be a real cop avoider. Could watch ever move they make and counter it.

Though the eye in the sky can never be ditched.
Thanks for sharing. If it works for you, that's all that matters!
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Old 09-15-2009, 02:53 PM   #55
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Very true! I was stuck on that detector, but read that if you didn't live in those areas, you didn't need it. Good post!

I probably wouldn't use one in those areas though because I can imagine the fine is steep IF caught with one. Not trying to sound like a prude here, but I can see myself keeping the lights turned off on it at night and then not being able to crank my music so that I can hear it beeping. But hey, I guess you don't always have to use it, but when you are in a hurry or feel like you need to speed, cut the music down at night and listen out for that STI. I just wouldn't want any lights to be reflecting anywhere at night if it's illegal is the main thing.
The STI would be great in those areas during the day!
the STi can be dimmed to just a single dot that flashes and/or its remote hard wire has an alert LED as well that you can place below the dash if you wish; the detector would be dark and you'd get just the alert flash in the corner of your eye. They really put some thought into this.
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About the states that ban them. I have seen post on other sites of folks having to fight a radar ticket as the car has front radar for distance control.

I guess they always assume yes that car has it, but you could of had a hidden detecor so ony if you fight it does it go away. Hoping you just pay.
Like the illegal speed camera tickets, they hope you just pay. Why if you don't you never have a warrent out for your arrest, just a collection agency bugging ya.
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:43 PM   #57
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Here is how I installed my Valentine 1 with some closer pics.

I used a Fuse Tap from Radioshack but had to trim and shape it a little to fit easier into the fuse slot. This thin piece of metal is easily shaped and clipped to fit. It looks like this:



The end of the fuse tap easily connects to a wire via a quick connect terminal shown here:



I started by connecting the ground wire to the frame and putting the velcro strip for the V1 connector on. Ground wire location and velcro location shown here:



This is what the V1 power outlet looks like (Red wire for + black for -. I've also got it connected here):



Once the shaping of the fuse tap was done and the ground wire connected, I put the fuse in the fuse tap and then put them both in the F17 slot which if you read previously controls the console. Shown here:



A couple of minutes later (zip ties and clean up) I came out looking like this:




This method tucks the wire neatly under the head liner and runs the cord down to the fuse box. And thats it! Now my detector only comes on with the key.

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Old 09-16-2009, 12:30 AM   #58
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the STi can be dimmed to just a single dot that flashes and/or its remote hard wire has an alert LED as well that you can place below the dash if you wish; the detector would be dark and you'd get just the alert flash in the corner of your eye. They really put some thought into this.
Sounds sweet! I would have gotten it had I lived in one of those states!
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:34 AM   #59
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Macamaro - Excellent information on the fusetap. I have a wiring kit I bought off eBay with a wired mute button to mount and a fusetap. I haven't decided if I will go this route or to the Onstar wires in the mirror. Really depends if I want to have the mute button handy down to the left side of the shifter or not.
Great information you guys are providing! It's nice to have options and advanced info!
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Oops forgot to enable pic uploading... you guys should be able to see the rest of the pictures now... sorry bout that
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Old 09-17-2009, 01:08 PM   #61
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Anyone have any good shots of doing a rearview mirror based install? I've been pondering the idea of trying this out instead of running a wire all the way down to the fuse box. I'm not too keen on wiring it into overhead console's air bag wiring.
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Old 09-17-2009, 01:33 PM   #62
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Anyone have any good shots of doing a rearview mirror based install? I've been pondering the idea of trying this out instead of running a wire all the way down to the fuse box. I'm not too keen on wiring it into overhead console's air bag wiring.
it's not the airbag wiring...it's an indicator light...you'll notice it's also the seatbelt light...so if it makes you feel better, that's the power that I tapped into.
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:57 PM   #63
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Install radar detector

Great instructions and detail. the best instruction you gave was "Be Patient !" I did not break anything. It works great. Thanks again!!
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:38 PM   #64
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Dude.....

That was a good write up, but a ton of work.

Don't take this the wrong way......

I put my detector in the exact same place as you, except I just tucked the cord into the edge of the headliner, put in inside the drivers side pilliar, and into the fusebox on the drivers side of the dash. Total time was less than 5 minutes, and needs no tools......
What fuse did you use?

Found Fuse... Thanks
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Old 09-20-2009, 02:50 PM   #65
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Headliner / Fuse Box Radar Wiring Approach


I also went with the cross the headliner to fuse panel approach. Just a note of caution to who ever uses this approach. I noticed a lot of mini-fuse piggy-backs that were just rated at 10A, the fuse you will be using for that slot is 20Amp, make sure the piggy-back is rated 20A or better.

I did not post pictures of the headliner, there is nothing to see, the wire easily slips under it, then as noted by the originator of this approach, you pull off the side molding or just open it enough to run the wire down.

Here is the fuse cover back on / before taking off:



Start from the bottom, near the front of the car to pull off the cover, then work up towards the back of the car and follow the panel up, popping the clipps as you go. When you get to the top, the clip is in the middle at the top between front and back, work your hand in so you can get fingers on either side of the post and pry gently, it will pop out.

Fuse Box Exposed



Some Notes:
- The tall white fuse holder, that came with the detector wiring and should be kept. I zip tied the top part of the case to a spot that holds it secure but lets me removed the bottom barrel to replace the fuse.

- I put a piece of 1/4" x 1/2" single sided sticky foam behing the fuse barrel to prevent a future rattle.

- While the Radar Detector takes very little current it still should be wired to the "device side" of the fuse (the side that does not have 12V unless the fuse is in) this makes sure your piggy-back is running through the existing fuse (20A) which make sure you don't overload the actual wire. It is likely nothing to worry about for this, but good rule of thump when tapping a fuse.

- I grounded to the same black screw the other guy did, it easy enough to see. I did sand the area around the screw hole a little

- Finally I routed the wire through the fuse area to ensure all wires were secure.

Radar Detector Mounted



I like it right under the mirror, if you mount them too high you may find a blind spot from the back, but it does look a little better from the outside mounted higher.
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I think I will forget defacing my car andjust have the wire hanging lol. I can figure something out...
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Old 10-11-2009, 07:42 PM   #67
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I think I will forget defacing my car andjust have the wire hanging lol. I can figure something out...
how about an invisacord? no defacing of car needed.
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how about an invisacord? no defacing of car needed.
can you give me a link? Just go to my page and post a comment on my page witht he link plz!
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I think I will forget defacing my car andjust have the wire hanging lol. I can figure something out...
LOL....'defacing' the car? A wire tap doesn't qualify as defacing anything...it's not even 'risky'.
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LOL....'defacing' the car? A wire tap doesn't qualify as defacing anything...it's not even 'risky'.
When youre me and you are fidling with stuff like that, it will end up being defaced!!!! hahah
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When youre me and you are fidling with stuff like that, it will end up being defaced!!!! hahah
No worries...that's why I was very cautious about being patient. Get a friend to help...it's really pretty easy.
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Old 10-13-2009, 06:43 PM   #72
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Great Job

Thank you for having all the legwork done for me. Did it in under an hour w/ your excellent pics. Really can't thank you enough. I started to try and figure where I'd direct wire it in myself. Got real confused and then GOOGLED it. Thank you again,
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can you give me a link? Just go to my page and post a comment on my page witht he link plz!
it's invisacord.com

here's the link to the one you want...(use the dropdown menu to select the size...12" is what I ordered).

http://invisicord.com/osc2/catalog/p...328a388f9565ef

I posted install instructions somewhere in one of these threads.
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Anyone suggest a cheap, but very effective detector? I already checked local laws and I can get one, just wondering what to get. Certainly looking at mounting it like in the pics. Also, that is just the light for the airbags. Check the fuses that correspond with that wiring schematic, airbag fuses are quite hefty, that fuses should be no more then a 30A.
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Hey guys like I said, you can tap into the Onstar power right in the rear view mirror. I bought a "stealth" plug on ebay for my 8500 and it just plugs right into the rear view mirror Onstar power. Took me about 15-20 minutes to install. Very easy!
I also decided to go this route. Too easy with instructions included!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ESCORT-RADAR-DET...item5184a92b94
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